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Scarty25Scarty25
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I'm not really sure if I should be posting this or even if I'm posting it in the right spot, since I'm a newbie.  But I just signed up for Endurance Nation, although I have been stalking them for years.  However, I previously had this race on my calender and even though EN doesn't suggest doing a marathon before an IM,  the marathon already had my money.  So I decided I was going to use this a confidence boosting race before I started the real traning with EN. 

Anyway, I was thinking that since I'm in such better shape than my last marathon, I should be able to at least beat that time.  Long story short, my pride led me to believe I was a lot faster than I really was (at least for a whole marathon).  So i had an epic collapse, which I pasted my mile splits below to show. 

 

1 7:22  
2 7:04  
3 7:11  
4 6:51  
5 6:47  
6 6:52  
7 6:36  
8 7:43  
9 6:40  
10 6:52  
11 6:48  
12 7:00  
13 6:29  
14 8:40  
15 7:02  
16 7:13  
17 7:38  
18 7:52  
19 8:05  
20 8:24  
21 11:16  
22 9:20  
23 10:22  
24 11:15  
25 10:05  
26 9:39  
27 9:52

I'm excited to work with this group and help me put all of the pieces together, so that when I do IM Wisconsin next year, I won't have to suffer through this again! 

 

Scott

Comments

  • Al TruscottAl Truscott

    Scott - you've just learned the most important principle EN has to teach in regards to race execution. Remember this day next summer when it comes time to do your race rehearsals for IM Moo, and you start getting serious about applying pacing principles to the 112/26.2 miles. Now you know what happens when you don't do it right.

  • Bruce ThompsonBruce Thompson

    Scott - 2x what Al said.  Pacing is so important in an IM.  As Al once told me, "we run our fastest at the end of the race, not at the start".  You will pass so many people the last 6 miles of the IM run if you manage the pace properly for the first 134 miles.  Now I don't mean go slow, I just mean manage your resources so you can be your strongest when others are slowing down. Based on the mile splits you were running the first 15 miles of Detroit, you clearly have speed.  Now you just need to learn when to unleash it in an IM.

  • Coach PatrickCoach Patrick
    One thing I notice is just how VARIABLE your pacing is....multiple swings from mid-6s to 8:00/mile, etc....all that is very costly to your body. If you don't already have a GPS, you'll want to get one and work on running a steady pace and "calibrating" your internal pace clock!
  • MattAaronsonMattAaronson
    Posted By Patrick McCrann on 24 Oct 2012 10:05 AM

    One thing I notice is just how VARIABLE your pacing is....multiple swings from mid-6s to 8:00/mile, etc....all that is very costly to your body. If you don't already have a GPS, you'll want to get one and work on running a steady pace and "calibrating" your internal pace clock!



     

    I had the same observation. I thought maybe the course is really hilly or something like that.

    In any case welcome to EN and by the end you your first EN season Im sure you'll approach races differently than ever before!

  • cgres123cgres123
    Welcome !

    As you learn here in house we use the Vdot method that shows what pacing we can expect during a race. You will start out testing with a 5k run at a place where you can replicate the same course for future testing.

    Will then go here http://www.attackpoint.org/trainingpaces.jsp?eqdist=1500&vdot=36.47 to plug your numbers in.

    This will give you the opportunity to see where you are really at as far as your ability is to race the marathon, half, 10k etc,

    There are of course deductions to your owned Vdot number, as you can't expect to race a marathon at a 5 k pace.
    Go to the wiki read about these things and the fueling you will need to have a good season coming up.

    D
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