I have a Palm Pre and downloaded Absolute Fitness, which is a tracker. I might do a Sprint in April if: 1) I lose 10 lbs to fit into my wetsuit 2) I can get my shoulder fixed.
I was much cleaner with my diet yesterday and dramatically reduced total cals and carbs just because I didnt' want to enter the data...therefore I didn't eat the crap. I was 3.6 lbs lighter today from less water weight.
Nice!
V
Yep. If you eat it, that means you have to log it = admission of defeat/weakness = you don't eat it. That's what I've found.
X2 - I can get all but about 5 lbs off just because of the act of logging what I eat makes me aware of how much I'm taking in. The last 5 lbs take a fair bit more effort though.
Your diet was exactly what I was doing for many years. Then since DH wanted to lose weight, he found a diet that he could follow. I read up on it and decided that it would be easier if we were both doing it. I was not trying to lose any weight. I workout in the morning before work. I drink water all day long, but a big glass immediately upon awakening. I usually don't take in calories before working out unless I will be going for more than 90 minutes, then I have 4-8 ounces of an Odwalla protein drink.. I always have dilute sports drink- Heed or Infinit during the short workouts. Immediately after working out I have a dilute recovery drink. Everything is usually 1/2 strength.
The changes:
1. protein at every meal- since I rarely leave myself enough time in the morning, the protein in the morning is a protein shake. We use Iso-pure. These taste great and hold me pretty well.
2. Mid morning snack- cheese stick or nuts. These days I might also have a piece of fruit.
3. Lunch is protein and vegetables- celery and peanut butter, salad with eggs
4. afternoon snack- ricotta pudding
5. dinner- salad to start, protein and veggies.
6. we cut out all white flour products. I no longer miss them and actually don't enjoy the taste any more.
7. Hardest was cutting out candy. I had to stop it all.
Without trying, I dropped 6 lbs and look much leaner. We started in August and I was not exercising much. I am sure I will drop more as OS and IS increase.
As I said I drink water all day long at work. I will have a diet soda at dinner when we are out, but at home I drink Seltzer. We often eat after 8 pm because when DH is on call, he may get home late. I'd rather eat together. But then I might only have a salad.
So, far...since logging my food intake over 2+ days I've dropped 4.8 lbs. I realize that most of it is water at this point, as noted above, but it's amazing how easy it is to fool ourselves unless we have the acountability.
@penny...oddly, my dinner for the last 2 nights has been Chipotle Burrito bol with no rice: black beans, fajita style peppers and onions, chicken, pico salsa and guac (for the fat content). The sodium load (using the Chipotle internet based nutrition app) is off the charts @ 1450 mg. Even with all the sodium I am still dropping water.
I took Coach P's advice and eat nothing after 7pm and try to eat earlier if time permits.
Time to go ride 50 miles and 5300 ft of vertical now...
In the past 2 days my application has my sodium intake at a min of: 3600mg on Weds, 2600+ on Thurs. My intake was probably higher as I love cornchips with salsa or hummus and would often snack on those prior to dinner. If it's any consolation...they were organic corn chips from Trader Joe's!
Of course there were the 8 or so Jo Jo cookies, which are the Trader Joe's brand of Oreo's (vanilla version). Since Weds I haven't had one as I do not want to add the nutritional info into my phone...
What do you recommend for sodium levels, generally speaking of course with regards to range?
I've got another question on FITDAY .COM. It says that for activities that you select for the normal day is this: Very low activity (sedentary) 2186 cal. Seated all day 2561 cal. Mostly seated w/some movement 2935 cal. Standing work 3235 cal. Strenuous work 3684 cal. This seams high to me but maybe it is ok. Has anyone else looked at the calories for your normal day? If so are these numbers correct?
It says that for activities that you select for the normal day is this:
Very low activity (sedentary) 2186 cal.
Seated all day 2561 cal.
Mostly seated w/some movement 2935 cal.
Standing work 3235 cal.
Strenuous work 3684 cal.
This seams high to me but maybe it is ok. Has anyone else looked at the calories for your normal day?
If so are these numbers correct?
