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To kick or not to kick

In the May Triathlete Magazine Olympian Gary Hall writes about the importance of kicking. I'm reading this more and more. There seems to be a trend emerging that we should incorporate a good 6 beat kick and that it won't wipe out our legs for the bike and run. In my Master's swim class  when the coach says kick I get left behind everytime. For years I have conditioned myself to not focus on my kick. My times are stagnant and I don't believe it's my pull.  I think it's time to start kicking.

Are you a kicker?

 

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  • Sheila,

    See this blog post I wrote a couple years ago on this topic. Any observations from the rest of the team?

     

  • Open water swimming greatly favors developing a SOFT continuous or 6 beat kick. Being soft and consistent, that type of kick ensures proper body position, good anchor for long front quadrant swimming.  I am aware of many schools of thoughts on kicking, however, one should not be looking into sprint and middle distance swimming for answers. We can draw only some conclusion from distance swimmers but with lots of reservation as well.

    Distance swimmers at the top, come with a large variety of kicking types. For us, it is important to understand that oxygen is king and using big leg muscles to kick strongly on a 6 beat kick is very counter productive. However, once again, training to swim with a very soft 6 beat kick ensures efficiency in maintaining the body position with minimal oxygen debt. I will assume that triathlete will strive to develop front quadrant swimming which is greatly complemented with the type of kick I have come to learn to work well for most.

    Please, research more, this is just another angle. This is by no means to suggest you go out and do daily 1200-1500y of kicking, not at all. However, through FR balance drills, triathlete can "kill two birds with one shot", work on improving balance and improving kick efficiency.

    Suggested sets can look like this, as a part of your warm up 6-8x50@1:15 kick on side arm extended, 6 kicks switch or any other FR drill that works on side to side balance, also as you progress in the season, you can move this type of drill set for a total of 300-500 at the end of the workout, focusing on balance when tired........your imagination is the limit, you can mix in main set intervals of swimming and kicking on the side......

    I am less likely to suggest straight out kick sets on stomach for triathletes, thinking we can use that time elsewhere, however, swimmers thrive on 15-20% of total yards kicking only........another story.

  • I read the same article and just don't know. Gerry Rodriguez basically agrees with Rich that the kick is unimportant for triathletes other than to maintain body position. But at the same time I wonder why my kick sucks so bad. At masters this morning, I had fins on and could not keep up with the 2ladies in the lane next to me who were chatting up a storm on the kick set. What does it take to get a little power in that kick?
  • I have been outkicked by my BB 14 year old boy swimmer long time ago. A month ago I was told "move over sucker!" by my AAA 10 year old girl. They total 1200-1500 of kicking per day, they kick from the hip, point their toes back as they have very flexible ankles. Their hip flexors are not constantly over worked from cycling as ours......excuses......

    If you ever watched swimmers kick during their middle school or HS track season, they look like us, never get anywhere as their legs are trashed much like ours.

    I cannot kick worth a darn, getting worse by the month as I do not train the kick at all, do very little balance drills too so no benefit there either. I do not say it is the way to go, but likely a happy balance is in order.

  • Gary Hall is full of crap, or at least, has little to no experience with non-elite age group triathletes. He may be right that the difference between an average Division I swimmer, whose event is 400 yards/meters or less, and the NCAA champion/Olympian is kick strength. He may even be right that the difference between a successful ITU pro and one who is struggling to catch the pack out of the water is kick strength. But he doesn't offer any evidence to support the claim that kicking strength is the difference between an average triathlete and a front-pack swimming age-group triathlete. He also doesn't offer any evidence that the opportunity cost of doing kicking sets is worth the trade-off for an average triathlete. His experience in getting the last couple of percentage points that move a national level 200 freestyler to the international level just doesn't necessarily translate to moving a 2:00 per hundred swimmer to a 1:40 swimmer.

    His article also says "The best way to kick is with the Finis alignment board and the Finis Snorkel." I am deeply skeptical of articles that include specfic product recommendations, and wonder whether increasing Finis sales was really the point.

    I think that kicking, in the open-water, with a wetsuit, at the beginning of a triathlon, is important to (a) maintain balance; and (b) avoid drag-inducing stroke flaws like scissor or cross-over kicks. So long as your kick doesn't reduce propulsion or increase drag, and doing a couple hundred yards/meters of balance kicking drills a week like Aleksander suggests should be enough to accomplish that, the kick is just not that important.
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