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PSA: Want to be Faster in 2014? Don't Race a Marathon this Fall / Winter!!

Just like the swallows returning to Capistrano, I've seen my first Season Planning Survey for 2014 races with a fall '13 / winter '14 marathon on schedule. 

So it's obvious that as many of you end your A-race 2013 season in the next few months you'll start planning your 2014 seasons, and it's my hope that we can stop you from racing a marathon, or at least racing a marathon for the wrong reasons. 

Please go here and read our thoughts on Marathons and Triathlon Training

  • Thoughts or questions about the above article? Post them to this.
  • Got any "I shoulda listened to RnP re running a marathon" stories? Post them to this thread also.

Bottomline: our combination of OutSeason, Bike/Run Focus, Get Faster plans are our best tools for making you much, much faster. My intent here is to head you off from registering for a marathon so we can have a discussion about making you faster using those tools vs how do we compromise / adapt those tools to accommodate your marathon. 

Comments

  • just to back up coach, if improving your Ironman is THE goal, marathon racing is not a good thing.    about three years ago, I trashed my season potential for halves and full Ironman by racing a marathon.     
  • I am a marathoner at heart. I've run 15 marathons over the last 4 years. This year I ran Boston and deferred New York until next year. I am still playing catch up in my training for Tahoe. My out season suffered due to my focus on Boston. I agree with the coaches. If you want to get faster and stronger don't do a marathon.
  • If you really wanted to do an IM and a marathon in the same year (and do them well) aren't there certain timelines that would work? For example:

    2012 OS starting in November
    2013 IM in mid May (Lanzarote?)
    2013 End May/early June recovery
    2013 Marathon end September (Berlin?)
    2013 October downtime/month off
    2013 OS starting in November
    2014 IM in the summer

    Just being argumentative here! I can't see how you can qualify for Boston, run the Boston marathon and do a summer IM without compromising something.
  • Butttttttt Riiiiiiicccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh

    I do agree with the no marathon dogma, it is right for triathletes. No question. To build and recover right is too much.

    Personally I have some unfinished business, and want to check this sub-3 box this December. Then be done with marathons and focus on triathlons for the near future.


  • Posted By Helen King on 18 Jul 2013 06:23 AM


    If you really wanted to do an IM and a marathon in the same year (and do them well) aren't there certain timelines that would work? For example:



    2012 OS starting in November

    2013 IM in mid May (Lanzarote?)

    2013 End May/early June recovery

    2013 Marathon end September (Berlin?)

    2013 October downtime/month off

    2013 OS starting in November

    2014 IM in the summer



    Just being argumentative here! I can't see how you can qualify for Boston, run the Boston marathon and do a summer IM without compromising something.

    Helen, yes, that works from a training/recovery standpoint. However, what people often fail to consider is the mental cost of bouncing from IM season (or HIM) to a marathon to the OS to an IM season, etc. So in addition to people observing lots of I coulda shoulda woulda been faster for my IM if I had not trained for and raced a marathon, we also have people relating periods of mental burnout.

    If you ran all of the hundreds and hundreds a season plan screencasts I've done through an NSA data filter, staffed by Snowden, I'm sure, what you hear over and over again are my points about the mental cost of a race schedule and our focus on reducing this mental cost as much as we can. 


  • Posted By Brandon Cantrell on 18 Jul 2013 11:29 AM


    Butttttttt Riiiiiiicccccccccccchhhhhhhhhhhhh



    I do agree with the no marathon dogma, it is right for triathletes. No question. To build and recover right is too much.



    Personally I have some unfinished business, and want to check this sub-3 box this December. Then be done with marathons and focus on triathlons for the near future.



    Brandon, understood, and I state in the blog post that we get that it doesn't always mean tri tri tri. What I'm trying to head off, and I'm sure you understand this is:

    • I feel I need to improve my run, therefore I'll run a marathon, or...
    • I want to run a marathon on Date X and have a killer triathlon on Date Y.
    • Probably another one that I can't think of right now 

    Our intent here is to give these folks our perspective and experience and hopefully catch them before they make a decision that, we feel, doesn't support their goals like they think it will. 

  • Well I am going to be one of THOSE guys....I qualified for Boston and have a once in a lifetime chance to run it with my brother. Then I plan to kill the IMCDA course.
  • Congrats on the BQ!!
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