crashed my new bike....suggestions!

Yvette Metz

Hi all, 

Need some help with my bike. I crashed my new bike  at IMFL . I broke the rear derailer off of the carbon frame. Orbea doesn't make that frame (new year) they have a frame with the rear that can be taken off and replaced on my frame. Carfree (thanks Coach R)can do the swap/repair and paint. 

I have shimano ultegra 10 speed ,Orbea Ordu DI2 

To repair frame ($500.00) and all damaged parts for a 10 speed it is going to run $1300.00

If I want to rebuild to a 11 speed it will cost $2000.00

Should I go to a 11 instead of the 10? 

thanks!

Yvette

 

Coach Rich

Posted By Yvette Metz on 24 Nov 2014 05:02 PM

Hi all, 

Need some help with my bike. I crashed my new bike  at IMFL . I broke the rear derailer off of the carbon frame. Orbea doesn't make that frame (new year) they have a frame with the rear that can be taken off and replaced on my frame. Carfree (thanks Coach R)can do the swap/repair and paint. 

I have shimano ultegra 10 speed ,Orbea Ordu DI2 

To repair frame ($500.00) and all damaged parts for a 10 speed it is going to run $1300.00

If I want to rebuild to a 11 speed it will cost $2000.00

Should I go to a 11 instead of the 10? 

thanks!

Yvette

 

What parts are they replacing?? What did you damage in the crash? 

Paul Hough

If you have any intention of changing wheels or cranks in the future, then go to 11 speed as the industry has moved on to that standard.

Robert Sabo

I think what Paul is saying is that if you upgrade your bike to 11 speed, you also have to upgrade your wheels to 11 speed. That might involve just the cassette change or might also require a hub or hub adapter change.

Yvette Metz

Coach Rich, Did a number on my bike in the crash

here is what I need:Here is the breakdown of the price of a 10 speed
rebuild as opposed to


an 11 speed rebuild.

10
Speed:


*Calfee repair    $500


*Shipping to and from Calfee $100


*10 speed rear derailleur  $ 243


*Shifters:  $207


*Etube:  27


*Chain: $32


*Labor:   $150


*Shipping back to you $50





This option would run you around $1308 before tax.





To upgrade this bike to 11 speed the following is the price quote:


*Calfee repair:  $500


*Shipping to and from Calfee:  $100


* 30.00Rear Derailleur:  $270


*260.00Front Derailleur:  $ 260


*3.00 Chain:  $35


* 23.00Shifters:  $230


*3.00 Etube:  $30


Cassette:  $100


Crank: $330


*Labor:  $150


*Shipping: $50





This option would run around $2,055

Yvette Metz

Paul and Robert, Thanks. I am checking in to my new race wheels. the front one was not damaged but the back one was . I sent it back to Remolds for repair.  I asked the bike shop about being compatible for the 11 and he said the new wheels were . I need to double check before I do anything.  Thanks for your input, I need all the help I can get.

Considering sending the frame to my local bike shop and have them rebuild it.  This would save $100.00 on ship costs.

Paul Hough

Now I get it...if you want 11 speed now, they have to change the cranks, cassette, etc...which is why it is so much cheaper. If you have 10 speed wheels already you would save a bundle. Eventually, everything is going to shift, so the question is with this repair, how long do you expect to keep the bike. Since it has been wrecked it's probably best to keep it till it really is worn out, and the next one can be 11 speed. That points to saving the money and sticking with the 10 speed so you don't have to buy a new 11 speed crank, front derailleur, and cassette just to be on par with the latest technology.

BTW, I have 3 10 speed bikes (1 road, 2 tri) so I am not incentivized to switch, but I may get a new road bike in the future and that will be 11 speed.

Yvette Metz

Hi all,

My frame was repaired from Calfree.

