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CAN A 54 YEAR OLD GET FASTER? HOW TO PLAN ACCORDINGLY?

As I begin to set my objectives for 2014 (and plan accordingly) I am asking myself if at my (our) age (54) one should aim, plan and train to GET FASTER .... or understand that aging is part of the process and plan with certain moderation? ... which is definitely not my (our) nature.

Assuming that the majority think "always try faster" (i hope?) I am not sure how to set objectives in a disciplined, structured and realistic (while challenging) fashion.

Specifically: current FTP 231 / Vdot 49.5. 

With similar numbers I run 4;52:48 Miami 70.3 in Oct last year and (all else equal) would like to PR that course coming Oct. 27 and gain a couple of AG positions (last year 8th in AG). Which suggests I should raise my FTP to 231 + x and my Vdot to 49.5 + y. The questions then are, 

(1) what is a realistic value for x and y (within the 4 month period), and

(2) do I just follow what the standard GF and Race Prep plans suggest or  dial-up the zones after each test by x% to force the speed gain?

Please share your wisdom / experience!!!

Comments

  • Certainly you can get faster as you get older, but I think it depends on when you start structured training in a specific sport. I did my first tri @ age 50 my first HIMs and IM @ 51. I got my PRs in both those distances 10 years later. But I had never run a step until I started doing triathlon, and I also had never raced a bike.

    I don't think there's any way to predict what your "x" and "y" will be. I just kept plugging along, and I think I actually stopped getting "faster" in terms of VDOT and FTP after about 6-7 years of training. My improvements after that were all in race execution, technique (including aero on the bike and cadence on the run) and endurance.

    My suggestion at this stage of your season is, plan for an 8-10 week HIM training cycle, and do the Get Faster plan before that. I'm also a big believer in Big Bike Weeks (or Big Tri Weeks), which you'd drop in about 10-12 weeks before the target race.

    One thing I'm noticing as I consider my racing strategy for my age-up next year...we slow down faster the older we get. So while I was able to be competitive as a 57 or even 59 y/o, it is much harder @ 64 going against 60 y/os Looking @ the race times in IMs and HIMs in the 65-69 category (not your worry, I know), I see only 60 or 61 in almost all the top 5 places. When I was 50-54, there seemed to be no such pattern.

  • Juan

    I am 54 also. I have gained some speed on both the run and the swim, yet its a very slow process. I just finished IM Brazil at 12:10. I was happy with the results even though it was not a PR. 

    My FTP is 224 and my Vdot is 46. I am now looking to stay healthy and get some small gains.

  • Tks for the input guys!!!

    Al: where in the WIKI (or elsewhere?) can I read about Big Bike Weeks or Big Tri Weeks?
  • As Al noted, the gains are harder to come by and more focused. A 28 year old Trevor Garson might say "I'll get faster at everything this year!" which means lots of work...but we all know that if he just had new tires he'd stop flatting and be faster. IOW, faster when older means you have to be smarter. image Body comp, aerodynamics, good course selection, these all matter...sounds like a fun project!!!
  • 56 YO checking in, I gave up my season of Tris this year and I'm working hard on the legs. I have achieved 1 VDot point and a few watts. It is a challenging endeavor one in which I'm giving a lot of time too as well. It is turning out to be, for me, the point where body comp must now come into play and I have to tell you that is just as challenging as shelling yourself for a run.
    In your case, since you don't have the time to really work on your running as mentioned above a big tri week timed correctly is the best way to go adding in some body comp work along the way.
  • Juan- what are your body comp numbers? Height, weight, have you lost weight recently? This would be some low hanging fruit for you to pick. As David eluded to, it can tough to loose those final few pounds but weight can make a huge difference. I have lost 12 lbs this spring and am racing 10 lbs light than I have ever raced before. I am 47 but fully expect to speed up across the board, by improving body comp and working to hard for speed.
  • @Steve, I'm 5.9, 153lb, 10-9% body fat. (last race a month ago was 150lb/9%). Always room for improvement there but not much I feel; except for maintaining same weight/fat with a bit more strength (muscle) which I'm working on (plus core/flexibility) .... and obviously continue the hard work (Vdot and Watts!!!!).

    Tks all for the contribution to the discussion. Keep it coming!!

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