Rich
Hi Rich,
What I think it is doing is taking your estimated resting metabolic rate and multiplying it by an activity factor. That is how daily calorie estimates are done. So, if you are seated all day, you'd be at 2935 then add your workouts on top of that. I'd have to know your height, weight, age to know if that is realistic. Or, google "Mifflin-St. Jeor metabolic equation" and work it through.
In the past 2 days my application has my sodium intake at a min of: 3600mg on Weds, 2600+ on Thurs. My intake was probably higher as I love cornchips with salsa or hummus and would often snack on those prior to dinner. If it's any consolation...they were organic corn chips from Trader Joe's!
Of course there were the 8 or so Jo Jo cookies, which are the Trader Joe's brand of Oreo's (vanilla version). Since Weds I haven't had one as I do not want to add the nutritional info into my phone...
What do you recommend for sodium levels, generally speaking of course with regards to range?
Vince
Hi Vince:
It really depends on the person, if you are a "salty sweater," and if you or your family has a history of high blood pressure.
One day into Lose It. Very eye opening. Never realized how dependent I am on exercise to keep my weight down. This program tells me 1600 calories a day plus exercise. I go to my favorite buritto shop, order, eat, and pull out the iPhone to log it. 870 calories!! I'm half done for the day and still hungry. I'll do better tomorrow
One day into Lose It. Very eye opening. Never realized how dependent I am on exercise to keep my weight down. This program tells me 1600 calories a day plus exercise. I go to my favorite buritto shop, order, eat, and pull out the iPhone to log it. 870 calories!! I'm half done for the day and still hungry. I'll do better tomorrow
Hey Tom - Rich, Geoff, and I are trying out the friends feature of lose it if you want to join use see our email addressess earlier in this thread.
So far I like it because it adds another level of accountability. I know Rich and Geoff can see how much I ate and how much I worked out each day.
I bought Matt Fitzgerald's book "Racing Weight How to Get Lean for Peak Performance" last weekend as I definitely need to improve my w/Kg. The OS and HIM plans will take care of the Numerator but I need some work on that denominator too.
I downloaded this app yesterday after reading this forum and would like to join the experiment with the Friends feature. My email is wem3 at mac dot com
I've only read about 30 pages of the book so far, but it looks pretty good.. Has anyone else read it?
One day into Lose It. Very eye opening. Never realized how dependent I am on exercise to keep my weight down. This program tells me 1600 calories a day plus exercise. I go to my favorite buritto shop, order, eat, and pull out the iPhone to log it. 870 calories!! I'm half done for the day and still hungry. I'll do better tomorrow
Amen, Tom! My 4-yr old son and I have a "Panera Date" every Friday at lunch. Yummy, fresh food - I could eat there every day Then I get LoseIt and enter in my lunch: 1500 calories! And, of course, Friday is my OS Day Off!!!
One day into Lose It. Very eye opening. Never realized how dependent I am on exercise to keep my weight down. This program tells me 1600 calories a day plus exercise. I go to my favorite buritto shop, order, eat, and pull out the iPhone to log it. 870 calories!! I'm half done for the day and still hungry. I'll do better tomorrow
Hey Tom - Rich, Geoff, and I are trying out the friends feature of lose it if you want to join use see our email addressess earlier in this thread.
So far I like it because it adds another level of accountability. I know Rich and Geoff can see how much I ate and how much I worked out each day.
I'm kinda bummed that it doesn't let you see WHAT the person ate, just that calorie chart. But, knowing I have "friends" makes me accountable to keep tracking every day - and not skip when I know I'm having an "over" day.
If you mean "salty" sweater by feeling grit on my skin after a 4 hour ride in moderate temps and no humidity? Then I'm salty. High BP runs on my Mom's side of the family.
Yesterday my app said I had over 4000 mg of salt. Those Chipotle burrito bols are a load at approx 1500 mg and I had a Starbucks Spinach feta wrap for breakfast (I was on the road) @ 1100+ mg sodium.
Just by getting my carbs controlled I was able to avoid exercise for 2 days (again...travel and a headcold/allergies) and my weight was very stable at only a 0.2 lbs difference vs a typical day with a 2-6 lbs shift in water weight. I was told that for every 1 gm in carb we take in that the body stores 3-4 gms of H20. Can anyone verify that?
