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Sweat Rate & Fluid Replenishment

Hoping for some feedback regarding the sweat tests that are described in the "Sweat Trial" and "Monitoring Hydration Status by Kitima" wiki links.

I did a trial this a.m. in the pain cave.  So with steady temperature, humidity and weather conditions I rode for an hour at HIM/Z3.  Lost 1.8 lbs and drank 17 oz.

"Sweat Trial" method applied (see the wiki for an explanation of the formula):  1.8 x 16 oz = 28.8 oz at the cool/low end; 1.8 x 24 oz = 43.2 oz at the warmer/high end.  The wiki also instructs to add the fluids (although this does not seem to have been done in the example provided) to its 45.8 oz/60.2 oz.

Using the method prescribed in the "Monitoring Hydration Status" (see the wiki for an explanation of the formula):  17oz of fluid replaced = 1.0625 lbs (17 divide by 16); 1.8 + 1.0625 = 2.8625 lbs lost in an hour; 2.8625 lbs x 16 oz/lbs = 45.8 oz/hr  (so dead on to the cool/low end as calculated using the Sweat Trial method).

I know that I don't take in enough fluids on my rides so I expected to see a number that was higher than I've been taking in.  I also realize that sweat rate is highly personalized and will fluctuate by weather conditions and once the numbers are determined they may need to be tweaked, but it seems like a lot of fluids to take in per hour (45.8 oz!), especially under the conditions used in testing (under different conditions, I expect the numbers to change but I would guess that they would still seems really high).  I'd love some feedback from those who have conducted the tests and then put the resulting information to use.  I want to be a believer, but the numbers seem so big that I'm skeptical.  Thanks!

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  • My numbers were very similar to yours when I last tested, with a range from mid 40's to 53oz/hr.  I too thought this sounded impossibly high.  But, I used this this strategy at Austin 70.3 and it worked well.  It was not a hot day, so it made it a little hard to drink that much, but I did it.  I felt great on the run....a little bloated the first few miles, but nothing major.  

    I'm planning to retest a couple of months before IMTX, and then make sure I use these for all my RR and long rides/runs.  

    So, your numbers do not sound "out there", at least they're similar to mine.  For what that's worth.  

     

  • Thanks Jeff.  Its helpful to know that others have had similar thoughts but also good results.

  • Gerry - Here's some of my historical data for both some of my bikes.  NOTE - these were all outdoor.  I track Relative Humidity as I find it is somewhat determinate as to my sweat rate.

    5/28/2011 59 oz/hr 82deg 63 pct
    7/9/2011 55 oz/hr 75deg 65 pct
    7/10/2011 54 oz/hr 80 deg 80pct
    7/24/2011 62 oz/hr Start 74.3deg 87%
    End 89.6deg 53% HI 95.2
    7/30/2011 57 oz/hr start 76deg/85%
    less FTP work end 93deg/47% HI 100
    7/31/2011 47 oz/hr start 76deg / 89%
    ABP-ride end 87deg / 61% HI 95
    8/13/2011 66oz/hr start 92deg / 56% / HI 102.8
    end 81deg / 84% / HI 86.2
    8/20/2011 55oz/hr start 80deg / 100%
    end 87deg / 68% / HI 97
    6/2/2012 55.6 84deg
    6/10/2012 62.9 77deg/100%
    7/13/2013 36.4 70deg/100%
    7/14/2013 47.8 75/72
    7/28/2013 43.7 73 --- 85 / ~90%
    8/18/2013 43.6 73/94 -->73/82

    Bottom line - I dont' think your numbers are at all out of the norm.

  • Thanks Joe. Also helpful. I'm going to have to start practicing drinking if I want to have any chance of closing in on the suggested OZs!
  • You can only drink these volumes if you're riding in Z2/3.  If you're in Z4, you will have trouble keeping it down!  Goal is to come off the bike not dehydrated (tanked up), cuz it's also much harder to drink much volume while running.  I find that in Z2 (and low Z3), it's not really all that hard to drink 50oz/hr.  It's harder to remember to drink regularly for me.  I use the auto lap feature on my Garmin to remind me.  Some people set reminders on devices for every 5-10 minutes, etc.  Just have to figure out what works for you, and then do THAT on race day and not something different or that you haven't tried.  

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