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NOS 2014 Week 2, Bike Workouts (Time to Work)

Ok guys and girls, testing week is over.  Its time to get serious.  Good luck and lets hear about those workouts!

A note (reminder for the vets and caution for the newer folks):  Brenda and Joe have already mentioned what we call 'over-achieving'.  The OutSeason is 14 weeks long.  It intentionally starts off 'not as hard' and then turns the heat up.  There may be a tendency to overstep the assigned intensity during the 'shorter' intervals we enjoy early in the season.  Do so at your own risk.  You may get away with it, but there has been more than one 'hero' early on that turned into a 'had to skip a week guy' later in the OS or, even worse, sometime later during a build to a race.  You build a tower by showing up day after day, week after week, and doing solid work not by crushing it as hard as you can in one workout.

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  • Up early, done and done. 3x6 @ 0.98/0.98/0.97. In and out and time to get the kiddos to school. Good luck everyone!
  • Awesome work Roy!! Talk about getting it done! 

    I had a different experience this morning. Up early to get bike done before having to be to school (I'm a teacher). I'm trying to get used to the trainer, but I am having a really hard time.  I started, and after a short time felt bored so I started thinking about everything, then started to get down on myself on how slow, and out of shape I feel and ended up stopping.  Tried to refocus, started again, even put something on the TV but the same thing happened. I felt so discouraged. And now I am so mad at myself because I only got 30 minutes done and it was not work. WORK WORKS and I didn't do it.  If anyone has any advice on how to get accustomed to the trainer I would really appreciate it. 

  • Laura, two words: music playlist (loud if you want three words). Whatever gets you into that place to do work and take your mind off your legs (personally, i go with lots of ac/dc, hip hop, and electra/dance mixes). Head phones on and go to town.

    Advanced techniques include old Tour/Ironman videos, sufferfest videos, and youtube music video playlists.

    Don't sweat today, reload for your run workout, and set yourself up for Thursdays VO2 work.
  • Laura when I get to that place I throw on a Sufferfest video or something on Netflix that really grabs my attention. I end up so focused on those things, and hitting the numbers on Trainer Road, that the workout is over before I know it. Keep at it, you will overcome.
  • Laura, I am on trainerroad this year and that seems to be a nice new thing for me, but I think what you need to do is be easier on yourself. You got 30 minutes in. I know that they are were not hard or what you wanted, but you got something in.

    Not sure if this would help, but other than the suggestions above, what about printing off some motivational sayings, framing them and hanging them in your pain cave. Roy has what he calls a motivational board in his pain cave. See pics in thread entitled "you show me yours....I'll show you mine". I also have a local group of triathlon friends and we have created a FB group, where we post our workouts for the day. They are not detailed, but often say something like.....killed the bike today, or took 2 min of my run test. No data is shared, just end results. If you want to Facebook friend me, I am up every morning at 5am EST and if you put up a post saying you are not feeling the workout I will pipe in and give you support if you want.

    I more thing. If you are working out first thing in the AM, remember that you have just fasted while you were sleeping and need something to help you get through these hard workout. Zone 4 burs predominately carbs, so having a electrolyte drink with a piece of fruit or a gel 20 min or so before the ride will perk you up.

  • Laura you did the right thing by reaching out for help here. That is HUGE. That is what these threads are all about.

    When the going gets tough for me, I shift my thoughts to the 300+ other OutSeason peeps who also have their nose down, grinding it out. I especially think of those in cold climates, stuck in our pain caves. We are all in this together.
  • Nothing exciting to report from me today, just punching the clock. 30' run outside. Then down to the pain cave for 3 x 6' @ 0.99/0.99/0.99.
  • Bike was tough only completed one 20' interval due to a calf cramp avg for the interval -235W close enought to FTP. Good luck and have fun this week.
  • What are thoughts about beginning a thread for favorite music and videos?

    PS- what is the secret to making the nifty signature files I see so many of?
  • Got whole 60" min bike done, including 30" run and the pushups for the challenge.

    Curious about tomorrow's run being a "virtual" brick as I did the bike / run workouts in succession today.

    So inspired by all I am reading!