If you mean "salty" sweater by feeling grit on my skin after a 4 hour ride in moderate temps and no humidity? Then I'm salty. High BP runs on my Mom's side of the family.
Yesterday my app said I had over 4000 mg of salt. Those Chipotle burrito bols are a load at approx 1500 mg and I had a Starbucks Spinach feta wrap for breakfast (I was on the road) @ 1100+ mg sodium.
Just by getting my carbs controlled I was able to avoid exercise for 2 days (again...travel and a headcold/allergies) and my weight was very stable at only a 0.2 lbs difference vs a typical day with a 2-6 lbs shift in water weight. I was told that for every 1 gm in carb we take in that the body stores 3-4 gms of H20. Can anyone verify that?
Vince
Vince: Yup, you are a salty sweater.
Isn't it amazing how much sodium restaurants are able to get into food? I don't know how they do it. Panera breads have a scary amount of salt in them.
I need to look up the sodium recommendations to be sure. I'll get back to you on that one.
And, yes - for every 1 gram of glycogen (storage form of sugar in your liver and muscles) your body stores 3 g of water. I used to have the cite, but not sure where it is now.
Basic, dumb, oft-repeated question that I now have to incorporate into my brain. Fit Day has me all focused on my intake. What are teh recommended %s of protein, fat, and carbs for athletes? Thanks!
I think it is 60% carbs, and 20 each protein and fat generally speaking.That said I also think that is supposed to change according to where you are in your training cycle. I read Monique Ryan's book - can't remember the name right now - and there was a handy little chart somewhere that showed how to adjust those levels according to how much you are training and how close to racing you are. I'll see if I can find it, but hopefully Penny will know right off the top of her head!
The best answer to the question I've ever seen is "it depends"
Most commonly cited is similar to Robin's comment. Monique Ryan's book comes at it from a different perspective, saying that your fat and protein needs don't vary as much as your carb needs do, so in periods like our OS, you may be closer to 50 / 25 / 25 (or less carb), and during heavy endurance training (like IM race prep), that could be 80 / 10 / 10. That change is because the additional caloric needs of long runs/rides should come mostly from carbo's.
Probably makes sense to start somewhere in the 50-60% carbo range, and tweak a bit up or down and see how you feel and how your body weight responds. Less carbos at the same caloric intake often means more weight lost. That being said, I was one of those folks who did Atkins about 7 years ago, while playing in an amateur mens soccer league. Boy did that suck! So, less carbos within reason, I guess.
I do my best to eat well (lean meat, fruit, veg, limit starch to before, during, after exercise, heavy on the protein after something that I feel did some muscle damage, stay hydrated, etc) and let the percentages take care of themselves.
I went off the calorie-counting reservation this weekend. I didn't go nuts (actually, maybe a little nuts on Saturday ) but I'm juggling my training week around to better fit with some short and long term goals I've begun to set for myself. Counting cals will work better/less well with some days vs others. More later on my scheming
I do my best to eat well (lean meat, fruit, veg, limit starch to before, during, after exercise, heavy on the protein after something that I feel did some muscle damage, stay hydrated, etc) and let the percentages take care of themselves.
I went off the calorie-counting reservation this weekend. I didn't go nuts (actually, maybe a little nuts on Saturday ) but I'm juggling my training week around to better fit with some short and long term goals I've begun to set for myself. Counting cals will work better/less well with some days vs others. More later on my scheming
Looking forward to hearing more about the scheming!
It was your post on using the apps that got me to finally give FitDay a go. Tons of people here and recommended it, but I never wanted to put in the time, even though it's super easy. WOW, was I eating WAY MORE than I thought. That, and a newly-diagnosed, messed-up thyroid has been keeping these stubbon 5-7 lbs on. Calories are part of the input I needed, but looking at how I divide my cals has been very eye-opening. I'm learning a lot, and making better choices. May it last.
I've been doing the Loseit thing for about a month now after seeing Rich's post about it. Last few days have been brutal because of a trip to VA Beach. I've been taking a nutrition course as part of my grad studies this semester though and have decided that I need to switch around my diet a bit so I'm starting something new tomorrow (as soon as I get to the store tonight to buy stuff), so I expect to see some better results soon.
