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I have a three year old Zoot full suit with several rips that must be mended. I am considering a new suit, but do not know if it is worth it. First, I am slooooow in the water. My IM swims are in the range of 1:44. I have taken private lessons from a coach that "focuses" on triathletes and was told my form was fine but my kick was weak. She wanted me to concentrate on my kick. As I do not want to tire my legs before riding 112 miles and running 26.2, I would prefer to look for improvement elsewhere. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

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  • I went with the desoto 2 piece. The speedtube and speed vest. I too am not a great swimmer but I sometimes will just wear the bottoms to help me out. The 2 piece also seems to come off faster for me than 1 piece. Unfortunately, we don't get the desoto discount any longer though.
  • DeSoto by far the best option for me, too.
  • I just got a Huub Aerious because I am a slow swimmer. I went with the 3:5 option. It has 3mm of neoprene in the upper body and 5mm in the legs lifting your legs a little higher like a pull buoy. There are a few other features I liked (quick release zipper among them) however it was getting those legs higher that was the real selling point. In the pool I average 2:12-14 per 100. I have worn the wetsuit once, in a sprint tri, and for the .36 miles I swam I averaged 1:34/100. That included a few breast strokes when I needed to get my heart rate down in the 58 degree water.
  • Re wetsuits, the key is to find one that fits and works with your stroke. If you fight it while swimming and/or it makes your shoulders burn more than normal, no go. Given your times, you should probably start by looking at the more buoyant ones designed to help body position, not the ultra-flexible ones designed for more elite swimmers. The good news is, the buoyant ones are cheaper.

    I'm more worried about the tri-specific swim coach who thought your 1:44-IM stroke looked fine and that you need to work on your kick. With that pace, I can almost guarantee that your answer is not: kick harder + new wetsuit. A good swim coach can find flaws in Michael Phelps' stroke. I'm a 1:00-05 IM swimmer, and every swim coach I've consulted with has told me I have to work on some pretty major flaws in my stroke and that I need to kick less.

    I would take an iPhone underwater video (with appropriate case) of your stroke, review it, then go review some of Coach R's video critiques of other swimmers' strokes. There's some great nuggets in there about position, rotation, catch, breathing, pull and kick that you can probably apply to your stroke. You can also post the video in these forums, where you're sure to find some constructive feedback.
  • X2 what mike said re: kick and swim coach feedback.

    I would look for a wetsuit that is a good fit for you so you don't feel too constricted. That was my prob w my first wetsuit. In order to not feel like an elephant was sitting on my chest, I had to size up and the legs were huge, which wasn't great for hydrodynamics!

    Good luck!
  • Mike's right … a strong kick is a good way to keep your body horizontal in the pool, but in a wetsuit tri? Not so much. EG, Coach R's IM swim is mid-50', and he uses a two beat kick, just to keep his body stabilized.

    Regards upper body feelings of constriction in a wetsuit - It's kinda like getting used to aerobars on a tri bike, with its geometry specifically designed for them. You;d be worse off if you put drop bars on a tri bike, just for "comfort", than if you rode a standard road bike. I've had suits that were a bit too loose in the shoulder/chest area. The water which normally coats the inside of a wet suit (that's why they're called "wet", as opposed to "dry", which lets in NO water) would fill up in my armpits,sloshing around and making things worse than swimming without the suit.

    If you've got a mismatch between your upper and lower body configurations, DeSoto solves than with the ability to pick a different size for tops and bottoms. I've used DeSoto for 10 years; warmer, more "flexible" from the point of view of how you actually swim, and faster to get off. I also use a DeSoto "speed tube" for my legs in the pool, kinda like a junior wet suit, which allows me to mimic in the pool swimming the way I would in a wet suit.

    Getting used to the feeling on "constriction" in a wetsuit is part of the game of tri, like getting used to riding in aerobars and running on deadened legs.

  • All - thank you for the input. I think I will patch up the Zoot and focus on improving my form. After I have a better understanding of my stroke (and my many flaws) I should be in a better position to get a wetsuit more suited to me. The DeSoto seems like it will be my best bet, but I think a new swim instructor and some video are the first steps.
  • I agree with others in general. You probably want a lot of buoyancy...but fit is the primary consideration. I once swam in a wetsuit that was too tight in the shoulders, and I can tell you that my wiped-out arms/shoulders were not happy about it the rest of my race. I really think that it caused a surprising general fatigue. I am a mediocre swimmer and I don't float. (I don't even float while wearing a wetsuit) So, to that extent, we're in the same boat...needing a buoyant suit...but the reason I am so pleased with the one I have is that the shoulders are flexible ON ME. (It does have thinner rubber near the shoulders.) I was able to buy my suit used at a very deep discount. I was careful about fitting charts and so one, and I knew that if I had to re-sell it I wouldn't take much of a loss, so I took the chance and bought one that sounded good from all the written descriptions and sizing charts...and I came out ok. If you have time, that may be a reasonable strategy. On the other hand, with unusual upper/lower body configurations, that's less likely to work out well.

    That said, of course technique is the way to make the biggest gains...for almost all of us.
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