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Hi gang, thought I would start this thread to eliminate the dashboard posts. Just subscribe to this group and you will get all the updates on entries so you do not miss anything.

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  • Okay, not quite sure what you mean - post discussion here instead of the Group dashboard? Or that Group dashboard posts will be duplicated here? But whatever, I'm in

  • I like here VS the dashboard. Makes it easier to find stuff. Dashboard rolls off too fast.
  • Robin, post discussion in here rather than the dashboard. As Daniela says, dashboard rolls off to fast.
  • Day 5 of Paleo diet. The hardest part is def. no grain part for me. Miss my morning oatmeal!! I love eggs, so I can eat them for breakfast, but I don't think I should eat them every day. What is your favorite thing to eat for breakfast?
  • Well, we have chickens so I have to say I eat a lot of eggs! Typically I'll use breakfast as one of my places to get a ton of vegetables into my day. This morning I cooked up a small zucchini, 1/4 onion, a small red pepper and 10 mushrooms, combined with 4 eggs and made an egg-veggie scramble for hubby and I. Other days I'll mix the eggs with smoked salmon, mushrooms, and spinach, or other combos.

    On days when I have an early morning workout, I make my Coconut-Banana custard: http://ironmom.blogspot.com/2011/04/is-it-breakfast-or-is-it-dessert-banana.html and usually I add chia seeds and sometimes pecans to it. This is a more oatmeal-like dish and packs a ton of energy. I will eat this at 6:00 am, and not have to eat again for 4 - 5 hours, even with a hard workout in there.

     One or two mornings a week, I make paleo-ized pancakes, waffles, or crepes. In any baking, I substitute almond meal, coconut flour, and tapioca starch for any grains in the recipe (in a 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 ratio). I will also usually throw in a couple of extra eggs to bind it together better. I always throw in flax seed meal and chia seeds into my morning pancakes or waffles. Eat them with a mountain of blueberries. Yum!

     Sometimes I'll bake up some paleo-ized muffins: http://ironmom.blogspot.com/2011/03/orange-cranberry-paleo-muffins-recipe.html

     

  • Thank you so much for more ideas, Robin. I actually made your coconut-banana custard, and it was great! The muffins look yummy. Once I can get out of the house if snow stops falling. (did you guys get snow??), I will have to get coconut / hazelnut flour, etc. at Trader Joes, hopefully they carry them. So, sounds like you are not too concerned with lots of eggs... I think I read somewhere, we should limit it to 7 eggs/week. A bit worried about what it does to cholesterol... Happy Monday!
  • Trader Joe's doesn't have any coconut flour, or dried coconut either, and only light coconut milk which I don't like to use. I keep putting it on their requests lists, so hopefully some day they'll have it. They have almond meal but I don't think they have hazelnut meal, at least I haven't seen it. A lot of this stuff you can order on Amazon.com cheaper than you can find it in a grocery store, believe it or not. That's where I get my Chia seeds now.

    As for cholesterol, I never worry about it. More recent studies are showing that elevated cholesterol is actually protective in women and that women with higher cholesterol die less frequently from all causes (other than accidents of course) than women with lower cholesterol. Women in my family have always had high cholesterol. My great-grandma lived to 100 with high cholesterol and my grandma to 93. My parents are in their 70s and very healthy, so I don't worry about it. My cholesterol is actually much lower now that I eat eggs and bacon all the time (173 at last check) than it was when I was a vegan (220), so I don't think that eating more eggs has a negative effect in any way. Plus, our chickens are free-rangers and the eggs are so full of great stuff!

  • I just realized that discussion boards exist for groups! Ha! I had no clue... and I'm an IT guy. image Go figure...

    Robin, btw, I've enjoy reading your blog. I think I ran across it on the interwebs a few months ago. I didn't make the connection till just now that you are the one who puts that out. Good job. It's good reading!



  • I am suffering from the hungries this week. Its coming up to that time of the month. Any ideas ladies on how to get through this time of the month without eating the regular things we crave (chocolate and chips).
  • @Enrique, thanks!! I'm glad you've enjoyed reading. Since joining EN I feel I've been seriously slacking on my blog. Something about all these intense workouts and needing more sleep...

    @Brenda, I wish I had some great advice, however I just had to tough it out last week through constant cravings. It sucked. I am missing my chocolate, and felt like I went through a mini-depression without its mood-lifting properties for those few days. As someone who prides herself on not being addicted to caffeine, carbs, drinking, or other vices, my chocolate addiction is pretty humbling However I did make it through, even though there are a couple of bars of good dark stuff sitting in my cupboard and calling my name... Good luck!

     

     

     

  • I will use you as my weapon when I may be tempted Robin. I will say to myself "if Robin can tough it out so can I" Chica power!!!!
  • I am going through that right now, too. I am eating probably too many grapes... I know they contain one of the highest natural sugar in fruit, but that seems to be helping me... Is it bad??

    I also have another question... I am reading the paleo book for athletes, and was surprised to see grains are allowed after the long-hour trainings. I know many of you are doing the 30 day challenge right now, but do you guys eat grains during IM training?
  • Instead of grains I eat starchy veg like sweet pototoe or squash. No grains for this girl, but that is because I am gluten intolerant. I did use to eat gluten free grains, but have taken those out as well. I just try to focus on eating before, during and after my workouts. Just about half way throught the book you made reference to.
  • Although I'm not eating grains currently, I plan to go back to using rice during IM training. I am finding it's just too hard to get enough carbs in right now during the 30-day challenge. There's a limit to how many yams and bananas and raisins I can eat...