Matt, Geoff - sent you friends requests on Loseit. Rich, Tom - didn't have your email addresses to send friend requests.
My address for Loseit friend requests is tonystocker AT mail DOT com
Hey Tony, address is rich@endurancenation.us. BTW, Google can't send webcrawlers into this forum so no need to spoof email addy's.
I might fire up a more robust ap, like DailyPlate, as LoseIt's database isn't very big and can become a limiter.
I took a couple weeks off from logging my stuff or weighing myself. I still rode 12-14hrs/wk and I dropped a pound or two. I went kinda postal over my birthday weekend last weekend , but I'm back in the saddle. I also seem to gain muscle mass if I even look at a weigt bearing exercise. Body is making lots of changes.
Give it a read and see if it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Started PDA in Nov 2007. Lost 12 lbs. Have been at that weight ever since. On race day for IMFL 2009 I weighed in at 168 lbs. Weighed in at 170 lbs yesterday. PDA works, provides plenty of energy for training and racing. My cholesterol is off the charts (good) and my BF hovers around 6-7%. What can I say? It made good sense to me and is not that hard to follow.
I second JL's comments about the Paleo Diet for Athletes. I've been on it since last summer. I lost 10lbs (not that I was trying to), maintain the lighter weight now with no problem, and feel great. I came to realize that I was living with food sensitivities to some of the foods that Paleo excludes, namely wheat and dairy. The biggest advantage to me was that my somewhat minor but noticeable skin, stomach, and respiratory issues that I have had as far back as I can remember are gone. I may be an exception, but the diet is worth a shot in my mind for weight loss or general health.
I feel your pain! I started training last year for my first IM and thought "wow, I'll easily lose 30lbs.!" Well, I lost about 15! How pissed was I?!!! I just thought I could eat anything. Well, I've changed my strategy this season. My problem is that I cannot follow a specific diet plan. I eat lunch with a bunch of colleagues who are on this diet and that diet, but we have summed it up like this, you have to be hungry most of the time to lose weight! I hate it. But I try to drink a bunch of water all day and especially before meals. I start out with a bowl of cereal, and fruit for breakfast. Then I have a baggy of some sort of veggie 2 times as a snack in the morning, then a sandwich or an Amy's burrito for lunch, water and fruit the rest of the afternoon until I get home, then I eat some cheese, or crackers/carrots with hummus, very little dinner or no dinner if I'm scheduled to run, and my recovery drink. Some days I'll binge a bit after work, but my dinner is piece of protein fish or chicken, and a bunch of veggies on the side. My stomach is growling as I type. But, I've gotten used to it. I may eat a bit more on Fridays when my family eats at my folks. Everyone is different, but I have to lose weight! As long as I still feel strong during my workouts, I don't worry too much. Good luck!
1) Paleo works for some but not for others. If you want to see if it works for you, try it and see if you feel better/worse.
2) If you have food sensitivities/allergies, there are some great testing methodologies out there. Last year, my gut basically revolted. I used LEAP testing as one strategy and am now back to normal (www.nowleap.com). If you want a LEAP therapist, PM me and I can help you find one.
3) You have to be careful over-restricting calories for a period of time. If your body needs 2000 calories to function and you are burning 500 - 1000 calories per day in workouts and you only eat 1500 calories per day (a 1000 to 1500 deficit) , at some point your body is going to slow its metabolism down to conserve the energy you are giving it. I see this frequently with endurance athletes who don't understand why they can't lose weight. And, as you lose weight, your metabolism naturally goes down a bit, too. It is a huge balancing act. If possible, you might want to get your metabolism tested. I use a BodyGem for testing. Here is a link their site where you can enter your zip and find people locally who can test. http://www.microlifeusa.com/products_weightmanage.asp ; There are other tools as well (New Leaf is one). Or just google "RMR testing" and your city/state.
Well the weight is ever so slowly coming off, not as fast as I want it to! But non the less it is coming off! I think alot of it has to do with the weather changing, being able to get outside for the workouts. Way more fun outside than in. I'm down about 5-6lbs from my first post over a month ago so according to everyone hear, that is about the right way to lose weight 1-2lbs a week. Just seems so slow! Thanks everyone!!!