    Thanks and enjoy the day,
    Beth
  • For Laura- yes, the trainer sucks. Having key workouts to do does help focus somewhat, at least compared to when I use to tell myself I'd ride an hour and be off that bike in 20 min max. Think of the intervals as ways to split the bike up- just make it these 6 minutes. And remember, get the main set in, and if boredom/whatnot derails after that, fine. So you can do a quick warmup (whatever you need), then hit those FTP intervals, quick cool down and be done, forget the rest of the bonus Z3 stuff. My real trick to fighting the boredom is to only allow myself to watch TV/netflix while on the trainer. I'm actually looking forward to my ride this evening because I want to watch last night's How I Met Your Mother. My last trick is that while I know we are not suppose to be thinking about our big races yet, picture yourself racing and remember that you will be bored/tired/whatnot at the race- this is practice at dealing with that! And lastly, 30 minutes is more than the majority of people out there are doing today, so yay for you!
  • Posted By Elizabeth Hornak on 05 Nov 2013 11:07 AM

    What are thoughts about beginning a thread for favorite music and videos?



    PS- what is the secret to making the nifty signature files I see so many of?


    Elizabeth - go to wiki and search on "pimp my signature" and it'll come up. Kinda complicated and I only do it like once a year.
  • Roy, Thanks I'm in here now. I'm not used to all these threads.

    Today's bike workout was a tough one. Work went until after midnight. Legs were heavy and it was a good thing coaches notes said not to pay attention to cadence. HR monitor quit working so HR is way off. Anyway, intervals were 269W @ 103%, 267W @ 102% & 224W @ 86%.  Off to work. 

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/...bsp; 

  • Today was a good workout - both bike and run. I did 40' of aqua-jogging yesterday and maybe that helped on my recovery.



    Bike - 3 X 8'(2') at IF 1.0, 1.04, 1.06, and then to get in a full hr I did 3 X 4'(1') at IF .93, .94, .94 .

    Run - 30' @ Z1 with 3 X 20" strides came out to 3.2mi at 9:12/mi



    @Laura - I listen to a radio station that is entertaining, think how much I like this better than running, and finally how much I am going to chow down when I am done! image
  • Hit all intervals at 97% followed by 35 min run at Z1 as prescribed. I played with the incline on the treadmill to keep me interested and I did single legs drills after the Zone 3 work for the cooldown. Going to opt out of the pushup challenge. I injured my collar bone years ago and it hurts when I do pushups. Just can't do it. Tried, but I am in pain.
  • Work DUN!  Really focused on smooth pedaling.  Had some almost perfect VI numbers for the intervals.

    Overall: 57:32 // IF: .951 // TSS: 86 // VI: 1.05

    Interval 1: 6:00 /IF: 1.115 // TSS: 11.6 // VI: 1.01 <<<< NICE!<br />
    Interval 2: 6:00 /IF: 1.14 // TSS: 12.0 // VI: 1.00 <<<<  Suh-weet<br />
    Interval 3: 6:00 /IF: 1.115 // TSS: 11.5 // VI: 1.01 <<<< Nice again.<br />
    Interval 4: 10:00 /IF: .968 // TSS: 14.9 // VI: 1.00 <<<< BOOM!</span>

    Ran 25 minutes after at Z1 on new treadmill.

    Separately, I rode the Beverly Hills Gran Fondo this last Sunday.  50 mile fun day with my wife and nephew.  Good amount of climbing and did a lot of chat and riding as no one does EN style work.  :-)  But got a couple of good WORK sections in.  My VI was just stoopid!

    Here are my numbers:

    Overall:  4:14

    IF: .960

    TSS: 386.3

    NP: 196

    VI: 1.56



    One of the intervals:



    Time: 46.17

    IF: 1.078

    NP: 220

    VI: 1.32



  • Wow John your current FTP is too low 4 SURE but great work 

    Just came out of my Paincave and it looks like also my FTP is too low as I hit all three 8' intervals above IF 1.05

    I think I'll stay with the current FTP setting until end of next week (local Half-Maraton) and then increase it by at least 5%





    TSS 87 / IF 0.97 / NP 262 / Energy 901 kJ

    http://tpks.ws/daX1

    Now lets get to bed early to be ready for tomorrows 1.5mile Z4 intervals WOHOOOOO 

  • @Laura - I tried to watch moviez but that just doesn't work when I'm working that hard on the bike so I'm just listening to a random playlist of my iTunes library with Visualizer turned on. 

    For special very hard intervals I've prepared "super support playlists" image

  • @Stefan - Ya, That is an outside #. If I am 10% higher outside than on the inside trainer then the inside # is still too low. My FT test was less than stellar last week so I am going to wait 2 weeks and possibly up my inside number if it feels appropriate. Lotsa OS to go so no need to push it now.

