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W'-Plain English Definition?

I asked Google, but must have used bad words.  W' is cycle code for anaerobic work capacity--the number of matches in the matchbook. (Match = trip over FTP).  if W'=10, what does that mean?  How does that number relate to FTP?  Thus, if someone's FTP=100, and their W'=19, is that the same as someone with a 200 FTP and a W' of 19?  Are they in the same shape?

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  • It's an interesting concept. Seems tailor made for a bike racer, who must fend with surges and short sharp hills during the course of a mulrti-hour event. But how is it of value to a long-course triathlete, who must avoid at all costs burning ANY matches - meaning, trips over FTP are asking to walk on the run?

    The first coach I had for IM said, "Each minute anaerobic on the bike equates to 3 minutes longer on the run." The risk might not even be with going over FTP; it is probably also present with any time spent more than about 10% above one's target IF. Meaning, if you're shooting for an IF of 0.7, avoid going any higher than 0.77.

  • @Chris
    As you say, W' you refer to is the amount anaerobic work you can do before exhaustion while operating at that anaerobic intensity. It is as Al T suggests, of no value for a long course triathlete because by definition we never race at those intensities.
    BTW, it is W' that we seek to clear with the 5 min part of our 5/10/20 power testing protocol — if we didn't do the 5 min test, the 20 min test would overestimate your FTP (that is when taking 95% of the 20 min test would be higher than your FTP because W' would have contributed to the work done in the 20 min test)..
  • I actually hadn't ever heard of the "W'" term but assumed it was likely related to AWC and Google confirmed it for me. I haven't read through this article in detail so I can't vouch for it's accuracy but it appears to be a good explination and discussion of W', which is indeed the same as AWC That I was already familiar with.



    http://cyclingcenterdallas.com/crit...apacity-w/

    EDIT - just noticed who the author is - safe to consider this reliable info.

  • Two thoughts (OK -- three thoughts)

    1.  Still don't get it.  I don't understand what exactly it measures.  In other words, how do you read your power data to figure out how many matches you have, what a "match" is, and how many you burned?

    2.  @ Al--the way I look at this is as perhaps a safety net.  Suppose you have two tri guys: one with a large AWC and one without.  Both have the same FTP (and weigh the same). If race execution suffers, I was wondering if the one with the larger AWC has more margin for error--in otherwords, while going anaerobic is a bad idea, wouldn't the guy who could go into the red 19 times (19 matches) be better off on the run than the one with 5 matches?  In other words if (and that's a big if) I understand it correctly, the question is whether AWC provides a margin of error for less than perfect race execution.  I gotta say that since starting w/EN, I've gotten much better; the VI on my intervals now on the trainer are always 1.00 or really close, and on the road are not over 1.02 or 3.  But I'm still worried.

  • Found this and thought it was pretty good...
    http://physfarm.com/new/?page_id=563
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