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Golden Cheetah Bike Score

Can someone explain to me how to use Golden Cheetah Bike score to find out what my TSS is? I have read up on it, but just do not understand.

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  • My understanding is for all practical purposes Bikescore = TSS... Its just trademark and mathematical calculations.... I just compared Bikescore to TSS in one of my recent workouts and Bikescore was 94 and TSS was 96.7.... Close enough for me...
  • Yes, Bike Score is the same as TSS. The only difference is that one uses a 30 second rolling average and the other uses a 25 second rolling average in the calculations (due to a licensing issues in Training Peaks WKO).

    Also, I think that xPower is pretty much the same as Normalized Power (slightly different formula, but I think the same idea). One uses exponential smoothing instead of a moving average in its calculations.

    Also, I think that Golden Cheetah version 3 (in development, but you can download a release candidate version) will start to use the terms TSS and Normalized Power to better align with more industry standard terms. I guess they sorted the licensing out.
  • The main difference between TSS and Bike score (and NP vs xPower) is how they handle the rolling averages. the xPower is exponential, while the NP is a rolling boxcar. Arguably, the exponential weighting makes more sense, but that's another matter. In any case, my observation is that xPower is typically a (very) few W lower than NP and Bike score is a couple of percent lower than TSS for that reason. Otherwise, they are (as others have said) functionally equivalent. Mike is right about GC3 having NP/TSS/etc.

  • Posted By William Jenks on 23 May 2013 03:46 PM


    The main difference between TSS and Bike score (and NP vs xPower) is how they handle the rolling averages. the xPower is exponential, while the NP is a rolling boxcar. Arguably, the exponential weighting makes more sense, but that's another matter. In any case, my observation is that xPower is typically a (very) few W lower than NP and Bike score is a couple of percent lower than TSS for that reason. Otherwise, they are (as others have said) functionally equivalent. Mike is right about GC3 having NP/TSS/etc.

    I've found this to be true for short rides, but for longer ones > 2 hours,  xpower < NP by about 10 percent. Bikescore also lower by around same margin.  

  • Just to dig a little more into William's answer, because Np is a 'boxcar' average whereas Xpower is an 'exponential' weighted average, then if the power is very steady, both will give almost identical results. Conversely, if the power is changing a lot (and changing quickly) — think VO2 max sets — then the results will be quite different.

    So, as most of our long rides in season are usually spending significant time practicing riding steady, in those circumstances I would expect that these results on those types of rides would be fairly similar.
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