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Completely get why I can't hit 3X1 right now in my run considering this is my first week back to speed work... but it still pisses me off. Is it best for me to hack the adv OS plan breaking my miles into 800s or maybe just starting back with the OS beg/int plan? 

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  • No! You should aim for a few seconds slower...we don't want you all tapped out.

    Not hitting a session based off of your functional numbers isn't a failure...it means you aren't rested enough for that session. Can you give me some ideas of how we can improve the pre-3x1 prep?
  • I haven't been able to properly test since getting back at it. I'm signed up for a 5k Saturday morning. Maybe after I get those numbers dialed in, the 3x1 will come easier? The only other idea I have is since I'm still building my fitness back, break them down into 2x800 2x1 for the next week or so. My biggest problem is myself. I know where my numbers can be so I immidiately try and put them there... And then I throw up.
  • Ok Nevermind- I had a great 3x1 mile run w/ warm up cool down yesterday. I will now go to my pain cave wall and write "I will follow my training plan and not complain" 100 times. 5k test tomorrow and swim meet in afternoon for fun. Have a great weekend. EB
  • Warm up well plse and aim to negative split it. Having a hard number will really help things.

    Ps obstinacy can be a super power!
  • P!!

    Everything was going great until Spring Break hit. Ended up hanging with kiddo uno instead of getting my prescribed wko in Tues/Wed. But if we're being honest, my 10 mile run on Sunday had be pretty stiff. Monday swim helped a bit, but still didn't feel like myself yesterday.

    Need your thoughts on a few things.

    1. Finishing out this week strong, knowing that I have a mountain ride on Saturday (60 miles, 4400 vertical climb)
    2. I've got my first post injury 13.1 April 11th. I got about 21 miles in last week and was cooked. I did prescribed 400's + Z2/3 miles today and felt awesome.

    Should I plan a long run (90 min) for next week and do an ABP shake out ride on Sunday afternoon? Maybe plan a brick run after Saturday ride?
    I'm in wk 11 of OS I think.

    EB
  • EB - No need to "finish a week strong" -- this is an annual project; fatigue is there (still, missed workout), so let's honor that and do your mountain race (fun!).

    In terms of your week pre HIM, I'd like to see you run 2 x 90' -- both on the upcoming sundays...then the week of the Half there's minimal running. Like 2 x 30' minimal.

    No ABP shake out please...do your OS week as planned, only modify the long run as required. Mondays and Fridays NO WORKOUTS PLEASE UNTIL THE OS ends.

    Remember...annual project. image
  • Ok back to chalkboard. That's why you're the coach. Thank you.

    I only had time for 60' run today. Did the 3x800 at z4 though. I'll plan to add on time to W run and continue to power through last weeks of OS.

    Is it bad I've yet to switch to TT bike? I've still got my PM on road for indoor/mountain rides.
  • Sounds good. No worries not on TT bike yet...you'll quickly remember what it's like...besides, who wants to be wicked aero indoors and not go anywhere? image
  • Good news is I think I'm ready for the 13.1 -- Bad news is I won't be able to do it now that weekend. Have to build up some SAU's at some golf thingy in GA with Jaybird.

    I can find another half marathon, I can race a 5k this weekend, or just keep going with training and not worry about finding a race?

    I have been asked to do ride in a relay team at Charleston 70.3 April 18th which I think I can swing with family stuff. Thoughts?
  • I say 5k and plan on the next "thang" being your bike leg. You ready to rip that up?
  • ...and begin. No 5k now.

    Hurt my knee at mile 11 in my run because I had to stop abruptly to avoid a car. Patella tendon is very angry with me for doing that. Rest, ice, and recovery is the name of the game now unfortunately. Since this is an annual project, I'd rather take a few days off than an entire season, right?

    Yes, hoping I remember how to ride aero. Guess that is one way to get used to it again.
  • Yarg. Break out the Rock Tape to help that be stable while you exercise. www.athletestreatingathletes.com has some videos for you if you need help with the taping; but let's do that as we ice it. I hope you gave that driver the patented "really really angry EB look with lazer eyes" or something. Please keep me posted!
  • Thanks - I'll check it out. Decided to not do 5k this morning. Attempted the bike, but knee is still pretty angry. Only lasted 15 min before I pulled the plug because of discomfort. Please send lots of happy thoughts this way. Making an appt to check it out this week. ART guy thinks its where my abductor tendon is. gulp.
  • I think I'm going to find an Easter dress and forget about chocolate ice cream and training. The only things I want right now.
  • Good short term plan. Add lots of ice and elevation as well. Run jail for short term but swim away. If walking doesn't hurt give that a whirl....want to stay loose, etc.
  • Thanks P - what about the bike? TT irritates it now. Road is in shop but I can give that a whirl Monday.
  • Update: 4 days off. Round of steroids to hopefully knock out any tendonitis. If it doesn't clear up after that, imaging.
  • Ok. Reduction of swelling?
  • luckily no swelling at all. just stiffness from where knee cap dislocated. The good news I guess is both knee caps are sore, the right is just a little worse than the left. ART today to check in on movement.... Still on for BRC for now.
  • Ok...no pressure on the camp AT ALL. We want healthy EB. Pumped for your swim!

