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Getting the Band Back Together

OK,

So it is May and I miss my support group.  Yeah, I have moved on and done a HIM already this year and I have my Full on for October but both were races without a dedicated group and I am still going to race some Short course Races this summer so Let's get the band back together.

Joe, , David, Jim, Kim, I know you are still out there.  I am in the Bike focused plan for now and switch to Get faster before hitting my IM plan so I want to hang here.  I know that lots of the SC folks from last year are doing longer races too but don't let the magic die...

OK, probably a little overdramatic. Just wanted to get things going.

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  • Sounds good. This is my first post-OS seaso. I am also doing SC leading up to my forat HIM in September. I have my first OLY on 5/31 and have one on 6/21, and 7/26. I am also going into Get Faster 6/1 and then Bike Focused. What do we need to fo to get it set up? I would be willing to assist.
  • @Ralph! Ok - but I will be out of the net like the whole month of June. Daughter gets married 14 June in Concord, NC then I go to Garmisch, Germany to teach for a week then a week vacation.

    I'm in Short Course Week #9 and will end week #20 with the Sprint Nationals in Aug. I'm trying to do like Jim Sumara did last year and see what happens in the age up process for 55-59 AG. After that - I'll reassess and maybe do a HIM in the fall.

    If you start it - I'll chime in! I did a sprint Tri today and must have lost 30 sec trying to get my garmin turned on so I could get my powertap going. Now I have learned that I should turn the auto-off off so I can leave transition for the swim and not hassle with it! Still learning!
  • @ Thomas You don't need to do anything but check this forum and post at will. Joe held us to a routine last year with his insights and thread management, with his assistance when available, I will just try to live up to that standard.

    @Joe, great news about the wedding, Hope you like him. Concord is not too far from us and it is a nice town. Travel safely.

    Sat bike went well, Z5 15x 1 min is painful but less than it used to be. I did my first interval run yesterday 3 weeks after my HIM. Make that 3 weeks, 3 job interviews, 3200 miles in the car, and one bear of a cold after my HIM. It hurt and I faded on the last interval but we got it done. My main short term goal now is to find a decent powertap on e-bay for $450-500.

    Kim, I know you are out there, come back. You know that you love it here with the SC folks.
  • I am in! I only have one, maybe two sprints in me for this year, as I am still battling plantar fasciitis. I was ready for therapy after the SC forum came to a close last season. I joined EN last July, and did my final race under the EN flag. Your support, guidance and wisdom is the best!

    Woo hoo!
  • Thanks for gettin it goin Ralph.

    I am in - back to back sprints 5/31 & 6/7 - then Philly Oly end of June - another sprint in July - then AG Nationals Oly - before work towards Princeton 70.3 on 9/21. Currently on SC Wk #16 - but really just started to push the run paces in last 3 weeks. I've been on a 7 month journey of rehab w/left hip - so I progress in fits & stages.
  • I am a short course guy this year.  

    I completed a sprint duathlon last month and an olympic triathlon this past weekend.

    I will be in the Chattanooga Waterfront Olympic Triathlon next month and Ironman Augusta in September.

  • Hi folks,
    I am SC until the end of June when I am doing Pacific Crest Olympic distance. Plan had been to do the HIM but foot issues have prevented running for a month so I am planning on doing the shorter course. Then I will do my 70.3 in August come hell or high water.
    Looking forward to some short course spirit.
    David
  • I'm in. This is my first season. I start with a Grand Fondo next weekend, then into two sprints . One in July and then September. Might up grade to an Oly for the September. We'll see. There's a scheduling issue to work out. 

    Looking forward to having all your wise and wonderful brains to pick.  Been a little lonely since the OS ended. Thanks for the group! 

  • @Ralph and Elizabeth - I sent a request to Brenda Ross to announce that forum is up in the next EN e-mail update. I also sent e-mails to those that participated in our forum last year (yes, you got one from me) in hopes they will drop in when they can. Having a WSM like William Jenks show up is always good!

    Looks like I will see some EN'er teammates at the USAT National's this summer! I'm doing the Sprint on Sunday and then take a break and figure out the second half of season then!

    Yes Ralph - those 15 X 1' @Z5 are hard and although I am in SC Week #9, it is paying off!
  • I'm in ... big time. Thanks Ralph for kick starting this forum and Joe for the heads-up.
    All my races this year are of the short variety.  I'm currently in SC week 18 and I'm feeling it ... I have my first Duathon 2-20-2 (its a "C" race) this Saturday and my legs are pretty dead. A week later is my first Sprint Triathlon.  I'll have to back off some in the next few days so I can function on Saturday.
  • First question right out of the gait. I have a Grand fondo 113miles, 7000+ feet of gain.  There's a 5.3 mile 7-11% time trial hill climb about mile 40. Most of the climbing is done in the first 40 miles. Then it flattens out for @30miles but the chip seal is poor. Not sure how often i'll be able to use my arrow bars.  I'm a heart rate rider.

    My question is, how do you pace this? This is a race. Not a Saturday ride with friends. There is a large amount of on course nutrition.

