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Is iPhone tracking legal?

My wife wanted me to get the more timely athlete tracking you can see with myathletelive.com for IM WI.  However, by the time I ordered, apparently they were sold out...or at least were nearing their max.  I got an order confirmation, but this morning got an email saying they weren't going to fulfill my order due to high demand.

As I look around the web, there is some disagreement about whether carrying (but not otherwise using) a smartphone for "Find my Friends" type tracking on the bike is ok or not.  I see some "no, never" quotes and some "if it's in your bento and not used, it's ok"...but nothing definitive.

Is there a recent and/or definitive ruling on this?

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  • I assume by "legal", you mean whether or not it is allowed in a race.

    From Jimmy Ricotello's statement at the start of the Ironman Athlete Guide:

    "Sorry, absolutely NO communication devices, MP3 players or other audio devices. (Yes, that means NO cell phones, Oakley ThumpsTM or Apple iPods&regimage."

    Since USAT competition rules apply in WTC events, he is presumably interpreting the relevant USAT rule: "Unauthorized Accessories. No participant shall, at any time during the event, use or wear a hard cast, headset, radio, personal audio device, or any other item deemed dangerous by the Head Referee. Any violation of this Section shall result in a variable time penalty."

    Sounds to me that, strictly speaking, no cell phone. But just as you could ask, what if I draft and get away with it, you could take along the iPhone, not "use" it, not be seen carrying it, and probably be OK. In violation of the rules as stated, but OK in terms of not receiving a penalty in an IM. 

    But in a non-WTC event, it seems more nuanced. Depends on what the meaning of "use" and "dangerous" are. On the one hand, it could be argued that sending out your location is "using" the device. On the other hand, if your involvement is totally passive, not putting yourself or others at risk on the course, and doesn't result in receiving any *physical assistance", well, the item can't be deemed "dangerous", and the intent of the rule is not broken, IMO. (Another USAT rule: "...The receipt of information regarding the progress, split times, or location of other competitors on the race course shall not be considered the acceptance of unauthorized assistance…")

    I don't have to worry about any of this, because I have a dumb phone.

  • Who cares if it's "legal"? If you are willing to schlep an iPhone all around the course, you probably don't care if it's "legal".

    Get a Garmin GTU-10, or borrow mine. I don't use it when racing, but use it for safety and other reasons when training many days.
  • Not much to schlep if you just drop it in a bento. Wasn't planning to carry on run of course..



    Somehow that Garmin gadget had escaped my notice. Looks like it's been discontinued... did they ever set it up so you could track live for more than 5 hours?

     

    Al - I had been looking at web-based rules and discussions of them instead of the athlete's manual.  Duh.  Thanks.

  • FWIW, I have an iPhone and put it in a ziplock bag and put it in a sock and have it in T1 bag.
    When I get to T1, I put it in my pocket in my top.
    I am guessing that it is ok as long as you don't use it during the race — as in that would be potentially dangerous.
    My wife then can use FindMyFriend to see where I am on the course.

  • I have a Garmin GTU -10 (currently lost BTW since IM Tahoe) but noted that Garmin will no longer be supporting or carrying the service at or around 1/15 per Garmin site.  The product is currently discontinued. Therefore, I am carrying my phone so that my family know where I am. I had a episode in the NYC Marathon 2011 where I pulled a adductor muscle in my right thigh at mile 3. I ended up walking the rest of the marathon and finished at 6:01. My wife basically said she got whiplash from trying to watch every runner to see if it was me for close to 3 hours after I normally finish. I told her never again. I've used the GTU-10 ever since but again (currently MIA). I went to the Wahoo KickR site and they have a iphone case and extra battery that I was going to mount on the bike then transfer to my water belt pouch. I know for a fact my Iphone would run out of juice close to the end of the bike.
  • I just bought a Garmin Fenix 2 watch....per the instructions it can be used for live tracking via Garmin connect....I haven't tried it yet for live tracking
  • Either way you may want to let friends/family know that there are many "Dead Zones" on the IMWIS bike course.  no signal for calls, I'm not sure how that would effect you on race day.  I have heard (ok no personal experience...) that even the tracker you pay for has issues on that course on race day.  Just trying to keep significant others from freaking out if you drop off of the face of the earth for awhile....
  • Thanks for the heads up.

     

    Jeff - if I understand right, the Garmin unit you have requires a cell phone to couple up for live tracking...so you face the same basic issue with it - that carrying the phone itself is apparently against the rules (though more data gets transmitted).

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