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2014 Week #9 RUN THREAD

Welcome back to those who survived test week. 

We're switching gears a little this week and moving on to the VO2 run workouts of the OS. You have your new zones now and right off the bat get to use your ZONE 5 (yikes) paces for these. I would suggest that you absolutely consider the podcast this week a must-listen. Coach P explains what exactly the VO2 stuff is all about, why you may find yourself able to overachieve these, and whether you SHOULD or not. Take the 4+ minutes to catch up on his words of wisdom. 

I love reading all of your postings about workouts and questions. Remember that getting the most out of this team includes you making the effort to put your questions and updates out there for the team to chime in on. We're all here to help you be your best!

Happy VO2 Running!

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  • Hello Kori, do you have a link to the pod cast mentioned? Thanks!
    Dawn
  • Hi Dawn!
    If you are looking at your training page (Training Plan --> My Plan), there is a link to each week's podcast in the top right hand corner of your screen. There's a new one for each week of your training plan. Let me know if you have trouble finding it!
  • The second of my 2-week run/walk ramp-up to get me back into running post-injury. The intervals are now up to 3.5' run / 1.5 walk and I won't refer to this workout in quotes because it's starting to feel like real running again. No ankle pain while running although the ankle pain in general is still there when making specific motions so (a) interested to see what the doctor says when I see her next week and (b) a bit apprehensive about next week when I'll start (slowly) ramping up into the real running workouts and getting off the treadmill and onto regulat ourdoor surfaces.

    Paces for my 3.5' run intervals felt good:
    7:26
    7:20
    6:54
    6:56
    6:32
    6:31

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/454842298
  • @ Matt...good progress!
  • Dibbs on Matts "injured" run paces!

    Staying 1 day ahead of schedule I did the VO2 intervals tonight except I managed 8 x 440 at Z5 pace. I ran 6.55 miles total but apart from the intervals all the rest was jogging.
  • Got the 25' in.  Looking forward to some 400's tomorrow.  They won't be that fast relatively speaking but I'm really wanting to tackle that run.  We will see how I feel Thursday after this post. 

  • Sorry I went incognito for the better part of a week. Took my kids to their big swim meet for the season...four days of prelims and finals, watching the black line. Fortunately, no school missed.

    Only an ironman athlete can think watching a 1650 swimming race (66 laps...) is exciting...or at least someone with a kid who's pretty good at it. Watching the slow surges and occasional sprint finishes in a race like that is surprisingly similar to a marathon or tri...even though it only takes as long as a 5K.

    Anyway, I'm basically back to the grindstone here except I ended up having to flip Monday and Tuesday. So today was 4 x 1.5 miles at HMP/TP effort with ~600 m recoveries. Worked out that they were at 6:23, 6:15, 6:20, 6:22. 10 miles total.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/455380215
  • 400s done! Before I toot my own horn, 400=.25 miles, correct? Weather was milder than I had feared, track was clear of ice, so I was able to do the workout. Was pretty consistent, although they did hurt, so I need to get a bit smarter about early packing. Unfortunately, have to go to an early meeting, so no time to extend the workout, just 35 minutes. But I'm just glad to get a solid run in!
  • @ Kate yes 400=.25, 402.X m so you over distanced it.  For some reason it's actually hard to find a treadmill in km up here so that's what I use as well.

    Got my 4X400 in at 9:50 and the last 2 @ 9:40.  I did not want to push it any further today as it seems I switched a back for a knee pain. 

  • @Gordon, take care of the knee!

    Run finished on the TM today. 6 X 400 with 1/2 mile rest intervals. Hit Z5 goal for all intervals. I added on another 1.5 miles at just above MP for a total of just over 8.

    Can anyone tell me what the guidance is on these Wednesday VO2 runs regarding the "remainder" time? I finished the main set around 45 minutes into the run. Previously on Wednesdays the plan said to run as much time as possible at Z2 but it didn't have any guidance for today's run and I looked ahead at the remaining Wednesday runs and didn't see any guidance on those days either. Thanks.
  • Thanks, got it!
  • @Doug, great question and hope someone knows as I was thinking the same thing!!
  • 400's done, was a nice change.......and got some grind time in after....
  • OK    I'll see if I deserve a chewing out tomorrow after Bike....

    But I 'couldn't' help going faster....really!    (My excuse is I have a 2 mile run test at end of month....)

    So after the usual WU all @ 1.5%

    VDOT 42= Z5 7:28=TM 8mph "Classic" Z5c=7:06 @8.5mph    and...I really wana run ~13:00 on APFT....

    So I used the 8.5

    4X .25mls with 0.25 jog RI -seemed to long so next 2 RIs 1/4 lap....

    Again...not my fault....couldn't help but "Add" another 0.5miles at the 8.5mph -which was fast but doable w/o strain HR finally into low Z5

    Garmin FP puts these @ 6:15-30 pace actually

    Then did 30" GRP with a few min at 4% and 6%@ GRP

    1:10 total time   then some ABBs

    Yesterdays bike was uncomfortable @ new Z4, New VO2 little change so ....5 min though.....well see!

  • Got the run done on the TM today. Ran the first two at vdot pace minus a few seconds (to get close to pace on TM) and then the last two *cough too fast but I couldn't help it* about 12" faster than the first two. A teammate I don't usually see ended up on the mill next to me and my break was a bit long between 3 and 4. image I focused on good form as Coach P prescribed. And added a couple miles at z2 pace at the end.

