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JOS Week 11 Bike

Four weeks to go, folks!

We've got three very hard weeks left, then week 14 backs off a little, has a bike test, and a suggested running race at the end.  Time for everyone to figure out where you are mentally and physically, and do what you need to in order to get the best work in for these last few weeks.

As always, better to back off a couple of days than it is to drive yourself into a hole.  But if you're ready, these last hard weeks are also great mental training.  Tough stuff.

On the bike, Week 11 looks a lot like Week 10, with a couple of increments (quoting advanced plan)

  • Tuesday is 12'(4'), 20'(4') 12' at FTP/Z4.  You can make that last one 13' if you want to match last week's total!   Brick run.
  • Thursday is 15 x 1'(1') at 120%/Z5 in three groups of 5.  For those on the 110% plan, it's still 4 x 5'
  • Saturday is 90' with 2 x 20'(4') at FTP/Z4 with another 12' just for fun.  Finish it up with a quick Z2/Z3 brick or longer run another time.

Have a great week!

 

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  • Back on the horse after wife and I being sick Friday and Saturday. Figure that was rest enough so I'm going to do Sunday's long run today then back to the schedule on Tuesday.
  • I am power testing Tuesday so that I have numbers for my new power meter, and then Thursday will attempt to do my on/off's outside in Sunny South Florida! This weekend's ride will be outside as well.

    Looking forward to sunshine training.
  • Been offline for a while (work, vacation, then catch up when I returned to work!) but I'm pleased to say I have been getting my work outs in. Just not been posting them. Something had to give. Anyway work is not quite so crazy so here are my numbers from this morning;

    10'(4') @z4 – NP: 204 (IF 1.02), VI 1.00
    18'(4') @z4 – NP: 204 (IF 1.03), VI 1.00
    10' (4')@z4 - NP: 203(IF 1.01), VI 0.99

    Good start to the week!
  • I've been struggling to hit my FTP numbers since re-testing. Not sure if it's mental or I'm beat to hell. Probably a little bit of both I'm guessing. Got the workout done this morning, but hovered around .90, .92, and .94 IF. Did an easy 5 afterwards.

    Next week will be my last week, and then I'll transition to the Full plan for CdA. Tired, but I feel ready to start stretching it out.
  • Pretty good bike this morning, despite an unplanned "rest" half-way through. About 30 seconds to go on the 18' FTP interval (intermediate plan), my tire blew out. Never happened on the trainer before. I guess I should ride harder. Happy that I remembered in my blissful FTP-state how to change it. Got back on and finished things up. Total of 80' @ 0.88 with 10' @ 1.00, 18' @ 0.97 and 10' @ 1.02. Only managed a 10' transition run due to the tire blow-out. Not too bummed - it was cold, windy & nasty outside.
  • Knocked out today's WKO @ 5:45 AM GMT + 1 (in Deutschland). Rocked  1 X 15', 2 X 10' done at .97, .97, and .95 IFs.   Followed up with a 15 minute brick.  Able to hang on much better and stay in aero bars much longer with new FTP.  After reading posts from you all, successfully implemented today's workout utilizing info discussed specifically by Carl N. (swapping order of reps for mental edge) and Rich/others about ideal cadence.  Truth be told, I could sit all day and read posts and just soak up all that info.  Thanks you guys!  My basement is officially an EN Pain Cave

    Have a great day!

    Tony

     

  • Well one of my local training partners is on his way over and we are swapping Tuesday and Saturdays rides. I might cry cause yesterday we lifted legs a little harder then usual vs swimming!!! We are going a total of 2 hours also.

    I went and rented Premium Rush so hoping it is good. I am going to do what I usually do and turn the intensity down on TR to .93 and shoot for the moon hoping for a .95 or better. I have to start later all this week d/t moonlighting in the Pediatric Emergency Room all week.

    Fingers Crossed and please send a few good vibes my way image>>>>>BOOM

  • Posted By Tony Caparoso on 19 Mar 2013 11:11 AM

    Knocked out today's WKO @ 5:45 AM GMT + 1 (in Deutschland). Rocked  1 X 15', 2 X 10' done at .97, .97, and .95 IFs.   Followed up with a 15 minute brick.  Able to hang on much better and stay in aero bars much longer with new FTP.  After reading posts from you all, successfully implemented today's workout utilizing info discussed specifically by Carl N. (swapping order of reps for mental edge) and Rich/others about ideal cadence.  Truth be told, I could sit all day and read posts and just soak up all that info.  Thanks you guys!  My basement is officially an EN Pain Cave

    Have a great day!