Comments
X2 - I can get all but about 5 lbs off just because of the act of logging what I eat makes me aware of how much I'm taking in. The last 5 lbs take a fair bit more effort though.
Sorry I am late to the discussion.
Your diet was exactly what I was doing for many years. Then since DH wanted to lose weight, he found a diet that he could follow. I read up on it and decided that it would be easier if we were both doing it. I was not trying to lose any weight. I workout in the morning before work. I drink water all day long, but a big glass immediately upon awakening. I usually don't take in calories before working out unless I will be going for more than 90 minutes, then I have 4-8 ounces of an Odwalla protein drink.. I always have dilute sports drink- Heed or Infinit during the short workouts. Immediately after working out I have a dilute recovery drink. Everything is usually 1/2 strength.
The changes:
1. protein at every meal- since I rarely leave myself enough time in the morning, the protein in the morning is a protein shake. We use Iso-pure. These taste great and hold me pretty well.
2. Mid morning snack- cheese stick or nuts. These days I might also have a piece of fruit.
3. Lunch is protein and vegetables- celery and peanut butter, salad with eggs
4. afternoon snack- ricotta pudding
5. dinner- salad to start, protein and veggies.
6. we cut out all white flour products. I no longer miss them and actually don't enjoy the taste any more.
7. Hardest was cutting out candy. I had to stop it all.
Without trying, I dropped 6 lbs and look much leaner. We started in August and I was not exercising much. I am sure I will drop more as OS and IS increase.
As I said I drink water all day long at work. I will have a diet soda at dinner when we are out, but at home I drink Seltzer. We often eat after 8 pm because when DH is on call, he may get home late. I'd rather eat together. But then I might only have a salad.
You will figure it out. Good luck.
tom
HOW COME I'M SO THICK HEADED?
Took me long enough to start logging my food.
So, far...since logging my food intake over 2+ days I've dropped 4.8 lbs. I realize that most of it is water at this point, as noted above, but it's amazing how easy it is to fool ourselves unless we have the acountability.
@penny...oddly, my dinner for the last 2 nights has been Chipotle Burrito bol with no rice: black beans, fajita style peppers and onions, chicken, pico salsa and guac (for the fat content). The sodium load (using the Chipotle internet based nutrition app) is off the charts @ 1450 mg. Even with all the sodium I am still dropping water.
I took Coach P's advice and eat nothing after 7pm and try to eat earlier if time permits.
Time to go ride 50 miles and 5300 ft of vertical now...
V
Vince: So what do you think your sodium intake was BEFORE you started watching it?
As athletes, we typically do need more salt, but that doesn't mean you can go crazy with it.
In the past 2 days my application has my sodium intake at a min of: 3600mg on Weds, 2600+ on Thurs. My intake was probably higher as I love cornchips with salsa or hummus and would often snack on those prior to dinner. If it's any consolation...they were organic corn chips from Trader Joe's!
Of course there were the 8 or so Jo Jo cookies, which are the Trader Joe's brand of Oreo's (vanilla version). Since Weds I haven't had one as I do not want to add the nutritional info into my phone...
What do you recommend for sodium levels, generally speaking of course with regards to range?
Vince
It says that for activities that you select for the normal day is this:
Very low activity (sedentary) 2186 cal.
Seated all day 2561 cal.
Mostly seated w/some movement 2935 cal.
Standing work 3235 cal.
Strenuous work 3684 cal.
This seams high to me but maybe it is ok. Has anyone else looked at the calories for your normal day?
If so are these numbers correct?
Rich
Hi Rich,
What I think it is doing is taking your estimated resting metabolic rate and multiplying it by an activity factor. That is how daily calorie estimates are done. So, if you are seated all day, you'd be at 2935 then add your workouts on top of that. I'd have to know your height, weight, age to know if that is realistic. Or, google "Mifflin-St. Jeor metabolic equation" and work it through.
Hope that helps!
Hi Vince:
It really depends on the person, if you are a "salty sweater," and if you or your family has a history of high blood pressure.
Hey Tom - Rich, Geoff, and I are trying out the friends feature of lose it if you want to join use see our email addressess earlier in this thread.
