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Race Plan - Peter Noyes Surf City Half Marathon


Here is my race plan for my upcoming half marathon. My biggest question at this point is nutrition day before and morning of. Should I do what I do for HIM? Or is that overkill? Most of this plan is taken straight from the wiki.
 
Surf City Half Marathon Race Plan
 
I am on the get faster plan leading up to the race and it will serve as my vdot test going into my HIM and then IM season. The 'A' goal for this race is complete the half marathon within 1.5 vdot points of my 5K test, which would be 1:29:15. At this point my best training run is 11.36 miles at a 7:02 average pace (80 minute run). That training run felt great and I was holding a 6:50 pace for the last 4 miles (a bit faster than Zone2, whoops!).


Vdot test from 6 weeks ago = 52-53 (a 19:03 5k so almost 53)
Target HMP (taken from 53 - 1.5 vdot) = 6:49


First 3 miles
M1 + 15' = 7:04
M2 + 10' = 6:59
M3 + 5' = 6:54


Next 7 miles
6:49


Last 3 miles
Best effort
If feeling good -15" = 6:34
If it feels like threshold try to keep 6:49
If feeling great crush it
Last 1 mile

Empty bank account




Notes:
Hill at mile 4, (75 foot climb over half mile) should I adjust my pace at all over that?


Warmup:
20 minute jog


Nutrition:
Follow the HIM protocol?
2 Naked juices when I wake up and a coffee
Sip vitalyte until 90 minutes before
Sip water up until race
Gel with water 15 minutes before race


During race:
Alternate water and vitalyte at the aid stations. Coach P was pretty down on vitalyte but I have never run with a hydration belt. I ordered a can of vitalyte and I used it on a 12.6 mile 80 degree training run and I didn’t explode, so I think I should be ok.


Shot block every 15 minutes (from aid station), I used these on that long training run as well.

Comments

  • Looks pretty straight forward. Not too long easing into goal pace. Planning to find that dark place near the end. I think you'll do well.

    Hill? 75' in a half mile doesn't sound like much of a hill.... more like an incline. I'd try to stay on pace but pay attention to RPE and/or HR and let those inform your efforts.

    Day before just make sure you're well hydrated and dont overload at supper. Having a clean gut is a huge plus for well paced hard effort.

    Best of luck for those other things you can't control.
  • HM and HIM are very different so don't think it is anywhere near as complicated. RELAX. The vitalyte doesn't look real good to me either. And I don't like blocks on the run. But that's me. I usually take some water and one caffeinated gel around mile 8. Maybe some electrolyte drink in between. You don't need many calories if your going less then 90 minutes so you are more likely to screw it up by taking too much. Use what works for you but DON'T push calories. Your pacing strategy looks fine. Stay relaxed, don't be afraid of your speed, and enjoy your race.
  • Sounds good. On that 11 mile training run I didn't drink or eat anything and I was fine. I definitely don't want to eat too much and have problems. I am actually much more familiar with gels than blocks, I was just trying to "live off the land". I think carrying one gel is probably the way to go. Thanks!
  • My view for faster and more experienced runners is that giving up 30" over the course of your first 3 miles in a half-marathon is a mistake. I would go out at goal pace, or, in your case, maybe even a bit faster.



    I would keep the nutrition really quite simple. You don't need anywhere near the amount of calories as in a triathlon. This is a 90 minute run. If it were me, it would be a gel just before the start, and a gel at around mile 5 or so.



    Depending on the temperature, you will probably want to skip many of the aid stations. I would go with water only and even then probably take from only 1 or 2 of the aid stations. If it's hot, then 3 or 4. But really, this is a 90' workout for someone at your speed, you don't need to be drinking water every 10 minutes. You certainly didn't on your recent 11-miler, why would this be so different?



    Up hills, keep your RPE constant and accept a pace reduction. Don't get out of sorts if you're not hitting your pace on the hills.



    Regarding goal pace, I suggest you adjust it to be faster. If you're doing an 11-miler at 13 sec/mi slower than your goal pace and are running the last 4 of that at target HMP then I suspect your target HMP is too low. If your 5k VDOT is 53 why are you adjusting it?? As a slight aside, honestly, it really confuses me when people around here say you need to start subtracting points off your VDOT for longer distances. That is bogus. The whole VDOT concept is that you are able to predict performance at different distances. Now if you aren't trained for those different distances then it's a different story…no, you cannot run a marathon on 5k training and expect to perform at your 5k VDOT's implied performance. you SHOULD be able to do a marathon training plan and perform to something similar to that VDOT. For example, I ran a half-marathon at a VDOT just under 54 last spring (on OS training plan, nothing special). Then I did a proper marathon training program and ran a marathon at VDOT 54.3 in October. A month later I ran a half marathon at virtually the exact same 54.3 VDOT. Now some people have better long distance than short distance physiology, so this is certainly not perfect. But it works pretty well. For runs in the triathlon context then yes, there should be adjustments. But this is not a triathlon run, you appear to be trained well for the HM distance, and the above description of your 11-miler certainly seems to imply a higher level of performance. So do not let the VDOT or any adjustment factors hold you back. Let 'er rip.



    One other thing. The HM distance is forgiving in that if you go out too hard any implosion should not be spectacular. Mostly because it is a short enough distance that you can cover a lot of ground running "too fast" and by the time you implode there isn't much ground left to cover at a slower pace. You can run a full third of the race at 30 seconds per mile slower than you want and only lose a bit over 2 minutes. For most guys running the race at a 6:40 pace, 7:10 is like jogging…it's hard to imagine running slower than that and if you were, it has to mean you ran the first 8 miles really, really fast.



