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Brian Boyl's Micro Thread

Coach Patrick,

First, thank you for the phone call, I will get back to you soon!

In the macro forum, Coach Rich and I established a big picture strategy for the NOS that works with my schedule. It goes something like this:

Monday: Hard Bike, Moderate Run

Tuesday: Hard Run, Moderate to Hard Bike

Wednesday: Easy Run

Thursday: Hard Run, Hard Bike

Friday: Moderate Run.

Weekends: Off.

It's not as ideal as your off days split apart, but for my SAU, weekends are for family. 

Monday, Wednesday, and Friday are done indoors because my gym has child care. Those days I am limited to two hours total (at the extreme) and no more than one hour on the bike. The bike has power meters so any power workout is possible. Tuesdays and Thursdays are usually outdoors with ample time (anywhere from 2.5 to 4 hours). Rich suggested that I invert many of my bricks so the run is first, allowing my run to be crisp and strong. Sometimes this will be possible, often it will not. I'll do it when I can.

As for this coming week, NOS week 3, I've juggled the workouts to arrive at the following plan (please keep in mind that Tuesday is Veteran's Day and will probably be a gym day - only Thurs is outdoors with ample time this week).

Monday:

Ride, 60 (! Tuesday's):

2 x 12' (4') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard (249-262w, 153-162bpm). 

Remainder of any time you have available (if any, not required) @ 80-85%/Zone3/Mod-Hard (210-223w, 146-153bpm).

 

Run, 35 (M Thursday's):

Accumulate 12' of Hills at 2% to 4% grade @ MP/Z2/Steady (8:35/mi, 7.0mph, 133-152bpm). 

Remainder is @ MP/Z2/Steady (8:35/mi, 7.0mph, 133-152bpm). Finish with 3 x 20" Strides @ IP/Z5/VeryHard (7:41/mi, 7.8mph, 171-174bpm).

 

 

Tuesday:

Ride, 60 (M Thursday's):

7 x 2' (2') @ VO2/Zone5/Very Hard (288-315w, 164-167bpm). 

Remainder of any time you have available (if any, not required) @ 80-85%/Zone3/Mod-Hard (210-223w, 146-153bpm).

 

Run, 50 (! Wednesday's):

3 x 1 mile (5') @ TP/Zone4/Hard (8:00/mi, 7.5mph, 159-169bpm). 

Remainder of run is how you feel, but try to accumulate time @ MP/Z2/Steady (8:35/mi, 7.0mph, 133-152bpm).

 

 

Wednesday:

Run, 35 (L Tuesday's):

30' @ EP/Z1/Easy (10:00/mi, 6.0mph, 111-133bpm) + 3 x 20" Strides.

 

 

Thursday:

Run, 70 (M Sunday's):

2 miles @ HMP/Zone3/ModHard (8:17/mi, 7.2mph, 152-159bpm), 

1 mile @ LRP/Z1/Easy (10:00/mi, 6.0mph, 111-133bpm) to recover, then 

2 x 1 mile (4') @ TP/Zone4/Hard (8:00/mi, 7.5mph, 159-169bpm) or best effort. 

Remainder of run is how you feel, but try to accumulate time @ MP/Z2/Steady (8:35/mi, 7.0mph, 133-152bpm).

 

Ride, 75 (L Saturday's):

2 x 12' (4') @ 95-100%/Zone4/Hard (249-262w, 153-162bpm). 

MS2: 2 x 15' (2') @ 80-85%/Zone3/Mod-Hard (210-223w, 146-153bpm).

 

 

Friday:

Run, 50 (L Saturday's):

Steady run as MP/Z2/Steady out (8:35/mi, 7.0mph, 133-152bpm), 

HMP/Z3/Mod-Hard back (8:17/mi, 7.2mph, 152-159bpm).

 

I just wanted to put this out there so you know what I'm up to, and to see if you concur with my arrangement for next week.

Thanks for your time! I'll talk to you on the phone soon!

Brian.

