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Garmin 910xt for swim

Quick opinion survey...when using your garmin 910xt for swimming (indoor pool), are you using the interval/lap to mark your sets? I haven't been, yet, but am contemplating it.

Does it really provide any benefit other than something else to distract me?

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  • I usually hit the lap button between sets. It's a very small nice to have when looking at the Garmin website since it groups your laps by the intervals and if you remember what you were trying to do then it's easier to find the laps that correspond with what you were trying.
  • I hit the lap button at the start and end of sets, it then shows rest intervals as well.
  • Also - you guys might want to read this thread: http://members.endurancenation.us/F...fault.aspx
  • I hit Stop, then Lap. When I start the next interval I hit Start. I find that keeps the lap count a little more accurate and easier to review since the only thing I'm actually tracking is the swim intervals (not the rest intervals). I've found it very helpful mostly for longer sets where I tend to lose count.
  • I don't want my 910 to get eaten by chlorine. Plus, I think it is over kill for in door swimming with no GPS.

    Check out the Super Sweet Garmin Swim. It is relatively inexpensive and works sooo great. It has a rest interval function that is great. Just hit lap at the start and the end of each period of swimming and it will differentiate the rest intervals for you.
  • I'm with Dino.

    I have both a 910 and a Garmin Swim. My Garmin swim died (because it's a Garmin, and every Garmin product I've ever owned has had to be warrantied at least once) and I was using the 910 indoors for a few weeks.

    It was ok, but definitely not nearly as good as the Garmin swim. The fact that there are no drill timers on the 910 was a pretty much instant deal breaker. That and it doesn't really understand the concept of rest intervals.
  • I use my 910, if for no other reason than to document my swims.

    For it to be of best use, you have to hit the lap button at the beginning and the end of each interval within a set. I don't find this to be a burden, but if you do, no problem!

    For example, you can take a look at this rather medicre swim of mine from today at an LCM pool: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/335949244 (I was really tired...stayed up way too late.)

    This was 3 x 500, then 10 x 50 on the minute, then a 5th 500. But just to experiment, I didn't use the lap button on the 50s. I just took off for the next length on the minute. It breaks up the lengths all screwy and can't even tell that I really did them all 10 on the minute, within about 1 sec accuracy. It thinks each length plus rest was a much more varying amount of time, although it does get the overall distance right.

    Contrast that workout to this one, in which I did a set of 100s, but clicked the lap button. Of course, you still don't get a super accurate time for such a short interval because it takes you a couple seconds to hit the button, but at least it's consistent, and gets everything as it should. http://connect.garmin.com/activity/334357029

    So my take is that if you want to use it in the pool for regular workouts, you just have to learn to hit the lap button all the time.

    (This said, I'm not sure what to do about the whole "drill" thing, or if it even matters, except if you're hung up about TSS of the workout. If you use a kickboard or do a sculling drill or anything like that, it won't register as you think it should. But if you use paddles or fins or a buoy that also makes you go faster, it will overestimate your TSS because of that, too...so the TSS part is just a complete balpark thing, unless you stick pretty much to straight swimming.)
  • I use the Garmin Swim, which I absolutely love, but don't bother with drills. I still hit the lap button at the beginning and end, in order to know afterwards how much time in the pool consisted of actual swimming and how much was resting. Then estimate TSS via time x IF of 0.8 (or basically, 1 TSS point per minute).
  • I've been using my 910 for my swimming for the last few weeks, but only just realized that WKO+ doesn't assign TSS values to the workouts (probably because WKO+ doesn't have any sort of "swim threshold" value to store).

    What does everyone use for TSS Scores for swim? Since WKO+ allows manual overriding of TSS, I want to update them. 1 tss/minute? (I think I remember seeing that somewhere before).

  • Posted By Scott Alexander on 09 Jul 2013 09:25 PM


     
    1 tss/minute?

    Yup. I tweak it between an IF of 0.76-0.84 depending on how much yardage I do per minute. For me, 50 yds/1 minute average for a workout, including rest time = 0.8 = 1 TSS unit/minute. I go up/down from that.
  • When I go into WKO+ and right-click on the swim workout, it only allows me to override values for TSS, not IF. But I only really needed TSS for the PMC any way (I think).
  • I used to see swim workouts in WKO+, but now whenever I download data from my 910xt I don't even see the swim workouts in the list of workouts to iimport to WKO+. I thnk this happened after one of the many updates to the WKO+ garmin interface driver. Is there a setting you have to check to have your swims go into WKO+? Is there something else I'm supposed to do?
  • @Bryan, On the WKO+ device agent, are you changing the pull down menu to select the 910xt? The 910 files are in the .FIT format.
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