So far I like it because it adds another level of accountability. I know Rich and Geoff can see how much I ate and how much I worked out each day.
Hi All,
I bought Matt Fitzgerald's book "Racing Weight How to Get Lean for Peak Performance" last weekend as I definitely need to improve my w/Kg. The OS and HIM plans will take care of the Numerator but I need some work on that denominator too.
I downloaded this app yesterday after reading this forum and would like to join the experiment with the Friends feature. My email is wem3 at mac dot com
I've only read about 30 pages of the book so far, but it looks pretty good.. Has anyone else read it?
Amen, Tom! My 4-yr old son and I have a "Panera Date" every Friday at lunch. Yummy, fresh food - I could eat there every day
Then I get LoseIt and enter in my lunch: 1500 calories! 
And, of course, Friday is my OS Day Off!!!
I'm kinda bummed that it doesn't let you see WHAT the person ate, just that calorie chart. But, knowing I have "friends" makes me accountable to keep tracking every day - and not skip when I know I'm having an "over" day.
If you mean "salty" sweater by feeling grit on my skin after a 4 hour ride in moderate temps and no humidity? Then I'm salty. High BP runs on my Mom's side of the family.
Yesterday my app said I had over 4000 mg of salt. Those Chipotle burrito bols are a load at approx 1500 mg and I had a Starbucks Spinach feta wrap for breakfast (I was on the road) @ 1100+ mg sodium.
Just by getting my carbs controlled I was able to avoid exercise for 2 days (again...travel and a headcold/allergies) and my weight was very stable at only a 0.2 lbs difference vs a typical day with a 2-6 lbs shift in water weight. I was told that for every 1 gm in carb we take in that the body stores 3-4 gms of H20. Can anyone verify that?
Vince
Vince: Yup, you are a salty sweater.
Isn't it amazing how much sodium restaurants are able to get into food? I don't know how they do it. Panera breads have a scary amount of salt in them.
I need to look up the sodium recommendations to be sure. I'll get back to you on that one.
And, yes - for every 1 gram of glycogen (storage form of sugar in your liver and muscles) your body stores 3 g of water. I used to have the cite, but not sure where it is now.
Basic, dumb, oft-repeated question that I now have to incorporate into my brain. Fit Day has me all focused on my intake.
What are teh recommended %s of protein, fat, and carbs for athletes? Thanks!
I think it is 60% carbs, and 20 each protein and fat generally speaking.That said I also think that is supposed to change according to where you are in your training cycle. I read Monique Ryan's book - can't remember the name right now - and there was a handy little chart somewhere that showed how to adjust those levels according to how much you are training and how close to racing you are. I'll see if I can find it, but hopefully Penny will know right off the top of her head!
The best answer to the question I've ever seen is "it depends"
Most commonly cited is similar to Robin's comment. Monique Ryan's book comes at it from a different perspective, saying that your fat and protein needs don't vary as much as your carb needs do, so in periods like our OS, you may be closer to 50 / 25 / 25 (or less carb), and during heavy endurance training (like IM race prep), that could be 80 / 10 / 10. That change is because the additional caloric needs of long runs/rides should come mostly from carbo's.
Probably makes sense to start somewhere in the 50-60% carbo range, and tweak a bit up or down and see how you feel and how your body weight responds. Less carbos at the same caloric intake often means more weight lost. That being said, I was one of those folks who did Atkins about 7 years ago, while playing in an amateur mens soccer league. Boy did that suck! So, less carbos within reason, I guess.
Mike
Thanks! I needed to be reminded of the general ranges. Got it.
I do my best to eat well (lean meat, fruit, veg, limit starch to before, during, after exercise, heavy on the protein after something that I feel did some muscle damage, stay hydrated, etc) and let the percentages take care of themselves.
I went off the calorie-counting reservation this weekend. I didn't go nuts (actually, maybe a little nuts on Saturday
) but I'm juggling my training week around to better fit with some short and long term goals I've begun to set for myself. Counting cals will work better/less well with some days vs others. More later on my scheming 
Looking forward to hearing more about the scheming!