Comments

  • BB - thanks for checking in. Given how you're stacking your workouts I think it's worthwhile to make sure that we've got them spaced out in a way that allows you to be as successful as possible. For example, if you're going to double down on bike workouts on Monday and Tuesday, then with the easy run you have scheduled for Wednesday on Tuesday, and move that interval run to Wednesday by itself. Then on Thursday I would do Saturday's workouts as written, and Friday is your Sunday long run.
  • Coach R, thanks for the notes!

    Got it: I guess I was focusing effort on Tues and Thurs, and it's more prudent to distribute the effort more evenly in order to achieve success. Also, I was probably avoiding my long run on a treadmill day, but because Tuesday's an indoor day, your arrangement sounds like the best way to go for next week.

    If I really wanted the long run to be on one of my outside days (Tues, Thurs) would the following work for a particular week?

    Monday: Moderate Bike, Moderate Run
    Tuesday: Long Run
    Wednesday: Moderate Bike, Moderate Run
    Thursday: Hard bike, Easy Run
    Friday: Moderate Run

    In other words, move my Tuesday bike to Wednesday in order to leave Tuesday just a long run. It can't work for next week, but may in weeks following - especially if runs get longer.

    Thoughts?

    Brian.
  • Yes and YES!! Nice planning!
  • BTW, sorry I referred to you as coach R, coach P!

    I'll probably experiment a little with a long run Tuesday or stacked workout Tuesday to see which approach produces the best results.

    Thx for the feedback!

  • No worries, we've both been called worse!!
  • Coach P,

    I don't know if this is a micro or macro thread question, but here it goes: I'm hammering away at NOS and loving it! Thanks! I have a set schedule so things are working out well. But I expect that to change in a few weeks: I'm a professor and I will be on break for four weeks starting December 15th. For most people that free time would great news for their workout schedule, but for me it's the opposite: I'll be spending time with the family and traveling. I'll see how things go, but I doubt I'll be able to maintain the five runs and three bikes per week of the NOS. However, I might be able to squeeze in three runs and two bikes per week. At the bare minimum I'll probably be able to do three runs per week (no bikes).

    During the break I'd like to, if at all possible, maintain my run fitness - I have no delusions that I'll be making much in the way of improvement during those weeks. My question is this: In order to maintain my run fitness, what would be the bare minimum that I'd have to do? Would I be able to maintain bike fitness with just two bikes per week? Finally, what should I be rolling back into when I come back from break? NOS again? JOS?

    Thanks!
  • Brian, no worries we can make it work...can you give me an idea of what your basic weekly schedule would look like or when your travel is? We can hack anything...
  • Things are usually very random during break and difficult to strategize/schedule. My best guess is that I will have opportunities for runs on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday for an hour or less, and if I'm lucky, a spin class (with power meters) on Mondays and Wednesdays before the run. Three runs per week is pretty likely, the additional two spins I will get when I get them, but I don't expect them.
  • Ok, so you have three types of runs, you pick the day:

    1 - FTP run as Warm up, 2 x 1 mile (4' rest) done.
    2 - Tempo run as Warm Up, remainder in Zone 3 / HMP.
    3 - Easy run with strides...Zone 1 to Zone 2, some pick ups at the end.

    Bikes -- if you are in a spin class, just do _that_ class then run as directed...eat right, sleep in, and enjoy the break!
  • Coach P, Thanks!

    Sorry, still kinda noob: Is FTP run a Z4 and Tempo a Z3?
  • Brian, yes!!!!! Ding ding ding! FTP is Z4, Z3 is Tempo...also known as ABP (always be pushing). Sorry for that!
  • Coach P,

    I was looking at my 2015 races and noticed that my first race is a month earlier than I had expected (they upped the date from previous years - dunno why). It will be a sprint like distance on March 8th, 9 weeks from today. Coach R originally suggested that I roll out of NOS into a GF routine in prep for that race when NOS ended, but now I'm wondering if I should roll out of NOS earlier because the race is earlier. I know this may be more of a "macro" strategy question, but it affects my immediate training so I thought I'd hit you up with the question first.
  • Brian, the OS is so important to your annual fitness that I am hesitant to have you leave so early. How would you feel about hacking in the Monday / Friday swims for the final few weeks? The OS work is definitely more than adequate for a sprint...
  • Totally agree with you about the nos. I'm getting some really good development and don't want to cut it short, especially for the final push. All the races on la tri series have moved up a month making it possible for me to race the second on the series as well as the first. The second is April 19th. I could use that as my A race, and the March 8th as prep. Does that make sense?
  • Perfect! Why the move forward? Are they worried about another heatwave?
  • Not sure, but you may not be too far off: The final race (of three in the series) this year is in Mid may, while the previous ones were in June. It may be that June is getting too toasty for an inland Olympic distance race.

