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How Big of a hole did you dig for yourself?

pgiesinpgiesin
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Hey gang! Great week of riding. Started looking at my numbers to see how big of a hole I put myself in.

  • Monday (5/16): 4:30 hrs, 3950 ft,  373 TSS, .911 IF, NP 189
  • Tuesday (5/17): 3:45 hrs, 1800 ft, 252 TSS, .83 IF, NP 172
  • Wednesday (5/18): 6:25 hrs, 7500 ft, 159 TSS, .83 IF, NP 172 -- Lost PT during the majority of ride
  • Thursday (5/19) : 6 hours, 7600 ft, 433 TSS, .85 IF, NP 178 -- Lost Garmin for last 10 miles
  • Friday (5/20): 1:30 hours, 1400 ft, 157 TSS, 1.03 IF, NP 214
  • Saturday (5/12): 3:30 hours, 5500 ft, 282 TSS, .91 IF, NP 189

So I currentlty have a CTL of 80.6 and a TSB of -90.6. I think that is a pretty deep hole!

Comments

  • Coach PatrickCoach Patrick
    @Peter, that's pretty epic!! I haven't downloaded my stuff but I can tell by how I feel that I am in a pretty dark place! image Enjoy some recovery!
  • Coach RichCoach Rich
    Absolutely nothing wring with taking 1-3 days completely off, maybe easy swimming if you like. In my experience you'll feel about 85% by Thursday and still a little flat by Saturday. Your goal should be to get back on the training plan by Saturday...but expect to still feel flat.
  • Nemo BrauchNemo Brauch

    I downloaded the data last night and came in at approx -80 TSB and that doesn't include the Solvang ride where I rode without the Joule. Totally took yesterday off and will take today off as well. Might swim tomorrow- the ocean is actually looking pretty friendly. My hips hurt- every trip up the stairs is a reminder of the work we did last week.



    PS- Peter, IF=1.03 for 1:30 on Stage 6 and .9 IF for 3:30 on Stage 7? Dude, you are seriously due for an uptick in the FTP.

  • Tom GlynnTom Glynn
    @Nemo,

    love to hear about the Solvang ride. Wasn't that where they let you ride the TT course before the pros? If so, did you try and TT it or just ride it. IF TT, how did you stack up against the pros????
  • tgarsontgarson
    I was reading some of the daily recaps on twitter and generally in awe of some of the numbers you guys were putting me up. Sure gave me a lot less to complain about when I was dipping into the -40's TSB last week.

    Not that it at all diminishes your guys accomplishment, but I'd agree with Nemo that it sounds like you are def. due for a pretty decent FTP bump. -90 TSB and some of the TSS should basically leave you unable to stand if the thresholds were 100% dialed in. That's pretty much the same with my TSB from last week, soon as I hit my scheduled test and bumped my thresholds the numbers started coming back in line... BUT you guys are still beasts for getting all of those crazy rides in, major kudos.
  • CNIDogCNIDog
    "and some of the TSS should basically leave you unable to stand". Yup, that statement pretty much summed up the feeling Saturday afternoon and Sunday when I got home. At one point I fell walking up a few steps in the garage as the legs almost didn't want to support me. Thinking back, it's pretty crazy and very cool how much work we were able to get in on what going into the week seemed like insufficient preparation. Never believed I'd be throwing down 50+ mile rides, 70+ mile rides with a 100+ ride thrown in (because I couldn't keep my big mouth shut) and all that climbing on a previous longest ride of 56 miles and 20 weeks of O/S plan volume. Interesting observation is that it seemed our fitness seemed to improve over the week despite the adding / cummulative fatigue. Either that or the legs were too numb to realize that they hurt.

    Peter, seriously due for a big bump in FTP as you were riding strong and seemed to continue to ride stronger as the week progressed. Can't wait to see what you do in CDA.

    I'll admit my FTP not totally dialed in with the powertap and outdoors on the road bike as I haven't done an outdoor test and my numbers were all based on the Computrainer. Call my TSB -71, Call it -50. Bottom line the legs were, and are, like marshmallows, puffy feeling, tired, lacking snap. Loved and loving every minute of it and patiently waiting for the recovery so that I can take the bump in fitness out for a spin in my HIM in 4 weeks.
  • Nemo BrauchNemo Brauch
    Posted By Tom Glynn on 24 May 2011 02:55 AM

    @Nemo,



    love to hear about the Solvang ride. Wasn't that where they let you ride the TT course before the pros? If so, did you try and TT it or just ride it. IF TT, how did you stack up against the pros????