    Thanks everyone.

  • @all - Thanks for the interest. Last summer the Short Course forum was a place for folks to check in between longer races and when they were not in a specific race group. Please feel free to drop in and hang out even if you are in a race-specific group. The number of SC events and the sheer variety is always interesting to follow and it is always fun to see how some of our rockstar teammates do in the Nationals and other big events.



    Things we like in the SC forum : honest feedback, race reports of your events, supportive and helpful comments. Feel free to post your workout results and what plan you are in on any given day.



    @elizabeth - lots of good info on plantar fasciitis in the medical forum. Be sure and keep up the stretching.



    @Jim - Great to see you back. Looks like an exciting summer for you. I look forward to hearing the results.



    @Cousin Jacklyn I am certainly not an expert on pacing that type of event but I would think that it would be similar to IM pacing in the wiki. Do you have a power meter or are you a HR athlete? that will change how you execute also.



    @pete, good luck with the hip and the races. Looks like a busy summer.



    @ Don, great to see you, that is a solid schedule you have lined up. Nice to see another southern boy in the house.



    @David, Smart to rest that foot and get it healed up so it doesn't mess up the rest of the year. You can hang out here even after the end of June, we are a fun bunch.



    @Jim Great to see you. I am anxious to see how you do with all of your events, be sure and post your results!



    @Cousin Jacklyn - I am certainly not an expert on that type of event but I would suggest checking out the Race execution guides in the Wiki. Since you are a HR athlete, I would imagine that the guidelines would be similar for an IM. I would be interested in what more experienced road bikers have to say on this.

    My Bike Focused Ride this AM was 2 x 20 min at FTP and I did OK on the first interval but faded in the middle of the second interval only to rally at the end.  I looked back to essentially the same workout at the end of OS and I have some work to get back to there.  Just getting over this cold did not help and my HR was up a bit.  Swim / Run tomorrow.

  • So this morning I did a mini Run-Bike-Run workout in prep for my sprint race this weekend. I'd say I was just a bit rusty. The prep included a transition area outside my garage. And while last year I was pretty quick on my transitions, this morning I was anything but. The only thing Quick was ... "How Quickly We Forget" … At T1 I had trouble getting my helmet on ... Then on the way into T2,  I completely forgot to take my feet out of my tri bike shoes … so I had to circled around and do it again .. .then before exiting in T2 I forgot to put on my running cap.  Clearly I need to spend some time just doing transitions … but I don’t intend to polish the R-B-R too much as the following weekend I have my first Sprint Tri and I’ll need to work the Swim-Bike-Run Transition. It never ends - but that's what I love about this sport .... its always an adventure.
  • Well did my A race prep ride today to test nutrition and fluid plan. Did ok. Bucked a nasty headwind/sidewind that kept trying to blow me off the road for 58 miles. Ya baby! Need to increase my fluid intake. Thought I was drinking enough but I only peed once.  The increased work load of the wind dried me out more than planned. 

    Paced using heart rate. Most of the ride maintained 120-130's. Bumped up twice into the 150's due to 2 nasty long climbs. Total climbing was 2700+ feet. Average speed with wind 13.7 mph. Not too bad. I think with minor corrections i'm ready for 113 miles of suffer. 

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks everyone!!!!!

  • @Jim - last year I tried to put my bike jersey on after putting my helmet on. Compared to that you are looking good.

    @Jacklyn - be sure and use the nutrition calculator in the wiki to get your nutrition plan dialed in and also check to make sure you are training with the same nutrition available on the course of your race. Don't want any surprises.

    I am still at work at 9:30 PM, gonna hit it hard tomorrow.
  • Still at work at 10:45 PM. This work thing is cutting into my training schedule.
  • I'm SC for another week and a half til my one and only sprint for the year. Then I switch over to get faster for a few weeks before ramping up for a half. I'm a relatively new EN member and this is something of a switch for me, but it's been a good experience so far.

    This past weekend I did a race rehearsal brick. Didn't quite hit my watts on the open rode, but managed to aver over 21mph with training wheels on the bike. Crushed the 3 mile run by hitting my zone 5 average, so overall, I was pleased.

    My watts on the bike yesterday were a little low, but still in zone 4 for a 3x8' set. Hoping to see something better in the morning.

    Swim is nothing spectacular. I've spent the last three weeks doing nothing but drills from the first part of the swim e book. I swam 3x500 today and the numbers weren't that great. I think I'm going to dig in to the next part of the book after my next race and see if some of the propulsion and pull drills help.
  • @ Joe Schmitt. sounds like a good Plan. feel free to hang out here when you Change to the set faster Plan since there is no forum for that.
  • @ Cousin Ralph- Are you still doing the body comp? Or are you starting to focus less on calories d/t the increased work load? Trying to decide if I should keep going the weight loss or focus more on recovery. It's such a fine line between to much and not enough. DId you grow up in SC? My husbands family has been in SC since the Revolutionary war. Maybe we are cousins.