I am going to change from 10 speed DI2 Ultegra to the 11 speed DI2.

not sure what to go with DI2 Ultegra or Dura Ace. need your input please?n 

PRODUCT COMPARISON

	HOLLOWTECH II CRANKSET (2x11-speed)	HG Cassette Sprocket (11-speed)	Di2 REAR DERAILLEUR (11-SPEED)
Model Number	FC-9000	CS-9000	RD-9070
Series	DURA-ACE	DURA-ACE	DURA-ACE
Chain Compatibility	Super Narrow HG EVO for 11-speed	HG 11-speed
Average Weight
Cassette Compatibility			11-speed

Product Specs

                   




Model Number
CS-9000


Series
DURA-ACE


Number of Sprockets
11-speed


Chain Compatibility
HG 11-speed


Option 1
11-23T


Sprocket Sizes
11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,23


Option 2
11-25T


Sprocket Sizes
11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,25


Option 3
11-28T


Sprocket Sizes
11,12,13,14,15,17,19,21,23,25,28


Option 4
12-25T


Option 5
12-28T

PRODUCT COMPARISON

 
 








REMOTE TRIATHLON SHIFTER (Double Button)
HOLLOWTECH II CRANKSET (2x11-speed)

PRODUCT COMPARISON

	ULTEGRA 2x TT/Triathlon Dual Control Lever	REMOTE TRIATHLON SHIFTER (Double Button)	ULTEGRA Cassette Sprocket (11-speed)	ULTEGRA 2x HOLLOWTECH II CRANKSET
Model Number	ST-6871		CS-6800	FC-6800
Series	ULTEGRA		ULTEGRA	ULTEGRA
Average Weight			--	-
Cassette Compatibility	11-speed			CS-6800
Chain Compatibility			CN-6800	CN-6800

 

ULTEGRA Cassette Sprocket (11-speed)                 

•  HG-EV 11-speed cassettes sprocket
•  Rider tuned wider gearing options with 11-speed 

Product Specs                  

Model Number	CS-6800
Series	ULTEGRA
Number of Sprockets	11-23,11-25,12-25,11-28,11-32
Sprocket Material	--
Sprocket Finish	--
Chain Compatibility	CN-6800

I was reading a review that said to swap out the ultegra crank for the  dura ace crank and keep everything else ultegra. any thoughts on this?

thanks

 

GMAN 19030

I have Dura-Ace Di2 on my bike but if I could do it again I would go with Ultegra Di2. I had no choice at the time I bought my bike as Dura-Ace was the only Di2 option when I pre-ordered my 2014 Trek Speed Concept. The price difference is extreme. Dura-Ace is 2x the price.

Al Truscott

Also, there is a mid length Ultegra Di2 rear derailleur, which allows for an 11-32 11 speed read cassette. That's what I've got now, no excuses for not spinning up a hill.

Yvette Metz

Bob, what besides the price is you opinion of Dura Ace?

Yvette Metz

Thanks Bob and Al.
Al, if I go with 11-32 will I be ok on the flats?

Al Truscott

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Thanks Bob and Al.
Al, if I go with 11-32 will I be ok on the flats?

IMO, YES

Some people worry about the "gaps" between cogs in a wide range cassette like this, meaning you might have to pedal 80 rpm in one gear, vs 94 in the next higher one, while going the speed/watts you want. I'm not one of those people...meaning Inprefer to ride st the watts I want, and let the cadence sort itself out.

An 11-32 gives you maximum options for all gradients and speeds you might encounter.

GMAN 19030

Posted By Yvette Metz on 20 Dec 2014 01:18 PM


Bob, what besides the price is you opinion of Dura Ace?

I think it's fantastic.  I've been using Di2 since early 2011 (had first gen Di2 on my previous tri bike).  It's just expensive and I just can't see a justification for paying for the Dura-Ace over Ultegra.  It's a bit lighter but we're only talking a couple of ounces for about twice the price.

Yvette Metz

Thanks everyone for your help! 

I have decided to go with the Ultegra Di2/11speed and the 11/32.  

@ Bob: would love to go with the Dura- Ace. I couldn’t pull the trigger on the Dura Ace. Considering I spent $7500.00 on my new bike, power, race wheels, helmet, Garmin 910 and this year. Then trashed it during IMFL this year. A lot of repairs, had to fix the frame/paint,/all new Di2 ,crank, derailleurs, went with 11 speed because I had to replace the parts anyway, new helmet/new spokes on race wheel/new tri clothing/jacket and the list continues.

@Al: I am going with the 11/32 based on your input. In addition, this summer I rode the course at IMChoo and discovered there were two hills that the 11/32 would have helped.

2015 is the year!

 

Al Truscott

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