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JOS Week 9 Bike Thread

Well, testing is over and you likely have some "fun" new zones to fight with. In addition to those new zones, we also have a new kind of Thursday wko... 110% intervals at about 5', depending on your plan. This change may be good news to any of the VO2 haters, but if I recall, I had a hard time with these. If you struggle, just follow the WKO triage and do the best u can. Good luck!
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  • FTP done and dusted. 3x12 @ 0.99. Tough rowing, but got it done. Fun times all image

    Get after it this week and keep that mojo flowing, we're closer to the finish line than to the start!
  • Well I might be on the shelf for a few days.  I shut today's workout down with pain in my left knee.  Both knees were sore last night in different places so I did some extra rolling and stretches, but to no avail.  I have been tinkering with my cleat placement and believe this contributed to issue I'm having but the knees have been less than stellar for a few days.

    I got in 12; @.97 then could not push the power on the second one.  Total 26; @. 87. 

    I'm sitting here with a bag of ice on my knee contemplating my next move. 

  • @Gordon - Good call. Take care of those knees.

    Today's interval mirrored Saturday's only with a little less agony. Just a little mind you. Let's call it manageable suffering.

    56' - MS
    20' WU
    2x15'@ 1.00 & 1.00
  • wow. this is getting harder isnt it! today I went after 3x12 @ ftp which as of a week or so ago was 227. I got 230, 227 then cracked on the 3rd one. Had to take a minute easy after ever 3 min hard and ended up with 213. I felt kinda worried about that. Concerned that I might have over extended my self a bit. Then I looked back at the overall NP for the last 4 tuesday FTP bikes and found the following: 187, 192, 193, 201 for today. So now I am thinking that today just felt much harder because today was much harder.
    I am going to try and stick in the OS for as long as possible. I have a 70.3 at the end of april but I feel like this is important stuff we are doing right now.
  • Yup Jimmy, def getting harder! In my case, I swagged my FTP @ 177, previously was 169. I had been doing my FTP intervals around 171 before, now I'm shooting for 175-177 and man, each of those extra watts feel like 10!!
    Hit the intervals @ 3 x 12' @ .99, 1.00 and .96IF.
    Since I had been riding at about 171 prior to my guestimated 177 FTP, so if I do an interval now at 95%, it doesn't feel like I'm making progress. Ya know?
    1 Mile EZ brick after.
  • In the pool today for first swim wko of swim camp so no bike for me today. Anyone else shifting the swim camp?
  • Sarah- I think I'm supposed to switch to swim camp at some point but I typically boycott it. I won't swim until the last minute possible to get ready for my first race.
  • No bike for me today. Got on it after work and had no mojo. In my defense the work out today was green.
  • Today was the day that the OS monster reached up and bit me.    Had a really difficult time holding the power, heart rate way up, had take some micro breaks here and there, Last interval 20 watts down from target power.   It was not an effort issue,  heart rate and sweat lake under the bike proves that.   Time to hydrate, stretch, get sleep and hit it again tomorrow.  

  • Bike in and done! -But I did not follow with the run as usual for my Tues evening rides. It is snowing AGAIN! -Just didn't have it in me to bundle up with my blinkers and glow vest this evening. Does anyone happen to know if spring will ever arrive in the Northeast?

  • I was feeling a bit dejected until I read this thread. The 3x12 @ new FTP was a killer session. One of the toughest so far with the "accumulated fatigue" building everyone talks about. .95 .91 .96 and had to break up the last set into 3x4' to make it through. This is the money stuff we're getting into. Keep it up, good things to come from it!
  • Got excited about it being sunny still when I got home. Flew into the house, put about 10 lights on my road bike and me, layered up with a jacket, pack to hold the jacket on the way up and off I went to do the a Hill near my house. My garmin quit measuring the temp @ 32. Saw two other guys climbing, so I wasn't the only one that was crazy.Realized I had no phone/no id on me my second trip down the hill. So that was my excuse to only do 2 repeats. The repeats were almost dead even.

    So much better than getting on the trainer.

  • So, we're all itching for the outside/warmer stuff. Reading these posts, mojo is picking up even though we're all fretting about the increased difficulty. I forget about this every year. Rich mentions (chuckles with that little grin) every year. We spend the first 8 weeks thinking we're gonna CRUSH this stuff. But, some would say those weeks were a mere setup for this stretch.

    Richard B said it perfectly...."This is the money stuff we're getting into."

    I'm doing the Tues FTP work today with a brick run after.

    Thanks for the posts. You've put my head in the right place. Business mode. May or may not nail the intervals. But, I'm going to give it my best shot.
  • Yesterday's 3x15 FTP workout drained me. My new FTP #'s we're very hard to hold. I don't know if it was just one of those days or I'm in over my head. I did hit all of my numbers but ditched the brick run. Hopefully the next workout doesn't feel so shitty!
  • Finished.

