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best head set for a Power meter

just wanted to get the teams input on a head set to read my new power meter from Quarg ala courtesy of coach rich

i have a 910xt which i love but just want  a product i can keep with the bike on those long boring rides without lifting my head or twisting my wrist to keep on track.. any input / suggestions or preference would be greatly appreciated

thanks 

James

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  • My vote is for the Garmin Edge 500. Small, easy to use, no firmware issues and IMHO despite all the newer models out now still the best one they've made to date.
  • x2 on Attila. 500 is bulletproof. Lots of people want to run their 510s over with a bulldozer.
  • I bought a Garmin 500 this year. I also have a Garmin 910xt and had been using it on my bike with the quick release system, which would be your least expensive option ~ $25. I found it a bit small and also almost lost it a couple of times after it "quick released" itself while on my wrist. My decision to go with the 500 was mostly based on price after dropping some coin on a new Quarq, but also the fact that it got great reviews from fellow EN'ers...as seen in above posts in this thread. I have had no issues at all..very easy to use, especially coming from the 910. The only complaint that I have is that it needs to be hard wired to my pc to upload the data...but really not a big deal. I just used it at IMLP in some pretty nasty weather conditions and it was rock solid throughout. Best part is that it can be had for under $200....I think I paid $180.
  • Love my 500 as well. Have had for 4 years and you can get them super cheap now.
  • + whatever on the 500. I've had mine since I broke my Joule at IMWI'11. It just works.

    Yes on the hardwire to the computer to download, but I'm generally about 5yrs behind on technology anyway . I dismount, press stop, come inside, toss my kit in the wash, shower, get a something to eat, plug it in, upload to Strava et al, done.

  • Im loyal to my Joule 2.0 x four years now. Garmin 500 users correct me if I'm wrong, but the online manual does not show ability to display NP. The Joule can show NP, IF, TSS, by both lap and total. 8 data fields displayed, ability to toggle between lap and total with ease. Elevation and % grade is via barometer, not GPS, IMO more accurate. ANT+ of course. Current price seems to be $1-200 used, $280 new.

    Like many items, the "upgrade" with GPS seems to have lost some features.

  • Posted By Al Truscott on 30 Jul 2014 09:57 PM


    Im loyal to my Joule 2.0 x four years now. Garmin 500 users correct me if I'm wrong, but the online manual does not show ability to display NP. The Joule can show NP, IF, TSS, by both lap and total. 8 data fields displayed, ability to toggle between lap and total with ease. Elevation and % grade is via barometer, not GPS, IMO more accurate. ANT+ of course. Current price seems to be $1-200 used, $280 new.



    Like many items, the "upgrade" with GPS seems to have lost some features.

    Al,

    The 500 does display NP. It does lap NP but not lap IF...which kinda sucks, I know. Pretty sure it doesn't do lap TSS. I likes my Strava segments too much to give up the GPS features. 

  • I love my Joule 2.0!
  • Let me toss my hat in the ring for the Garmin 510. I had used a 500 for yrs and love it. Then I got the 510 and love it more. So much so that even though I have a 500 sitting at home, I recently misplaced my 510 and was without it for 2 weeks (incl a RR and a couple of rides away from home). I cracked and just bought another 510 for $280 (new from eBay) because I don't want to race at IMMT without it. There are really only 4 differences between the 500 and the 510 (2 that are really useful).

    1) The 510 seamlessly talks with my phone. So the second I end a workout it automatically uploads to Garmin connect, which then automatically pushes to Strava and Trainingpeaks. I already get up at 4:45am to squeeze in my main sets before leaving for work around 6AM. I cut my T2 so short that it would be nearly impossible for me to spend the extra 1 minute to connect my 500 to a computer and wait for Garmin to upload the file. Also, if I ride away from home which I do many weekends, I need instant gratification of seeing my Strava file and with no computer at our trailer (can't upload the 500 with an iPad). It drove me crazy to wait until Sunday nights to upload my Sat and Sun rides. This is the SOLE reason my "ADD brain" must have the 510 over the 500.

    1a). Because it connects with my phone so well, I use the real-time tracking service now for every outdoor ride. This REALLY gives my wife peace of mind to be able to track me and know where I am when I'm gone for 5-6 hours. Her and the kids actually check in on my progress throughout my rides which they think is really cool (note, I bought a tiny extended battery for my phone on Amazon for less than $20 to do this because otherwise my phone battery was only good for ~3 hrs using this feature. Now it would work for 10+ hrs).

    2) it gives you 2 extra cells on the screen. Might sound trivial, but it's fun for me to have "Total ft of ascent" and "average speed" visible on my main screen (in addition to the real cells) while I'm training. Those 2 cells allow me to play games and create challenges for myself while I'm out there on my lonely 5-6hr rides.