    Tony

    Tony-

    It truly is sooooooo much mental and once you find a way to break through the mental anguish/pain then you have WON!!!!  Very nice work on hitting on your sets.  

     


  • Ripped my brick off this morning at 6am. Hit all targets. Went to work, trained a client, did some weights, trained another client and then hit the pool for some drills. Chillaxing now.
  • OOOOF! Feelin' the pain after a nice run focus week in FLA. Still trying to wrap my legs around that new FTP. 

    Did 10'-18'-10' @ .99, .95, and .95 respectively. That last one I had to break into two 5's with a 30 sec break as my HR was waaaay too high. Bed early tonight as I still need to recover on the sleep front. That which does not kill - makes you STRONGER!!

  • Seems like everyone is getting used to the new FTP.... Not always fun, but we're gettin it done. (Hey, maybe that should be the new JOS slogan!)

    FINALLY hit all bike targets post-FTP bump! Woooohhooo! Had planned on doing 18', 10', 10' but since TR is 10-18-10, I did it that way.

    10' @ .976IF, 18'@ .955IF, 10'@ .955 IF. Nice change from previous bike WKOs where I'd be OK ont he first interval then struggle to stay aove .90IF for the balance. Even threw in a few minutes in Z3 to round it out to 15miles.

    2.5 miles on the TM in about 30mins. Just short of Z1 but not too shabby.

    I worked from home today so I was able to start my WKO at 5:30 instead of the usual 6:30-6:45. Makes a big difference. I hate not being able to relax until like 8:30... Hang out with the wife for an hour and half then to bed is lame! *rambling over*
  • Now that was a good ride!  Much, much better than this weekend's slog-fest.  Up at 5:00, on the bike by 5:45....

    • 12': NP 270 / AP 271, 1.006 IF
    • 20': NP 275 / AP 276, 1.028 IF
    • 13': NP 272 / AP 274, 1.015 IF
    • Total: 1:27, 0.915IF, TSS 120.8.

    I wasn't expecting it to go this well.  One change I made from last week was that I listened to my 'Threshold Test' playlist once I started the 20min interval.

  • Great workout. I am not a fan of doing them late afternoon. Those that know me know I am on the bike often by 0330-0400 but moonlighting in the Pediatric ER all week. Anyway I switched Tuesday and Saturdays workouts around. Today was a 20x2 then 12x1 and we then did another 30 minutes after and a 40 minute run. Loved it.......



    Workout 1


    FTP's....20 min@1.008, 20 min@.996, and 12 min@1.02 

     





    Entire workout : RIDE #1

    Duration: 1:30:08

    Work: 1307 kJ


    TSS: 130.8 (intensity factor 0.938)

    Norm Power: 250


    VI: 1.04

    Distance: 28.614 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 397 240 watts

    Cadence: 30 115 75 rpm

    Speed: 0 22.2 18.9 mph



    Workout #2

    Entire workout:

    Duration: 30:25

    Work: 390 kJ


    TSS: 33.5 (intensity factor 0.818)

    Norm Power: 218


    VI: 1.02

    Distance: 9.183 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 531 214 watts

    Cadence: 40 114 83 rpm

    Speed: 0 25.8 18.1 mph 

    Then did the 40 min EP race.....so glad this is over!!!!  BOOM



  • Joe- Nice! Never underestimate the power of good tunes!

    One thing i remember from week 5 is that is when I started to feel like I was getting stronger, so I'm thinking since I just finished week 10, that's another bump I'm feeling. WHo knows? But whatever works, right?
  • well that was fun. I actually liked the 10 / 18 / 10. Sort of a warmup to the real deal and then see what you got left.

    Managed IFs of .994 / .994 / .999 for all 3. Then grabbed the flashlight and did a 25 min brick run. Left hip not happy on run. Seeing chiro Wed am - we'll see what he's got to say about it.

    2nd bike wko w/new Adamo Prologue seat - so far so good.
  • I had a good workout too. Bit of a redemption over last Saturday's mental wimpoutfest.

    The ride is really boring to look at. But that's good. :-) http://connect.garmin.com/activity/286562963

    Got in a little high cadence work in the warmup before my usual indoor mashing.

    12/20/12 as 248W, 249W, 247W on a 248 FTP.

    Overal 0.92 IF for 73 min. Very happy with this today.

    Knocked out a quick brick run then had to run off to a meeting!
  • Long weekday workout that started at 7:15pm…yikes! And my buddy Andrew was right on my heels for the whole run. The bike started out tough, I think mostly because I thought 12' @z4 would be a piece of cake after the weekend's 2x20'+10' and so I came out of the gate a little hot on the power. But I dialed back a bit and actually by the end I wasn't feeling too bad.



