Do you replace most of your calories lost in the bike?

ecamp

Hi team
I did my RR on saturday and according to my garmin i lost 3000+ calories in the 6hrs ride. My nutrition intake was also at 2850 calories and was toleratig it very well. I am 188 lbs and my nutrition consisted of 2bottles of gatorade 150cals each 1gel every hr 100cals each and 1/2power bar every hr. 125cals each idrank 10 bottles (1500 cals) ate 6 gels (600 cals) and ate 3 bars (750 cals).
Am i overeating on the bike? Articles ive read in the past said that i shouldnt eat close to the cals i lost.
Thanks team!

Peter Greagg

Jayson

Have you looked at this webcast about Core Diet http://www.screencast.com/t/eAiPfNuIabyb
In it, there are guidelines on fuelling the bike and the run based on your lean body weight.

tim cronk

Jason.... A few years ago the fad/general concensus seemed to be lower calories and water , nowadays it seems to be about more calories and no water.... The one thing that is for sure is that this is highly individual , its what you can tolerate , and needs to be practiced ..The same holds true for sodium , caffeine, and fluids.. IMO It makes sense for the bike to consume at the higher end of what you can handle since this will be fueling for your run later in the day, and more than likely you may not be able to consume as much while running.... X2 on what Peter said and review the core diet... just keep in mind the word guidelines and adjust what works for you from there....

Scott Alexander

For me, a big dood @ 6'1" about 200lbs, I burn about 650cals/hr on the bike, but take in no more than 250/hr (Lara bars, frosted pop tarts). I can - and have - gone for six+ hours like this. Lots of water and nuun to hydrate.

My old training buddy Paul, was consuming 500-600 calls/hr of solid food (ex, power bars, clif bars, etc) with water. I don't know how he stomached that, or even transported it while riding!

So, yes, very individual. Needs to be tested in training and further vetted in race rehearsals.

robin sarner

yes look at the nutrition videos.

you, me, coach p about the same weight.       I have been copying coach p's nutrition.    2-3 bottles perform per hour (depending on heat).   200 cals per hour of powerbar gels or bars.                  so 500+ calories per hour.      works well for me 

cgres123

Yes you are over eating hard food , IMO, those 3 bars on the bike are too much. You should fuel up well before the race 2 days prior to race day. Your food , hard food, should be about 12-15 hrs before your race. Liquid nutrition after that point. investigate what the above folks have to offer as to their suggestions.

Eating, hard food, on the bike may come back to haunt you on the run. Your blood supply is doing everything it can to maintain all your organs as the body sees fit. When or before your run, the body may shut off supplying blood flow to the intestines/gut and then you will have issues in that area.

Make sense?

Dino Sarti

I go for the less is more approach. I believe that if I bonk I can easy and quickly eat something more on the run. However, if I get off the bike "over served", there is nothing I can do to feel better other than, slow down, puke or stop. Basically, hunger=easy to fix, bloat/full belly = not easy at all.

Having said that, if I don't need to run afterward, I can happily chow down on the bars....

ecamp

Hi guys
Thanks all for your reply.
I have seen half of the core diet video. I will watch half of it this week!
Ive also been following coach Ps meal plan as we have almost identical weight.
Ive been experimenting with the bars. I ate one 30mins before my long run then 20mins then 15 and had no issues. I know it doesnt replicate the long ride but when i tested it on my first RR it was sitting well in my gut. I did only run 3miles that day.
If i were to take the bars away what would u suggest i should take other than gatorade and gels?

Thanks again team!