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Off season weight loss question

So I began my weight loss program using the LoseIt app on the droid.  I started at 168# an am 5'9" with an approximate BF 12-13% depending on how accurate my scale is.  Per the app, I am supposed to consume 2100 calories/day in order to lose .5 lbs/week.  I have found that by tracking my intake, I am usually under the recommended daily caloric intake by an average of 200-400 calories/day (still taking approximately 2100-2400 cals/day).  This is mainly because I have been eating healthier (okay my wife cooks healthy). Thus far I have lost approximatly 2-2.4 lbs depending on the day as opposed to the 4-4.5 lbs as suggested by my caloric intake.  I have been careful and have maintained an approximate protein intake of 1.4-1.5 g/kg.  I am definitely leaner as my pants already are a bit looser.   My question for those who have been successful with weight loss is this: 

1.  Am I not losing the weight because I am taking too few calories?  It's not as though I am below 1500 calories.  I am having a hard time taking in extra calories to get to where I need. I am rarely hungry b/t my major meals of the day.

2.  Is my decreased rate of weight loss d/t sodium (which is approx 3-3.7 g/day)?

3.  Any other thoughts?

After I lost my first 2 lbs w/o really trying, I thought that this would be the easiest thing in the world.  Unfortunately it does not appear to be as easy.  My goal is to get to 150-154 lbs.

 

thx in advance.

Comments

  • Does your scale have estimates of your hydration and your muscle mass amount/percentage? Maybe you're seeing a combination of weight loss and a 'remodeling' effect on your musculature. Anyway, congrats on the good start.
  • Thanks.  That's a great thought.  It does have those figures but I never thought much about them.   Always thought it was cool that my metabolic age is that of a teenager so I never really looked past that number. 

  • Ha ha ha! I don't know about my metabolic age but I know I usually ACT like a teenager.
  •  In my experience,

    • You should be looking at the mirror as well as the scale. We, athletes, lose weight differently than civilans -- often cut fat while gaining muscle, with wide swings in hydration/glycogen state creating wide swings in weight, or changes in body composition not really reflected in weight loss.
    • The BF % function of scales are pretty much worthless for us, as they are sensitive to hydration state and ours are changing so much from day to day.
    • What's your time frame for losing this weight? Losing weight slowly is better than doing it quickly. After having used LoseIt! off and on for a couple years, I HIGHLY recommend that you set it for 1lb/wk and then just patient. Good that you're having these conversations now and creating these habits now vs much closer to your race season. In short, a weight loss of more than 1lb / week is very tough to do an often unsustainable for endurance athletes. I know that whenever I've fired up a new week on Monday with it set to 2lb/wk, I start to bonk and Riley looks like a pork chop by about Wednesday. Just sayin' 
  • I am with coach Rich on this. Stay the plan, and maybe bring it up to 1 lb a week in stead of .5
    Every time I get off the wagon for a while and get back on, I find the first 25% of the weight comes off quick...the other 75% takes work and time. Keep at it and you will get there!
  • i had it set to .5 lb per week but will increase it to 1 wk.  I will stay the course and continue to watch what I take in.

    thx.

  •  Hi Kar. Congrats on the weight loss already and def Coach Rich is right, slow and steady wins the race. Lose It is a great program but you weight might still fluctuate so don't get discouraged. How many cals are you burning through exercise? Make sure you are accounting for that, too. Def try the 1 lb per week and see how it goes!

  • Maybe this is a silly question, but are you measuring your intake really, REALLY accurately? Invest in a food scale and measure things for a few weeks to make sure you're eating the same portions that you're recording. For me that was a huge eye-opener...man, 3oz of meat isn't much!!!!

    Regarding weighing, if you do it at the same time every day after you wake up (experts say a couple hours after...for practical reasons I use the scale right when I wake up) then hydration state shouldn't fluctuate as widely compared with if you are inconsistent about weighing timing relative to workouts, meals, etc, etc. Of course daily fluctuations are very normal (I am 138-140 but sometimes as low as 136 or as high as 144).
  • Also, if you are using the Loseit app's estimation of calories burned during exercise, don't. I think it tends to overestimate calories burned for most things.
    X2 regarding measuring and weighing food. I dropped 12 pounds this year, and I swear a large part of that was due to just realizing how small a tablespoon of peanut butter really is, and not eating M&M's right out of the bag.
  •  Yes x 3 what Matt and Sarah said! And Matt, I am so glad that someone else sees fluctuations too. Sarah, I admit, I like your idea of eating M n Ms right out of the bag lol! Counting them and putting them in a bowl makes me sad  Lol 

  • Don't expect to lose the weight on schedule every week.  If you start at X and are doing the LoseIt! plan to lose Y lbs/week, you may not see an exact loss of Y every week.  I can get a weekly fluctuation of up to 5-7 lbs depending on when I weigh myself.  For example, on Monday, I weighed myself in the evening, after dinner and drinking several glasses of water at 178 lbs (which seemed a little heavy for me).  2 days later, I weighed myself in the morning after just getting up at 173 lbs, and the day after that, I weighed myself in the morning right after a workout at 171.  This morning, I was at 174 lbs after just getting up.  Based on those wiegh-ins, I'd estimate I'm around 173-174 lbs.  The important thing is the trend.  As long as it's generally downward (if that's what you're aiming for), you're doing it right.