    I just wish I ran as fast as my food pod says I'm running! image
  • 400's done and man, the legs are feeling it now!  Remainder of my time at z2.  55 min. total

     

  • Oh my Kate-I feel silly but glad you clarified. I did 4 x .5mi or I guess 4x800 @Z5 (7:57). It felt really good today too:

    7:54
    7:55
    7:48
    7:56

    I spent all day last saturday at a local chi running clinic lead by Danny Dreyer himself, with four of his trained coaches as assistants-40 students. I am not a beginner to the material but it was an excellent refresher on all the form focuses and just fun to hear it all from the leader himself. I bought a new metronome ( last one I bought at my first class my goofy doberman ate a few years ago; he also ate my bevel faced garmin which forced me to upgrade to the 910). I am using his 'waltz' timing with it set at 60 so it beats every third step. I really was able to focus on breathing and keep my strides 180/min. Tuned up some of my other focuses-at z5 I really don't feel my legs (which is what he teaches) , i am only limited by my almost 60 yo VO2 capacity. As a follow up our local instructor is going to be videoing me saturday. I've said it before-highly recommend this!!
  • Felt good today in my second-to-last "run walk" workout. I'm up to 4' run / 1' walk so really it's a legit workout at this point. I just bought a pair of Zoot TT 6.0 shoes for treadmill workouts since historically I've done most of my mill workouts in lighter shoes to get my feet used to them. They felt awesome...much smoother than the KSwiss I used to wear. I also have some other pairs to try so I'll be interested to see how they go. Mancona keeps trying to convince me to race in the Kiawe 2.0's so I'll give those a spin later as I get close to race season. Ah, race season, hard to believe I'd be looking forward to that based on my workouts in the past 6 weeks...

    Paces for my 4' run intervals...this time I kept it steady after the first 2:
    7:35
    7:14
    6:52
    6:50
    6:51
    6:49

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/455896019
  • @Matt, welcome back to running, keep up the good work!

    A little over 4 EZ miles on the TM this morning. Even at the end of the run my legs felt dead from the previous 2 days work. During the run I was questioning how the bike was gonna go down later in the day!
  • After 3 days of intensity it felt good to ease up today.

    AM - 45 mins weights in the gym
    PM - 8 miles slow jog
  • @Paul, only an EN athlete can say an 8 mile jog is easing up!
  • 25' run in today and this became my day off as I did not get the bike in.  I also found out I'll be going in this Saturday due to workload so only 1 day to sleep in I need to get to bed earlier now for sure.

  • Today was one of my peak temp runs...12 mi total with 8 mi at tempo. At the beginning, I just didn't really want to do it. A couple of miles in, I learned why. Major GI issues. ugh. Took a much needed nature break right near the end of the initial 4 miles....several minute break...before starting the quick part. The last 2-3 miles of the run were pretty hard. Not devastating or anything, but hard.

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/456345089

    4 easy mi, than the rest (8) averaging just under 6:35. Couple quick stops for gatorade. 12.16 mi total average 7:00 min/mi (moving pace)

    Last year, I ran 2 half marathons at just under 90 minutes. One more mile at 6:3X would have been hard but doable here, and would have put me about 1:31:40. Think if I actually raced a half now in decent weather, I'd be quicker than last year...maybe a couple minutes.

  • Last run/walk in my "return to run" program!!! Almost out of "run jail"!!! Of course it will take some time to rebuild speed and endurance, but I'm making progress. Today was 4.5' run / 30" walking. That's almost as good as a 30' run in my books!

    Paces for my 4.5' run intervals...I kept it steady after the first 2:
    7:42
    7:22
    6:55
    6:54
    6:52
    6:48

    http://connect.garmin.com/activity/456530317
  • I just had to post today - I am so ecstatic. I jogged 4 miles today in 32:12 (not to mention I did the 1st 5k in 24:12). And all this after I killed it on the bike today - 20 miles and above target the whole way on TR. I cannot believe I did my first 5K TT back in September at just over 32'.

    I am right around my race weight when I was doing short course tri 5 years ago (-245#). And my run pacing is right back on target as well. Can't wait to see what the last 5 weeks of the OS brings. Still working to get to my 220# race weight for this season.

    My one on one swim coaching starts Monday. Once I can get those swim numbers down, I can really start rocking and rolling.

    Just want to give the EN Nation as shout out. I feel like I am so much more prepared and the training is so much more effective than when I did tri the first time around. Thanks everybody!

  • That's awesome Thomas! Keep up the great work and keep posting to let us know what's going on!
  • @Thomas...great news.  Congrats!!

    @ Matt...almost recovered!

  • @Matt Great!  Id need those 30" RI's to do that many run intervals at that pace anyway image

    SUN run was to be today...and Start of Marathon Prep Hack. (was planning a fusion of OS and "Balanced Marathon" starting this weekend) but the food poisoning I had last night really nocked me down (literally ....fainted going to bathroom last night and hit face on bathtub) Have rehydrated well enough by mouth to avoid an ER visit and feel 90% normal by now (still down 7lbs) so I think I'll skip today.

    Just have to decide If I do a EZ run tomorrow if weather says good or the planed bike (was planning on stretching it out to 2-3hrs.....)

    I'll see how I feel I guess (and if I've recovered my hydration/electrolytes)

  • @ Matt good to hear the run jail is finished.

    @Thomas excellent work.

    I got in 30' run today

  • @David, feel better, food poisoning is awful.

    After a good bike ride this morning I rested for a few hours including a nap and then did the run on the TM. A little over 7 miles including 4 at MP.
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