    Plus, one of my best training foods is these rice-egg blocks that I make for long bike rides. But I do not ever plan on eating gluten again. I've eaten it twice in the last year and both times reminded me of why it's a good thing to take out of the diet permanently.

  • Well last night, okay, for days I have been hungry and being very good about not eating anything sweet, but I caved in last night and made some paleo cookies.

    I ate......hold on to your hats......7 friggin cookies. 4 in one sitting followed by a nap and then 3 more in another sitting. I have to say that this is the first morning that I have woken up not hungry or should I say starving. Think I might be under eating. Got to get on that so this type of thing does not happen again.

    These cookies were not low in fat, as they were made with cocounut oil, honey, coconut flour, shredded coconut (can you tell I was craving coconut). I could of eaten the batter and I never like cookie batter. Anyway, I hope I am over that binge and will try to make sure I get more food in during the day.

    Fell better confessing. Sorry Robin that I could not hold out. The Chica power was not with me last night.
  • Did you post your recipe for egg-rice blocks Robin?
  • And.... to make it even worse it was after I had dinner. I made some paleo fish cakes with stir fried veg.
  • Brenda, actually it's probably good for your body that you caved. Sounds like a major carb/fat craving and with all the work we're doing that's not surprising. I have had some major carb cravings lately and it's just not fun. Most of the people on the Paleo lists and blogs are not doing the kind of endurance/sprint/tempo work we're doing here, so it's easier to fuel with strict Paleo. Last year when I was mostly focused on karate and not on triathlon training, my carb needs went *way* down. It was very interesting.

     

    If nothing else, the Whole30 is teaching me that my body needs more carbs than the traditional paleo-ite, which is why I think the Cordain/Friel book is really the one to follow for me in general. I'll hunt around for that rice/egg block recipe. It's on a video with a chef for  Tour de France cycling team.

  • Dang, I can't find the video anywhere. Basically it was done by the chef for one of the Tour de France teams. You cook up a batch of rice, then mix in some scrambled eggs and parmesan cheese (which he says is the most easily digested cheese). Press it into a pan and cool it in the fridge. Then you can cut it into cubes and wrap them in tinfoil. The guys on the cycling team eat these on the bike.

    The nice thing about these is that you can make them either sweet (with maple syrup or honey, cinnamon, etc.) or savory, with little bits of bacon or cheese. I like packing some savory ones along for long rides, because after awhile you get really tired of sweet stuff.

  • Hi, Catching up on the posts. Yasko, last year when I was training for IM I did eat grains (bagels and other bread) a lot after hard workouts. I'm not intolerant and frankly the smell and taste of toasted bagels was awesome after a long run or ride. This year though I am going to try to use sweet potatoes more than grains. So far so good.

    I will probably also go back to using the post workout shake after my 30 day challenge is done. I think it's a better way to get the carb/proteins in easily digested form into my system as opposed to sweet potatoes and meat which is what I've been doing. I haven't noticed any detriment doing this for now, but I've also not been working out more than 75 minutes at a time. I think I want to go with the shake as my volume increases later on.

    Brenda, I can't say that I feel hungry much, except when I go a couple of hours without anything. I have to eat every couple hours or else I do feel it. And then my mood suffers. So I'm always carrying something to eat whether it's nuts or fruit or whatever.

    6 more days of my 30 day challenge. I'll weigh myself after and see if there was any change. My wife is doing this too. She was not supposed to weigh herself yet, but she caved in and stepped on the scale. She lost 5 pounds in 3 weeks. Not bad. Hopefully, she'll stay on the Paleo diet. This was a new thing for her and I think she likes it.


  • Thanks for making me feel better Robin. I think you are right. I will up my veggie consumption, especially my root veggies and see if that helps.

    I like the recipe you posted above.
  • So I finished the Whole 30 challenge. It wasn't perfect though. I must admit that I had 4 or 5 meals where I ate non Paleo, but all in all it was great! I lost a few pounds and rebooted my eating habits. Then today to celebrate I had a bacon cheesburger! Ha! Can't wait to have an IPA!
  • WTG on the Whole30, Enjoy your IPA Enrique!

    I finished the Whole30 too, and it served as a good reboot after the holidays, although this year I really didn't eat a ton of bad stuff over the holidays anyways! For me it also confirmed that strict Paleo does not necessarily work better for me when I'm training hard. I found it a struggle to get enough carbs, and it didn't seem to me that eliminating the smallish amount of raw goat's milk I normally drink had any positive effect. So I think that I'm edging toward a sort of Primal Blueprint approach: still focusing on meat, nuts, seeds, veggies, and fruits, but with some raw milk products added in and some safer starches (rice, potatoes) when I feel like I need them. 

  • Robin,
    I'm with you on the compliance to being 100% Paleo. Last year I was probably 90% Paleo and felt great. However, unlike you, I really let myself go in December and just enjoyed all the desserts and food so this 30 day reboot got me back on track.

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