     

    Yes and NOOOOOOOOO!  Yes- we rode the TT course before the pros.  Beautiful course with a few evil little hills mixed in (and one downhill turn where I really wouldn't want to be TTing on my TT bike). 

    But HELL NO!  I did not go out a TT effort!  In fact, the goal and agreement Michele and I had for that ride was "don't break a sweat".  It was absolutely a much needed recovery day for me just before the big final day.  I don't know how the Pro's go from an all out TT effort on one day to Mt Baldy the next.  Insane!

  • KitbooKitboo
    Gosh, we sure did quite a bit of riding last week, eh? My Ergomo stopped working 90 minutes into the first day so I rode the rest of the week old school----no PM, no bike computer, no HRM...just a watch. Thanks for putting all the data together---gives me an idea of why I feel like a$$ but with quantitative data. image
  • Scott AlexanderScott Alexander
    Posted By Kitima Boonvisudhi on 24 May 2011 10:56 AM

    My Ergomo stopped working 90 minutes into the first day so I rode the rest of the week old school----no PM, no bike computer, no HRM...just a watch.

    Ruh roh! No bueno! I just ordered a new PM, Quarq w/ Joule because I'm afraid of this exact same thing!

  • Coach RichCoach Rich

    I absolutely got stronger as the week went on. My TT with Marc up GMR was my best of the season (2:30 faster than a nearly-TT effort with Sawiris the week before the Tour), and I was throwing up some big numbers on Sunday as well.

    No mojo this morning, however. That is, my first repeat was pretty decent, better than the week before the Tour, but Rich kept me waiting at the shitter at the top for about 5' before I went down...waited some more, started to go up again, wasn't into it and flipped it. Just sent him a text to see if he's still up there...

    Big week, weekend coming up for me and I've hooked up a 7-10 day camp in June Lake, CA for July 4th weekend and the following week. I'll likely do another similar 7-10 day camp, ending 3-4wks before IMWI. I was encouraged by the fitness bump I feel I got and want to repeat that a couple times before the race.

  • Nemo BrauchNemo Brauch
    And how about the other question: How much weight did you all gain? :-) Joe says he gained a pound. I haven't stepped on the scale yet- I'm afraid.
  • Coach RichCoach Rich

    I felt, and looked, like I definitely lost some weight but the scale says otherwise. Sigh...

    LoseIt says I'll be at 152lb by July 30, a full 5-6wks ahead of IMWI. Might be able to chip away at that to see 149lb.

  • CNIDogCNIDog
    Lost 3 lbs!

    Need to stop eating like I'm riding 3-6h a day or else that's quickly going back on. Just wish I had lost it before going out there and dragging it up all those KOM's.
  • Marc RobardsMarc Robards
    I gained right around a pound, but I'm telling myself that I must have replaced some fat with muscle...hopefully image

    Just wait till next year when I'm going to swallow a tapeworm and show up at 110 pounds....GMR will be mine!
  • pgiesinpgiesin

    You all are going to hate me but I lost 5 pounds. I probably gained a couple of them back over the past few days with nothing to do but eat. Back at it today so hopefully that will curtail the uncontrollable eating .

     

  • Nemo BrauchNemo Brauch
    Well I stepped on the scale this morning per my normal Wednesday ritual and was happy to see no change. Whew!!! Unlike some of you though- I was very happy to get home and back to my normal diet. Ahhhhh, fruit and vegis, how I missed you!
  • Nemo BrauchNemo Brauch
    Oh- and yes, I hate you for that Peter!
  • Coach RichCoach Rich

    Got on the scale today at 164.3lb, 2lb less than yesterday. I think my body is/was adjusting glycogen or whatever. 500cals under budget in LoseIt last night (set to lose 1.5lb per week) and went to bed full.

  • KitbooKitboo
    I too felt stronger as the week progressed. Rich, you are right: This trip is a lot more fun with more fitness and less weight.

    I've lost 2 pounds and hope to continue that trend. Hilly mtb races on the horizon so I need to have less of a carcass to haul up those climbs.

    @Scott: Big bummer about the Ergomo. I think the computer just needs a change of battery. Though I'm so very attached to Ergomo, I'm going to get a new bottom bracket for the road bike and put the Quarq from the tri bike on it. *sniff!*
  • Coach RichCoach Rich
    Posted By Kitima Boonvisudhi on 25 May 2011 11:55 AM

    I too felt stronger as the week progressed. Rich, you are right: This trip is a lot more fun with more fitness and less weight.





     

    Indeed. I've done Sierra Rd, Naciemento-Furgesson, GMR, Mt. Baldy, etc all in various conbinations of fitness and fatness. Fit and light is MUCH more enjoyable

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