    3x 15' (4') @ .97, .97, .96.
    purposefully stayed closer to .95 than 1.0 b/c I really wanted to complete the 3 intervals. purposefully kept a little bit of blue (TrainerRoad) above my yellow.
    Good news for my workout yips as of late...never thought I wouldn't complete any of the intervals.

    Then, got a 30' brick run in. Ez, low RPE, zn1. Took it real ez on the hills. legs were tired but, I believe, that was b/c of 45' FTP work as opposed to the recent burnout.

    My plug & patch week continues.

  • Hey John, I read the book about Pantani. Good read if you have time. Doesn't take too long. Inner Demons puts it lightly.
  • Work is crushing me this week. Most workouts this week are done with a, "Good enough" mentality. Wanted to quickly drop in and say:

    DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE THURSDAY WORKOUT!!!!! 4x5:00 at 1.1 is tough work. That first two minutes of the first interval is, "Tough, but doable." Then it starts getting, "Wait a tic, this isn't funny any more". Then it gets, "Wow, this is FTP test hard". The 3rd and 4th interval are legs grinding, nose to the dial tough.

    Just saying, get yourself jocked up for this one. It's a good one. image
  • I'd agree with Roy, having done a 4X5 last week as I did not test.  Don't overcook the first one as the last to are hard work and I typically like the Vo2 stuff.

    No ride for me today.  I might move the ride to Friday and do a zn3 workout.  200 watts vs 260 should be easier on the knee which is still sore today.

  • OK,

    New FTP up a tic to 259.

    Intervals today were IF 1.17, 1.11, 1.10, and 1.08.

    I have two words for that : Ouch! Ouch!

    Got it done tho.

  • @Roy - Thanks for the heads up. I would have underestimated this one.

    4X4 @ 1.10, 1.10, 1.10 & 1.12
    10'@ Z3

    The first one was the hardest. Unsure of how to pace it, I got behind and had to make it up in the last minute. The second was hard, but I knew what was coming. By #4 I figured out the proper pacing for me. I needed to get ahead in the count, for the first 15-20 seconds, and then slowly taper it back over the remaining duration. A lower cadence (81) felt better as well. Nothing makes Z3 work feel effortless like VO2 sets.
  • Today was....a FAIL.

    https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/711789103

    First interval pretty much right at 110%. ....The last interval was barely above FTP.
  • Holy cow...even with a week off the bike due to travel that one left a mark! The new ftp is no joke!!! Thanks to Roy's most excellent description and my own mantra in almost all last sets (bike or run...this is where you get STRONGER!) I made it through. Now off for a run! image
  • Damn this new FTP!   Was soooooo hard!  and 5 minutes?  Coaches are EVIL!   Ok  I am done now.....having a glass of wine to go with my ice pack!    Another in the books! 

  • Seriously? This WKO was H-A-R-D! I feel pretty good about what I did since in the past, I couldn't really do these. Managed 3 x 5' @ 1.11, 1.11, 1.07. Had a really hard time on the last one so last interval done as 3' @ 1.00IF then 2' @ 1.14IF. (Had to take 1' rest in between to regroup and get my $shit together and finish this beotch. No run after as I had a bike team meeting. Really interesting, learned a lot about race strategy, etc.
  • Long time lurker - first time poster in this group:o) Have thoroughly enjoyed the motivation provided by seeing you all kick some butt. Started a few weeks late, first OS, first year with a power meter, doing 3d IM (CDA) this year, all with EN.

    It's amazing how the power meter keeps you honest and on point during training. Tonight's 5x5 was tough, but made it through. Working on an estimated FTP at the moment, but thinking about testing next week as I have a 5k scheduled as well. Work works!

    Mark Hickman
    IMCDA 15'
  • Welcome to the pain party, Mark! image
  • @Kim - Great job
    sticking with it and getting it done.
  • I'm on vacation with wife and no kids in Las Vegas! I got yesterday's bike in before we left. 4x5 at the low end of z5. Got through the first two but I had to break the last two up into smaller chunks to get the time completed at the target watts. New zones are tough!
    Not sure how the weekend bike is going to go. I think that there is a spin bike in the fitness center.
    It is great running weather here. 60 degrees and sunny.
  • Nice job with the new VO2 work everyone. The change in stimulus should be a good kick to our systems and trigger some more growth.

    This week has been a busy one for me at work. I've defaulted to just getting what I can where I can. Everyone has a story and their own way through the OS image Anywho, after going into the office yet again this morning and putting out yet another fire, I ended up on the bike around 0900. Definitely a good session. 2x15 and 1x5 all right at 1.0 and 1.0 VI. Then (as I'm zwifting), I let myself jump into the mix and have fun. I did another 1x15, also at 1.0 IF but with a 1.14 VI. Jumping, drafting, jumping again. Felt fun. Ended with another 5 minutes at a steady 0.8 and now feet up, lunch time and I'll get a little run in this afternoon.

    Good luck everyone. Keep those posts and mojo coming!
  • @ Jimmy, jealous. Split some tens on a dealer 5 for me image
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