    @Laura - The key is to get the MS done. In my case to day it was 3 x 6'. If you wanna shorten the warm up and cool down, feel free. Just get the MS done. Whatever it takes to get you "in the goove" and used to the trainer. Over time your mental six pack will get stronger. Rock on, sista!
  • @laura, I have some cool spin music from a friend who teaches an endurance spin class. Happy to burn some CD's for you. Drop me a message.

  • My key to getting through the workout: music. I've tried movies and TV shows, but that just doesnt work. Sufferfest videos will do the trick as well.
    I'll turn on pandora on my iphone or on my TV, depending on if I can crank it or not.
    I

    Workout done, complete with the 25' minute warmup.
    0.98/0.99/0.99 for the 3 intervals, plus the sweet spot at the end.
    At least for me, the 2nd set seemed the hardest. By the time I got to the 3rd set, my mind already knew the hardest parts were over, and I was able to get much lower in my aero position comfortably. By the time I finished the last interval, my chin was practically resting on my bottle between the bars.

  • first hotel gym bike wko of the OS -- not terribly fulfilling as I tried to calibrate the built-in PM to my HR zones, but still uncertain of how much "work" i put in. judging by the sweat puddles, it was good enough...

    used the EN standard warm-up and then 3x6' at ~100% of FTP based on RPE

    also banged out my pushups earlier today -- I think the diamond style will prove to be my undoing, but happy to take it as far as I can in the quest for 50!

    re: music, i can't get thru my intervals without a little Ke$ha, Flo Rida, or Pitbull! last year we even created an NOS playlist that all Spotify users can subscribe to. i've recently refreshed my "hitlist" and would be happy to create a new list based on everyone's suggestions

    good night from London!
  • "Quality" workout at the Marriott in Orlando this am. Got to ride the bike....not quite like the trainer at home though. I did feel like I had a good workout though. Then got the 30 min run in working my way through the parking lots as all of the treadmills were taken by 6 am.

    What do people do when they travel for work in the OS and no real bike available? Focus on the running? Or use the gym bike?
  • I'm leaving town on Friday for 10 days so it is motivating to see folks getting it done on hotel bikes. I'm planning to do some extra running while I'm gone, but you all are making me think maybe I can get a bike workout in.
  • LOL. I am sitting in a hotel right now. I try to hit a local gym for a spin class but definitely miss my Power readings. Usually, I try to switch my workouts to get in my bike before traveling for work.

    Good luck!

  • AC/DC, Linkin Park, Foo Fighters to go .96, .95, .96.

    Pitbull for the 80-85% stuff.


    No brick run today, saving it for a possible run test tomorrow if leg feels good.
  • Posted By Larry Pfeffer on 05 Nov 2013 04:13 PM

    "Quality" workout at the Marriott in Orlando this am. Got to ride the bike....not quite like the trainer at home though. I did feel like I had a good workout though. Then got the 30 min run in working my way through the parking lots as all of the treadmills were taken by 6 am.



    What do people do when they travel for work in the OS and no real bike available? Focus on the running? Or use the gym bike?
    @Larry - RnP can give you some real focused advice in the micro. In wiki I think there is a write up that basically says, take it as an opportunity to focus on a run. Get a good bike in before and after and you should come out fine.
  • @Larry, when at all possible (and available) when traveling, I'll use a gym/hotel bike. If I can get something at all close to my position, I"m good. I've also got a few sufferfest videos saved on my iPhone for emergency cases like this. I'll go with RPE and cadence for metrics. Its not perfect, but I figure something is better than nothing. YMMV.

    Nice work today everyone. Keep it coming!
  • Hit em all according to plan today. Looking forward to building these numbers as I remember how much easier this was only months ago!

    Laura - for me, riding the trainer was totally unbearable until I joined EN. The difference for me was riding with a purpose (training with power or HR and doing intervals VS just jumping on the bike and pedaling with no rhyme or reason)! Doing the intervals make those minutes count and go by...albeit sometimes painfully. I've read lots of good ideas in response to your post. Keep your head up and find what works for you!
  • Bike is being worked on, and I can't get her until Saturday, plus it's snowing (!), so that means I have to schlep to the gym to run. Ugh. HATE treadmills, but it beats slipping on the slick roads!
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