    If I sound a bit overboard on the whole goal-pace issue please read my race report from a half-marathon last March which is a lesson in mis-estimating your goal-pace: http://members.endurancenation.us/Forums/tabid/57/aft/11073/Default.aspx



    Best of luck and let us know how it goes!



    Matt
  • General thoughts on HM pacing (others may have heard me preach this before, sorry)

    • Listen to Matt. He's an expert at this distance.
    • Dont overthink the nutrition. Just a normal breakfast 2+ hours before gun time. A gel 15-30 minutes in advance sounds like a good idea. Then drink as you feel you need every two miles or so. Don't worry about calories or amounts - You won't run out of internal carbohydrate stores before the race is done, so, really, you can get by with only H20. Shot block only for psychological benefit - carry the shot blok sleeve (Packet of 6?) with you, makes a good security blanket, IMO
    • As to pacing, along with any other metrics you are considering (like HR or pace), think about this: Run the first 1-2 miles at what *feels* like marathon pace. By mile 3, it should be feeling just a shade easier than HMP By the time you get to mile 9 or so, you should be feeling like you working a very hard HMP. Then, the last three miles, it should progressively feel like "TP", then a 10 K ("TP"), then a 5K, and the last half mile like you won't be able to finish. Remember, this is RPE, not pace we're talking. Your pace will probably remain the same, it should just feel harder and harder to hold that pace.
    • Following specific pre-planned paces, in my opinion, for races this short (less than 2 hours), leads to under performance much more often than not. Let the runners around you, your own competitive spirit, and your by now well honed internal sensation for what various paces feel like in training guide you to your best possible performance, which probably exceeds your assumptions of what you are capable of.

  • Posted By Al Truscott on 20 Jan 2014 07:16 PM

    General thoughts on HM pacing (others may have heard me preach this before, sorry)

    • Following specific pre-planned paces, in my opinion, for races this short (less than 2 hours), leads to under performance much more often than not. Let the runners around you, your own competitive spirit, and your by now well honed internal sensation for what various paces feel like in training guide you to your best possible performance, which probably exceeds your assumptions of what you are capable of.
    YES, EXACTLY!! No idea why it took me so many words to explain what you said so simply in 2 sentences, but hey, I've never been one to limit the length of a post!!!!
  • Thanks guys. This has been very informative. I have been overthinking all of this. I think I will just go out and target 6:45 or so based upon how I feel and see what happens! I will carry a gel and just drink water a few times. Should be optimal race conditions, cool and flat. I am getting excited!
  • I just looked at my wife and said, "there are some smart dudes on this team"

    Great feedback. Have fun Peter! Crush it!
  • Wow, very little for me left to clean up. Yes to gel at half way and drink as need. Another point re nutrition at this pace is that it's really hard to eat. image

    Re the pacing, I am still a fan of easing into the run. The half marathon distance is long enough, and at your vDOT your HMP is close enough to your TP that just 10" faster per mile by mistake has you doing a threshold effort at the front end of a 90 minute run. Not ideal.

    I won't take away from what Matt or anyone else has said, but in my experience, including a sub-1:20 half marathon at 180lbs, is that early exuberance will still cost you. Case in point, I usually am passing people in a half marathon from Mile 4 on...so while you might not blow up, you won't run to your full potential. That said, if you trained specifially FOR a Half Marathon, following a Half Marathon Plan, tons of running, minimal cycling, etc, then yes, I would expect you to run that bad boy wire to wire. But most of use who are "doing a half at the end of the OS" bring a lot more baggage to the table than this focused, mainly run-oriented person.

    More importantly, this "smaller" race is a chance to put proper pacing and strategy to the test...a milestone en route to getting you to follow our other race day strategies (a selfish coach reason, but a solid one nonetheless).

    Excited to hear how you do...make sure you get all your watches and hrm synchronized so we can see how you do!
  • One more question:

    What shoes to wear?

    I have a pair of racing flats (New Balance MRC 1600) that I have only worn a few times and raced a 5k in. My normal shoes are Brooks Pure Cadence 2. I basically save 6 total oz of shoe by using the racing flats which by some estimates might make me 2% more efficient. Should I risk it and run the race in the flats? Or at this point should I just go with my tried and true training shoes?
  • If it were me - I'd go with the ones that brought you. Race time isn't the time to experiment. You'll be lightning fast in either pair!
  • My $0.02 is to wear the flats/ If you raced a 5k in them and they felt ok then you'll be fine. And even if you aren't, the race will be 3/4 over by the time you figure that out and you'll gut out the rest. In fact, you shouldn't be feeling anything in the last quarter of the race....just so focused.

    I train in the running equivalent of boots -- Asics GT-2000's with Superfeet inserts. These suckers are so supportive it's nuts. When I raced last year I used Addidas Adizero 2.0 shoes. I only ever used them in races. I ran my first half marathon in them having bought them 2 days before. I was fine during the race and man did they ever feel light!! For the 3 days after the race I had all sorts of soreness in my ankle muscles becuas emy feet weren't used to such unsupportive shoes. But during the race I was absolutely fine. Then before the Chicago Marathon (my first marathon) I agonized as to if I should "risk it" by wearing them again. I did, and again I was absolutely fine during the race.
  • Peter - in case you had any doubts you should defer to the WSM who ran a 3 hour marathon...and that AIN'T me!! #NoBrainer
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