  • Finally couldn't take it anymore and went to ortho urgent care. Good news is confirmed MCL sprain with no meniscus damage. He recommended a shot of cortisone to knock out the rest of the inflammation. My PT is giving me grief about doing that and says it was stoopid but I went with the MD advice. I'm supposed to load HIM plan tomorrow. PT tomorrow, swimming the rest of he week. Cool? Probably going to bail on the relay Saturday just so I can keep healing and be closer to participating 100% for BR camp.... Thanks for being my sounding board this week.
  • Swim yes but that's really it. Definitely worth checking with the Team re cortisone timelines and any ways you can safely return to activity. I am more worried about getting you on the bike first...
  • Swim yesterday was great. Run today not so much. 2 miles and knee is pretty sore. Attempting to bike tomorrow to see how that goes. If I have a day like today, chances for next week aren't looking very good. I'm super bummed.
  • The bike was promising. Still tender but no pain which I'll take. Got in 2x20 easy spins with a break in between.
  • I am glad you are being smart...but ugh. Have you tried rock tape for stability?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ud7e2nfp2oQ

    Might be worthwhile to check out....at least it can't hurt!

    Give you didn't have lateral trauma like a football player does, this is probably a repetitive stress issue...are you addressing any other bigger picture issues with your hips?
  • I feel like you're getting the EB overload this week... sorry!

    I'm a bit concerned about my build to Raleigh which just hit me, is in 3 weeks?! Swim I can get up to par, but my run concerns me. I'll head out for a run after preschool drop off this morning to see how I feel. My plan is to run 4/5 Z1/2 miles, and add 30 minutes each run day with some pick ups? If I get through this week, then I'll attempt some mile repeats next week with a long run, kinda diving back into the plan.

    Do you think I can get there to actually race? Or should I just focus on dialing my training back in, and maybe use the race as a big training day?
  • You won't know if you are ready to race the run until like the day before...and you'll still have to make the call on the day. BUT, until then we have to be smart. I'd like 5 runs a week, in the 4 mile range (that would be 20 miles, epic). 3 during the week, then on Sunday we double up on your runs...5 in the AM, 5 in the PM. Do that for two weeks (last one is a week out from race day) and we can go from there. Please write more if you need more!
  • Whoop whoop -- Lots to celebrate! Way to go Saturday. Sending you fist bumps from the Dirty South!

    While you were busy racing, I was busy finally feeling back to my old self again. RR on Sat went great. Open water RR on Sunday evening went ok. I got through it. FINALLY got a long run in today, and in 90 degree heat as well. Although a bit conservative, I nailed my pacing and nutrition with no real issues. Felt like I could have kept going. I even put together a race plan for Raleigh thinking I might actually be able to do this thing...

    Should I attempt to fall back into the plan for the week? Or make shift until at least Friday? Here is what I had planned:

    Tues: Swim
    Wed: 60' FTP work session, 30' easy run
    Thursday: Swim
    Friday: RR bike, followed by 6 mile run
    Sat: ABP?
    Sun: Rest (I'll be at the lake so I'd love to do another open water attempt if I can)

    Thank you SO much for helping me get through the last two months!! Again, huge congrats on such an epic day in Texas.

    Off to get the kiddos ready for bed - Talk soon EB
  • EB, great work and great news. Kudos to you. We need to keep the rest up (sleep) and I hope the nutrition is dialed in for you.

    Your week looks good...I'd keep the SAT ABP ride to like 2 hours, where the first 30' is just cruising around to get loose...then have some fun. Sunday swim only please unless you are tired..if you are / grumpy / etc just take the day. You'll thank me at mile 8 on run of race day... image
  • Check in for BSG week... How does this look?

    Monday: Swim, plus a 2 mile at Z2.
    Tuesday: Bike Test or wait?
    Wednesday: Swim?
    Thursday: 4 miles Z2/Z3?
    Friday: 2 mile run easy?
    Sat: BSG 100
    Sun: Rest
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