It was your post on using the apps that got me to finally give FitDay a go. Tons of people here and recommended it, but I never wanted to put in the time, even though it's super easy. WOW, was I eating WAY MORE than I thought. That, and a newly-diagnosed, messed-up thyroid has been keeping these stubbon 5-7 lbs on. Calories are part of the input I needed, but looking at how I divide my cals has been very eye-opening. I'm learning a lot, and making better choices. May it last.
I've been doing the Loseit thing for about a month now after seeing Rich's post about it. Last few days have been brutal because of a trip to VA Beach. I've been taking a nutrition course as part of my grad studies this semester though and have decided that I need to switch around my diet a bit so I'm starting something new tomorrow (as soon as I get to the store tonight to buy stuff), so I expect to see some better results soon.
Matt, Geoff - sent you friends requests on Loseit. Rich, Tom - didn't have your email addresses to send friend requests.
My address for Loseit friend requests is tonystocker AT mail DOT com
Hey Tony, address is rich@endurancenation.us. BTW, Google can't send webcrawlers into this forum so no need to spoof email addy's.
I might fire up a more robust ap, like DailyPlate, as LoseIt's database isn't very big and can become a limiter.
I took a couple weeks off from logging my stuff or weighing myself. I still rode 12-14hrs/wk and I dropped a pound or two. I went kinda postal over my birthday weekend last weekend
, but I'm back in the saddle. I also seem to gain muscle mass if I even look at a weigt bearing exercise. Body is making lots of changes.
The Paleo Diet for Athletes.
Give it a read and see if it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Started PDA in Nov 2007. Lost 12 lbs. Have been at that weight ever since. On race day for IMFL 2009 I weighed in at 168 lbs. Weighed in at 170 lbs yesterday. PDA works, provides plenty of energy for training and racing. My cholesterol is off the charts (good) and my BF hovers around 6-7%. What can I say? It made good sense to me and is not that hard to follow.
NTG
Rich,
I feel your pain! I started training last year for my first IM and thought "wow, I'll easily lose 30lbs.!" Well, I lost about 15! How pissed was I?!!! I just thought I could eat anything. Well, I've changed my strategy this season. My problem is that I cannot follow a specific diet plan. I eat lunch with a bunch of colleagues who are on this diet and that diet, but we have summed it up like this, you have to be hungry most of the time to lose weight! I hate it. But I try to drink a bunch of water all day and especially before meals. I start out with a bowl of cereal, and fruit for breakfast. Then I have a baggy of some sort of veggie 2 times as a snack in the morning, then a sandwich or an Amy's burrito for lunch, water and fruit the rest of the afternoon until I get home, then I eat some cheese, or crackers/carrots with hummus, very little dinner or no dinner if I'm scheduled to run, and my recovery drink. Some days I'll binge a bit after work, but my dinner is piece of protein fish or chicken, and a bunch of veggies on the side. My stomach is growling as I type. But, I've gotten used to it. I may eat a bit more on Fridays when my family eats at my folks. Everyone is different, but I have to lose weight! As long as I still feel strong during my workouts, I don't worry too much. Good luck!
Dan
Here are some of my thoughts from recents posts:
1) Paleo works for some but not for others. If you want to see if it works for you, try it and see if you feel better/worse.
2) If you have food sensitivities/allergies, there are some great testing methodologies out there. Last year, my gut basically revolted. I used LEAP testing as one strategy and am now back to normal (www.nowleap.com). If you want a LEAP therapist, PM me and I can help you find one.
3) You have to be careful over-restricting calories for a period of time. If your body needs 2000 calories to function and you are burning 500 - 1000 calories per day in workouts and you only eat 1500 calories per day (a 1000 to 1500 deficit) , at some point your body is going to slow its metabolism down to conserve the energy you are giving it. I see this frequently with endurance athletes who don't understand why they can't lose weight. And, as you lose weight, your metabolism naturally goes down a bit, too. It is a huge balancing act. If possible, you might want to get your metabolism tested. I use a BodyGem for testing. Here is a link their site where you can enter your zip and find people locally who can test. http://www.microlifeusa.com/products_weightmanage.asp ; There are other tools as well (New Leaf is one). Or just google "RMR testing" and your city/state.
Thanks everyone!!!
Rich