    3) it seems as though it picks up the satellites slightly quicker than the 500 (which itself is pretty quick). It's just 4 yrs newer technology.

    4) one negative is that it is slightly bigger than the 510, but not so much that it really matters.

    I've not had any issues with my 510, but did have a couple of times when my old 500 would freeze up on my. Maybe it was just coincidence, but I found the 500 to be more reliable when I regularly cleared the history by deleting all of the old files. FWIW, I also do this on my Garmin watches.

    x2 on the quick release for the 910. I race with a 910 for the run. I have it snapped onto the quick release on my aerobar (because I don't like to swim with it) as a "backup" to my 510, just in case there is a problem. Then a few miles before the bike is over, I turn on my 910 and snap it onto my wrist so it's ready for when I start the run.

    If $$$ is your sole motivator, get the 500, it really does work great. If you are less $$$ sensitive and want to have the same bulletproof functionality AND the modern conveniences of Bluetooth then get the 510.
  • WOW, i guess i have just drank the Kool-aid or we all think alike. I love my Garmin 500 because it is SIMPLE!!!

    As for the quick release, i have heard and read stories of people losing their 910XT on the swim because it was not "firmly clipped" in or just came loose. Not 100% sure how it works, this is what i heard and read from folks. So it would scare the crap out of me to lose my $400 computer in the swim before i ever stepped foot on the bike.
  • I have the Garmin 810 and love it for a lot of the same reasons mentioned for the 500...just a later model. On top of the comments mentioned, I use Garmin connect all the time. Your friends/family can see where you are and how you are doing...really just a bit of fun however in case you get in trouble, they know exactly where you are!
  • You can also use the roadID ecrumb app for live tracking if you have a 500, it works well enough for me. http://www.roadid.com/ecrumbs

  • I'm a Joule 2.0 veteran and have not been given a reason to change yet.........
  • Well, I have to add that for doing intervals especially indoors I prefer the Joule 2.0 and until recently had both the Joule and 500 on my bike outside as well. I was using the Joule for ride metrics and the Garmin for Strava uiploads. What I like most about the Joule for intervals is the large display for Lap Time, 3s Pwr, Lap IF

    My recent conversion to the Garmin 500 only took some getting used to (no Lap IF) but now I find it much simpler. I've come to love being minimalist with realtime data. I want a small box (3 mi @ 9-10 min), nutrition reminder (15 min), current power and lap NP, period. Knowing the grade, temp, cadence HR etc may be nice but RPE tells me those things too. I don't have to try and read tiny numbers without glasses to let me know I am working hard going up a hill and mashing my gears.

    I only have 2 screens setup on the Garmin and rarely look at the second. Set to Auto lap @ 3 miles; Alert @ 15 for nutrition

    Main screen : Pwr 3s, Lap NP;
    Second screen: Ride time; Ride IF; Ride Miles

    Less is more.
  • I was a Joule 2.0 user for many years, but finally switched to the Garmin 510 last year. I love the simplicity of it. The only reason I chose it over the 500 is because I got a screamin deal on it.
  • I have an 810 and love it.. Not having to look at cue sheets anymore is the best. Although I do have to admit on rare occasions the turn-by-turn goes a bit screwy but overall it works great.
  • While we are on the subject....anyone have any experience with the new Magellan Cyclos? I can get them at a really good price and if there is interest could do a group buy.

    Specs look good and initial reviews are positive but haven't seen in person. They have all the same data capabilities as the 500/510 but with some nice navigation features and DI2 integration.

    http://www.magellangps.com/Store/Cyclo-Series
  • Love my Garmin 500!
  • Just to be clear, we are discussing "head units". A "headset" is a group of components that marry the steerer tube/ fork to the frame.

    That said, get the 510. You will pay a bit more for it than the 500, but in the long run Garmin will support it better.
  • I have an 800. While I love having the maps for some purposes, I find the display harder to read when I am using it for courses than the display of the simpler models (e.g., 500). The 500/510 just has a "breadcrumb" mapping, but that's REALLY easy to read for some random out-and-back route in unfamiliar territory. The Route function gives street names if you have the 800 and shows you parallel streets etc, if there is an error, but for plain, old reliability and readability, I sometimes wish I had the simpler one.
  • Question: can you have your Pm send data to a 910 and a 500 at the same time?

     I want to use  the 500  on the bike for the display but  download my data from the  910. can you do that?

  • do I need to do anything Special? or just pair the PM with both devices?
  • Nothing special needed. Your PM sends out a signal...any item that is paired with it will work. I have my PM paired to my 500 and 910 both. You can also have multiple PMs paired to each device. For example, i have a Quarq on my road bike and on my tri bike. Each are paired with both the 500 and 910.
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