    LoseIt! seems to estimate calories burned a little high, as noted by others.  If I workout on a particular day (which is pretty much every day), I generally try to consume about 100-200 calories less than the target set by LoseIt to compensate for that after factoring in the "calories burned" for the exercise.  So, if my Net Calories is set by LoseIt! to be 2100, I'll want to come in between 1900 and 2000 for the day.  I think if you do that, you're close enough.

  • That's good to know about the fluctuation that everyone else has had. I weigh in am and use my Garmin to tell me how many calories I burned. Although I don't weigh my food I suspect that is probably where I am underestimating. Thx for the advice.
  • My tools and routine:

    • Wake up 0600 to whining dog(s) that want to get fed, feed dogs, coffee
    • More coffee
    • Drop the kids off at the pool
    • Weigh myself nekkid. 
    • Subtract 1lb for the coffee. I do this math exercise every day so it's consistent and subtract 1 from the number on the scale makes me feel a little better about the number. 
    • Walk dogs. 
    • AM run. I'm fine running on an empty stomach. If I feel it might be an issues I'll have an apple or other fruit first
    • I run with a Garmin 305 with my weight entered. I just use the calories burned number as my number.
    • The rest of the day I weigh and log my food. I have a digital food scale and a one cup measuring dealio. I sometimes add ~10% to the calorie number, just as SWAG. 
    • For the bike I ride with a Garmin 500 and enter KJ as calories burned.  
  • Posted By Rich Strauss on 26 Oct 2012 10:55 AM
    • The rest of the day I weigh and log my food. I have a digital food scale and a one cup measuring dealio. I sometimes add ~10% to the calorie number, just as SWAG. 

    Adding 10% is a good idea. It is probably right omre often than not. If I eat at a restaurant I add 1-2 TB of butter and/or olive oil and additional salt IN ADDITION to whatver I have estimated I ate. It is very easy to undercount calories.

    As for the burn, I use whatever Garmin tells me, which has as input my HR, age, height, weight, etc, etc. The burn estimates based solely on activity type and duration are much, much higher than what the Garmin estimates.

  • 6:00 am?  You like to sleep in, Slacker!!!! 

    I usually subtract 40-60 from KJ on the bike to get my calories burned.  They are roughly equal, but I recall reading an article with some mathematical formula involving the work measured vs. calories burned, which suggested that for a fairly wide range of times spent riding, you could subtract 40-60 and be fairly close.  (60 for longer rides, 40 for shorter).

  • I have also been wondering what is the best way to accurately measure the exact number of calories burned. I work for a company that is developing a new product which also includes measuring calories burned, but it is obvious this is highly depending on the algorythm and the inputs used for the algorythm. Example, one can calculate calories burned based on an algorythm derived from heart rate and weight like a garmin in running mode. Or one can do it from skin response and temperature like a Bodymedia Fit. Or even speed

    Result is that the data is highly variable, and there simply is no way to know over the short term what the true calorie consumption is.
  •  This is great stuff...as I have been doing much of the same.....(ie. have the goal set at .5, count cals...but don't weigh food so I know the serving size is a shwag...though my thing is to accept that I'm off and try to stay below the cal goal by 10%...I suppose thats the same as Rich "addding 10%"....I do need to weigh my foods at least for a while so I have some "common sense" feel for portion sizes....FRANKLY I"M AFRAID TO KNOW HOW MANY TABLESPOONS ARE IN THE 2 TABLESPOON SERVING OF PEANUT BUTTER I ACCOUNT FOR ON MY MORNING BAGEL....so have avoided this thus far.

    I use Livestrong....but may start to use the garmin/training peaks calorie burn figures.

     

    Cheers.

  • Great thread. So far, I've always gone by 'feel' only regarding eating and weight management, but I just signed up for LoseIt, so let's see if that gets rid of those last 5 pounds... The one thing I struggle w/ are things that aren't easily categorized. E.g., I eat a giant mixed salad every day. I have no idea if it's 500 cals or closer to 1000. I tend to estimate high just to be safe, but it's tough to judge...
  • The estimate for how much you need to eat in LoseIt is just that - a guess. It is based on age, gender, height, and weight. If you really want to know, find a place you can get it measured. Where I work we can measure cals/hour on the bike and run at different speeds, HR, and watts using a metabolic cart.

    As others have said, most people fluctuate from one day to the next. Look at the general trend. Personally, if I eat a lot of salty things one day I can be up 2 - 5 pounds the next and can't get my rings off.
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