    The run was my first run since Saturday's half marathon and I was not running my best for sure. I was about 20 sec/mile off my normal pace for a brick run and my cadence was ~2-3 spm lower than usual. My right hamstring was a bit tight too so I elected to call it a day after 25' of the 30' scheduled.



    Bike – overall 80', NP 230, IF 0.905. Full warmup of 10' easy/z1 then 3x3'(1')@z3. Then the main set:



    12'(4') @z4 – NP: 258 (IF 1.015), VI 1.00, HR 157/167, cad 90

    20'(4') @z4 – NP: 254 (IF 1.000), VI 1.00, HR 164/174, cad 90

    12'(2') @z4 – NP: 254 (IF 1.001), VI 1.00, HR 165/172, cad 91

    -------

    4' @z3 – NP: 223 (IF 0.879), VI 1.00, HR 151/160, cad 87



    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/286584197



    Run – overall 3.59 miles in 25:09, avg 7:01/mile:



    Split........Distance........Avg Pace



    1........0.50........7:14

    2........0.49........7:08

    3........0.52........6:57

    4........0.75........6:53

    5........0.74........6:58

    6........0.59........6:58



    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/286584257
  • Did the who early before work this AM-struggling to get back to IF 1.0 at my new shiny FTP:
    10'/18'/10' at: .96, .94, .96. Only had time for 2 min cool down and ran into the shower still huffing and puffing.
    I found out the third interval that it was easier at a lower cadence so will be putting that knowledge to use on saturday's effort
  • I figured I change it up a little bit since I've been doing the 3x (5 x 1/1). One of my favorite workouts is the 6x5' (5'). I started 110% and went up to 115% (275, 276, 278, 279, 282, 290). Set new personal bests for 2 and 5 minutes.


  • Great job everyone. I see lots of solid hard work. WOW!! Thanks for posting as it is very motivating to dig deep. My usual Wednesday crew had to cancel and forecast was rain so I went to my friend Kim's garage( a sometimes Wed crew rider) and we busted it out. SO MUCH BETTER WITH A FRIEND!!!



    warmed up 20 min- came in at .74

    12' @ .97

    20' @ .97

    12" @ .97



    1:16 in .88



    HOLY CONSISTENT. The numbers jump all around as I ride then I download it and they are all 186W. MY FT is 191. I am very pleased with the workout.



    We then ran easy for 28 minutes in her freakishly hilly neighborhood.



    It ended up never raining- go figure.



    Then I went straight to my friends house who lost her husband Monday and hung out with her for 3 hours. I have Friday off this week too so she and I and her 16 year old son have planned to go Mountain biking. GREAT THERAPY. Steve will go with me but hang with the younger son and play video games. Doing all we can to love on this family. I rarely mountain bike so this is more of a lesson from the expert( my friend) to me and her son. We can manage but it is not pretty. My friend on the other hand is an elite mountain biker. Tiny and fast as heck up the climbs and bombs down anything. No fear.
  • Did not like the 1/1 workouts today. Found them very hard. Tired heavy legs. Got them done but boy was I struggling. Decided on 2 boiled eggs for breakfast figured legs needed the protein :-)
  • Well I also changed it up as usual. I did the ride called revolver again out of Trainer Road but turned down the intensity so my minutes on were at 1.21% of my current FTP. DAMN did they hurt today but all parameters were nailed!!!! What I like about this ride is there is no two min break between sets it just pushes you to your breaking point. Afterwards we rode another ride out of trainer road and it was another fun one. One more left for tonight but will wait and post after its done.



    Goal for 1.20% is 320.....Went: 320,330,320,321,323,327,325,331,334,333,320,327,328,321,321,327 

    Entire workout :

    Duration: 47:56 

    Work: 646 kJ

    TSS: 70.5 (intensity factor 0.944)

    Norm Power: 252


    VI: 1.12

    Distance: 14.741 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 399 225 watts

    Cadence: 44 110 77 rpm

    Speed: 0 22.4 18.4 mph





    Ride #2



    Ride #2

    Entire workout:

    Duration: 1:00:25 

    Work: 767 kJ

    TSS: 68.6 (intensity factor 0.829)

    Norm Power: 221


    VI: 1.05

    Distance: 18.211 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 334 212 watts

    Cadence: 30 107 84 rpm

    Speed: 0 20.7 18.0 mph

    Bike #3

    Duration: 58:51

    Work: 794 kJ

    TSS: 72.1 (intensity factor 0.861)

    Norm Power: 230


    VI: 1.02

    Distance: 18.158 mi

    Min Max Avg

    Power: 0 402 225 watts

    Cadence: 32 125 84 rpm

    Speed: 0 23 18.5 mph

    Totals for today:

    Todays #'s


    Total of 51.20 miles in 2:47, burned 2800 cals, Overall IF .935, TSS 244, NP 234, ave cad 81, and ave watts/kg 3.24, ave speed 18.42.......thats a boom!!!