  • @Jacklyn - Clearly Cousins! I admit I have not followed my weight quite as closely since my HIM April 19. I ended up out of town for job interviews a lot and with my daughter's graduation and prom and blah, blah, blah... I am steady on at 205 but not making any progress toward my goal of 200. In the last 2 weeks of Bike focused and starting Get Faster before starting my IM plan in Aug for Beach to Battleship in October.

    I plan to do my first sprint of the year on the 19th of June and then every 3 weeks over the summer in Charleston.

    Yes, I did grow up in SC but my family is from VA and TN. Looking at jobs in NC and TN so things could change. Note that I did not claim the Body Comp badge for my sig line because of my tepid results image
  • @All - enjoying reading all the posts! I never seem to manage my time well at work and like Ralph, find myself staying late and then trying to figure out how to get to bed early to wake up early, blah, blah,...

    @Ralph - good luck on the job hunt. I've lived in Charlotte and in Olive Branch, MS just south of Memphis. Both great areas I've tried to get back to!

    I'm in week #9 and this morning I thought, "you know, it seems like a test week is coming up, I better check". Lo and behold, week #10 is test week. So, I have a local 41K TT next weekend I'll use and I'll figure out over the weekend when to schedule to swim and run test. Since Monday is the swim test and is Memorial Day, I'll probably throw it in Thursday at work and use Tuesday for my run test. Test week is harder on me than a regular tri!



  • @Joe, speaking of test week, I haven't done a bike test since the end of NOS and I went on my first group ride with a buddy and a friend of his today. I finished with 44 miles but I had almost 2 hours in HR Z5-6. Since I was able to do that , to me it means my HR monitor has issues or I need to reset my HR zones with a bike test. I felt fine afterwards and pulled about half of the time. I picked 2 random 20 min sections and ran my numbers just to ballpark my HR zones and it looks like I need to be pushing harder in my solo rides.

    In the words of Mario Andretti "If everything feels under control then you are not going fast enough"
  • @Ralph - @Z5-6? My mental capacity only goes to Z5. Z6 to me means, "I quit, I'm done, not fun anymore". Whatever Z6 is, if you are in it, you are pretty tough.

    Today was the Sunday run interval workout of 2 X 200, 3 X 1000, then 2 X 200 at @Z5. In the rain and drizzle. At least it was about 75, but miserable. Only consolation was that it wasn't last weekend when I was doing a local sprint triathlon doing 40+MPH down this monster hill. I hit 609 watts going up it at about 10mph. In the rain, I might've had too much slippage to get up it and not even had the chance to come down!

    So, the rain and drizzle wasn't so bad after all. Done and now to kick back!
  • @Joe - that is one reason I thing my monitor might be wonky. image
  • I kicked of my season on Saturday with a 2-21-2 Duathlon. I finished 41st overall and 1st in AG. I did the 1st 2 mi run in 13:39, the 21mi bike in 55:37 (22.3 mph avg) and the 2nd 2 mi run in 14:33. And the best part, it was finally a beautiful day here in SE Wisconsin! I did not taper much as this was a C race so my legs were a little dead. Oh, and the transitions were better than my early attempts last week.

    Happy Memorial Day everyone. Thinking of my dad who was a WW II vet and a great patriot.
  • 5 days until my Grand Fondo. I am so nervous! I'm riding with some seriously fast ENers. I hope I can keep up and not blow up. 

    Today my daughter is competing in her first tri! They will even have timed transitions. She's so excited. Have a great holiday. Be safe guys. 

  • @ Jim Nice work! 7:16 pace to finish is strong!

    @ cousin Jacklyn Ride your race using your race plan of what you have proven that you can do and you will do fine
  • Well it's done and in the bag! The Oregon Gran Fondo has been completed. 120 miles of hard work. When they advertised it as Oregon's hardest ride they weren't kidding. 

    The first 50 miles were great. Fast  steady riding. Awesome climbs with great, fast technical descents. Reached speeds upwards 45+. It was great until mile 45 when the road opened up a can of woop ass on us. 60 miles of cobblestone like chip seal and bike swallowing pot wholes. OMG! We were averaging 16 mpg until we hit that stuff. Our speed fell to 13.1 and never made it back. People were blowing tires like crazy. No mechanicals for us.  

    Then the cursed 80 mile black hole hit. Ouch. That was really tough. I put everything I had in the tank to make it home. When I rolled across the finish line I was one happy biker. I'm not sure I could have gone much further. What kept going through my mind as i'm struggling the last 15 miles is, " and then you want me to run!"  My friend who is a multiple IM had a really hard time too. The cobbles ate her up and spit her out as well. 

    What did I learn? That I have a deep well of grit, determination and flat out, balls to wall stubbornness! Without "work, works," i would not have been able to check this off my bucket list.  I am not ready for bike THEN run just yet.  Did I have fun? Yes.  

  • @jacklyn - awesome you! What an accomplishment!
  • @Jacklyn &Elizabeth You may already know this but the SC forum follows the same weekly format as the OS forums. So there won't be a lot of eyeballs here. We just started the week starting June 2
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