    An additional question: The NOS had five run days, three bikes, and two (pseudo, now actual) swim workouts. Is that the same distribution for the GF plan? The reason I ask is that I need to make my schedule arrangements now for my training until May. If the training plan is similar, I might be shooting for a training schedule such as the following (with a few more swim days):

    Monday: Light swim, run (60min), bike (60min)
    Tuesday: Hard swim (masters), long run (up to 90 min)
    Wednesday: bike (60), run (60)
    Thursday: Hard swim (masters), longish bike (90 min), run (60)
    Friday: Medium swim (50min), run (60)
    Sat & Sun: Off for family.

    Would I be able to insert the GF plan into a schedule like this? Would this a reasonable arrangement for a weekends off plan?

    thx,

    BB/
  • Brian, you can view any plan, any time, by loading it into your account. The GF plan as 3 swims 3 bikes 4 runs.

    I would look at it like this:

    Monday: bike (80min), run 40-60. -- this is the Saturday Main Bike.
    Tuesday: Hard swim (masters), long run (up to 90 min) -- Long run is steady, no real flash.
    Wednesday: Medium swim (50min), bike (60) -- This is an FTP bike.
    Thursday: Hard swim (masters), FTP run (60) -- This is the Wednesday Run
    Friday: Steady bike (60-90 min), run (40-60) -- So Zone 2 to zone 3 bike (at the end), followed by a brick run in Zone 2 (building at end if you feel good).
    Sat & Sun: Off for family.

    I removed a run after the long run day (you'll need a day) and put the friday swim to Wed to get a bit of recovery after the long run.

    Let me know what you think!

    ~ Patrick
  • Coach P,



    Thanks for the feedback! Good to know I can pull up a plan at any time.



    The 3 swims in the middle of the week is something I hadn't thought of and works well with my schedule. Only 4 runs also takes some pressure off. The challenge would be the 60+ minute bikes on Monday and Friday: I'm limited to 1 hr because they're within the context of a gym spin class (that I essentially use as a trainer ride) due to child care constraints. My Thursday schedule allows for a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hr hunk of training where I can place a run and a 90 minute outdoor or trainer ride. This is why in the early part of the NOS, I was doing my Sat stuff on Thursday. Tuesday has flexibility too (about 2 1/2 hr max, could be outdoor), but I like reserving that time for the long run.

    Your schedule is def workable, but I think I'd end up shanking the Monday and Friday bikes consistently. Not by much, but those extra minutes are the toughest and most valuable ones!


    I know my schedule is a little odd (no weekends, weekday morns, gym constraints three days a week), but it's what I got!



    Again, thx for your feedback. It's all very helpful!
  • B2 - thanks for filling in the blank spaces with your constraints. I totally get it! Let me know how the week plays out at least for the next two and that will give us a good indicator of what changes if any we need to make. I could see you riding longer on Thursdays for example it's more a function of what that does to your Friday. Nothing we can't solve
  • P,

    I've been on the Short Course plan for the past few weeks (a little hacked, due to some vacation days). I'm currently in week 13 and noticed that the plan does a little taper this week and then enters a test week next week - in week 14. I have my first race at the end of next week (March 8th - a sprint - 500M swim/16mi bike/5k run), and a test week doesn't really seem correct. Also, I'm thinking that the little taper this week is not well suited as well. (I would expect my taper to be next week). What would you suggest I do at the tail of this week and as a taper week next week?

    BTW, this will be a "B" race, not an "A".
  • I'd repeat the end of last week (to avoid taper time) and next week I'd use the drop down to bump it to week 20 for the real race taper, then afterwards back up to the regular week!!
  • Got it. Makes sense! Thx!
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