  • Hacked V02 workout was good today. Hard, but manageable. I followed it up with 45min in the pool of drills with a couple of 100`s. Will do weight later today when hubby is doing his bike workout this evening.
  • Carl - very impressive! When is your big 100 mile indoor ride? You should do great.

    (Your IF can't be right...2.75 hrs at 0.93 means FTP isn't right...looks like it's based on an FTP of about 250 W...which is probably where you were a few weeks ago. I suspect you're closer to 270 FTP and the right IF is closer to 085 - 0.86 IF.)

  • Posted By William Jenks on 21 Mar 2013 05:40 PM
    Carl - very impressive! When is your big 100 mile indoor ride? You should do great.

    (Your IF can't be right...2.75 hrs at 0.93 means FTP isn't right...looks like it's based on an FTP of about 250 W...which is probably where you were a few weeks ago. I suspect you're closer to 270 FTP and the right IF is closer to 085 - 0.86 IF.)

    William-
    My indoor century ride is April 7 but I have a crit next week! Looking forward to both.
    My current FTP set both in wko and Trainer Road is 267. Hoping for a 275 here in a few weeks when we test again. I'm happy with my vDOT and will not be trying to push that up the rest of the OS. Ready to start working on some endurance and speed though in the water.
  • Sounds good. Just realize that some of the statistics (e.g., AP, NP, VI) are absolute and others (IF, TSS) are relative to the FTP you feed it.
  • I had a pretty good ride again tonight. I was not optimistic during warmup: (1) had had two good days in a row.... how much luck can you have?; (2) warmup RPE wasn't bad, but rated-perception-of-quad-ache was high. :-)

    In the end, it was all good: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/287252062

    Did 4 x 5' at 274, 277, 275, 279 W (FTP of 248) with 4' rest
    I had 5' more to get to an hour, so I did one more, but sitting up at 275. Next week, I'm going to go for 5 x 5'

    Something funky on the HR strap again. I was registering heart rates like 50-60 during the work intervals...it seems like it starts funky and stays there until something "catches" and then it behaves...as it did in the last 15 min or so. I gotta find my gel and see if that solves the problem.

  • Posted By William Jenks on 21 Mar 2013 09:53 PM


    Something funky on the HR strap again. I was registering heart rates like 50-60 during the work intervals...it seems like it starts funky and stays there until something "catches" and then it behaves...as it did in the last 15 min or so. I gotta find my gel and see if that solves the problem.

    Change the battery.
  • Well after the failed run this morning I wasn't expecting a super bike. But I was pleasantly surprised to get a decent bounce-back.

    Our temp nanny didn't know not to touch the thermostat and had cranked the heat in the basement...I cracked the window after the warmup (the impact of which can be clearly seen on the temperature chart). Today I moved up to 4x5' but unlike William I went with 6' recoveries in order to finish the final interval at exactly 60' (now reading William's post I feel like a real wimp!!). Unlike last week where I went with a lower cadence on the later intervals and had an easier time, today I went with a high cadence for intervals 1-3 then a lower for the first half of interval #4 at which point my legs were screaming and I flipped to an easier gear…and saw my power fall off a cliff. These are very tough workouts but I like them. I think they are much more effective than the shorter VO2s. I am pretty worried about my ability to complete 5x5' of them when the plan flips up to add the final one. Once again I was also able to hit z1 in all of my recoveries.

    Bike – overall 60', NP 232, IF 0.912. Full warmup of 10' easy/z1 then 3x3'(1')@z3. Then the main set:

    5'(6') @110% – NP: 281 (IF 1.106), VI 1.00, HR 155/162, cad 93, recovery @ NP 175
    5'(6') @110% – NP: 284 (IF 1.118), VI 1.00, HR 159/167, cad 94, recovery @ NP 172
    5'(6') @110% – NP: 286 (IF 1.125), VI 1.00, HR 162/169, cad 94, recovery @ NP 168
    5'(-') @110% – NP: 286 (IF 1.127), VI 1.00, HR 162/171, cad 91

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/287261663
  • Yesterday afternoon I got on the bike for the 3 sets of 5x1/1. It reminded me of why I like to do them in the morning if I can. They are tougher at the end of the day than at the beginning. Nothing too special on the intervals -- felt strong enough to push for a good 'kick' at the end of the last one.
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