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My fancy new tri bike, ordered at Christmas, is finally at the LBS being assembled.  Yay!



My first HIM is in 5 weeks.  Yikes!



Given that I’ve never ridden a tri bike before, do I have time to get settled in on this bike? I’ve got to learn to ride aero, dial in the fit, adapt the muscles.  Or do I ride my road bike?



I’m a beginner (1 season sprint/oly), tending toward the fat, slow, geezer side.  My goal for this race is to have fun, learn things, and hopefully finish.  It would definitely be more fun to ride the new bike, but not if it messes up the run.

What do you think?

Harry

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  • Posted By Harry Morris on 20 Feb 2014 03:40 PM


    My fancy new tri bike, ordered at Christmas, is finally at the LBS being assembled.  Yay!



    My first HIM is in 5 weeks.  Yikes!



    Given that I’ve never ridden a tri bike before, do I have time to get settled in on this bike? I’ve got to learn to ride aero, dial in the fit, adapt the muscles.  Or do I ride my road bike?



    I’m a beginner (1 season sprint/oly), tending toward the fat, slow, geezer side.  My goal for this race is to have fun, learn things, and hopefully finish.  It would definitely be more fun to ride the new bike, but not if it messes up the run.

    What do you think?

    Harry

    You have time, get on it!

    • Ride to Encanto, then down the bike path in your aerobars.
    • Go back and forth on the dam, riding on the white line with out looking at it too much. Bike should be tracking in a straight line, not moving side to side. 
    • Repeat as often as necessary 
  • x2. You got a shiny new toy, ride it!

    It usually takes me 3-4 weeks at the start of the season for my neck to stop hurting in aero when I switch back to my tri bike. Get it fit right away and start riding it. Depending on what type of bike it is (how easy it is to adjust), you might have them fit you with the bars a little higher (less drop) and then lower them down a bit in a couple months (after your first race). This is a less aggressive/less aero starting position, but will likely be a better spot for you to transition into the new tri position, coming from a road bike.

    And don't forget to put pics of your new machine in the Bike Porn thread!

  • Posted By Harry Morris on 20 Feb 2014 03:40 PM


    ... My goal for this race is to have fun, learn things, and hopefully finish. ...

    You won't learn anything for future tris by riding your road bike in the HIM. Get a good fit, and start riding on your shiny new steed. There's no short cut to the settling in process, but you might as well start now. Best way to not booger your run is to ride conservatively; see the EN bike execution pages in the wiki, and follow the precepts like a novitiate.

    http://members.endurancenation.us/R...nman 

  • Excellent, thanks for the advice.  It's what I wanted to hear, not what I expected to hear!

    Harry

  • Also, Oceanside is a fast course. The first ~28 and last ~15-20 miles are flat and fast, with a good chance of wins so you definitely want to be aero. 

  • I transitioned from road bike only to tri bike about a year ago.  I found it a little "uneasy" feeling for the first few rides....nothing major though.  I would avoid high-traffic areas, but Rich has given you some specifics.  Also, be careful about applying the front brakes too hard (eg....car turns in front of you unexpectedly and you over-react and get out of aero on the horns and "grab" the brakes....land on your head and break your clavicle....).  You are going to be sitting a little more forward on the bike and it's easier to go over the front wheel (IMHO and experience!). 

    I agree, though, you have plenty of time to transition and will ultimately enjoy the comfort of long rides in aero compared to long rides in the drops on a road bike.  My neck is the thing that takes the longest to "strengthen" when I go back to tri bike.  But, it adapts after a few weeks in my experience.  Enjoy and post pics!

     

  • I transitioned from road bike only to tri bike about a year ago.  I found it a little "uneasy" feeling for the first few rides....nothing major though.  I would avoid high-traffic areas, but Rich has given you some specifics.  Also, be careful about applying the front brakes too hard (eg....car turns in front of you unexpectedly and you over-react and get out of aero on the horns and "grab" the brakes....land on your head and break your clavicle....).  You are going to be sitting a little more forward on the bike and it's easier to go over the front wheel (IMHO and experience!). 

    I agree, though, you have plenty of time to transition and will ultimately enjoy the comfort of long rides in aero compared to long rides in the drops on a road bike.  My neck is the thing that takes the longest to "strengthen" when I go back to tri bike.  But, it adapts after a few weeks in my experience.  Enjoy and post pics!

     

  • Hey Harry,

    I would suggest a Jim Manton fit right away. The guy is a genius and has fit most of our club and half the pro peloton. He will get you dialed in. Then just ride on the path. The bike is a little "twitchy" because it is a race horse and your roadie is more for "around town". But the transition is easy once you get comfortable with your weight out front.

    Also - What did you get and when can I see it?

    FYI - I moving back into my TT bike right now and would be happy to take a little ride with you. We are both doing Oceanside as well.... image
  • Hey Dino.

    Jim's not only a genius, he's also about the most friendly guy I know. I got a pre-purchase tri fit from him, and I'll take the bike in to him for fine tuning once I've ridden it for a week or so. He suggested Speed Concept, and I've got a good relationship with Pasadena Cyclery, so that's what I went with. They're still putting it together, but I hope to have it next week. I'll let you know and you can come see it, and we can go for a ride!
  • I also recommend just practicing switching between aero and upright to make sure you can do that without thinking. I also had to "re-learn" being comfortable reaching back into my jersey to grab something. I recently went through all this and I was comfortable with just a few rides. After 3 weeks or so I was able to stay in aero for 3 hours. Jim was totally right, you will actually hate being upright and the aero position ends up being the comfortable position.
  • Ah, yes... The pleasures of a "super bike". Both the P5 and the SC require a certain amount of care, thought and time to assemble properly.... You will love it!
  • @ Harry... I agree with all the great advice below.  Get on that new SC rocket and get use to it.  I have a SC and love it.  I feel more comfortable in aero than sitting up.  One suggestion...if you do planks, make sure you keep your head up looking forward, don't look down.  this will help those neck muscles get ready for the aero position.

  • Posted By Peter Noyes on 21 Feb 2014 06:12 PM


    I also recommend just practicing switching between aero and upright to make sure you can do that without thinking.
    YES DO THIS!!! You should be able to get both hands simultaneously from the aerobars to the base bars and back without any shakiness.


  • Here she is!  I got in an 80min ride today, almost completely in aero.  Managed to build up some confidence, going really slowly around and around the Rose Bowl.  



    Lots more to learn - like how the heck you drink on one of these things!

     

  • @Harry, that's a freakin ninja bike! Nice!
  • @ Harry....ooohhh.  Man.....that is REALLY nice.  Jealous.  

  • @ Harry....be sure you put that pic in the bike porn thread.  

  • Nice ride.  See you out on the course at Oceanside...probably as you pass me on that rocketship!

  • Damn I love bike porn! That is beautiful! Well done, sir. Nicely played!
  • That looks great all in Black. Very Nice.
  • Damn Harry! That is a SWEET looking ride. Mmmmmmmm bike porn!
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