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Cleat position on shoe

I'm looking at buying new shoes.  I've read about the benefits of moving the cleat to the mid-foot instead of the ball of the foot:  Joe Friel (http://www.trainingbible.com/joesblog/2007/01/cleat-position.html) and Steve Hogg recommend it (http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com...-position/).  Friel states his power-heart rate ratio improved 9% when riding with mid-foot cleats.  Hogg states that mid-foot is better for long, sustained efforts and decreases the stresses on the calves (the "smallest muscle in the pedaling kinetic chain") leading to "increased performance when running off the bike". 

Does anyone have experience with a mid-foot cleat?  If so and you like it, do you have a recommendation for a shoe?  Thanks in advance.

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  • @Bob - I had read this article last year and found it interesting. However, I did not want to make any changes mid-season that would change up my fit or worse, cause injury. However, this year while training, apparently a cleat shifted at some point which was causing some ITB issues and I figured why not give the mid-foot thing a shot since I needed to make an adjustment anyway.

    That was roughly 2-3 months ago and although it solved my ITB issues, I cannot say for certain at this point that I notice any beneficial difference thus far. One caveat is that I've only been on the trainer at this point and my longest rides have been 2.5 hours. Hoping to be outdoor soon and extend the ride and maybe I will have more information at that point, but aside from comfort, I'm not sure I will notice anything.

    I'm curious to see if anyone else has had any experience with this. Thanks for posting.
  • Bob...I've read the same thing many times.  I don't do any "sprinting", so I have mine back as far as possible on both road and tri shoes.  I haven't ever seen/heard of a shoe that is different from a standard shoe with regular cleat slots though.  Are these different types of shoes?  

  • In 1997, I biked across the country. About 2/3rds thru, I started developing great toe numbness. It lasted for months. I read an article about mid creating. I moved the cleats back as far as I could. Numbness went away. My cleats have Been there ever since.
  • Same as Al. I read the article, had some calf tightness, and move them back...in like 2011...no changes ever since.
  • Does anyone with mid foot cleats have an issue with toe contact on the front tire?

  • Posted By Steve West on 10 Apr 2015 10:16 AM


    Does anyone with mid foot cleats have an issue with toe contact on the front tire?

    Yes, I've noticed this on my new bike, but not sure if there is a subtle geometry difference between my old and new bikes. Regardless, it's only happened a couple times at very, very low speed (thinking making a very tight u-turn in a parking lot) so not really an issue.

    As to the subject of the thread, I've had my cleats on all shoes slammed all the way back for years and years. No issues at all. 

  • My toe will touch the wheel when at a stop, with the wheel turned, as I stand to start, until the wheel is oriented straight ahead.  (ie....only when the wheel is really turned, which as Rich mentioned, is only possible at super-slow speeds or during a crash!).  


  • Posted By Jeff Leslie on 12 Apr 2015 11:03 PM

    My toe will touch the wheel when at a stop, with the wheel turned, as I stand to start, until the wheel is oriented straight ahead.  (ie....only when the wheel is really turned, which as Rich mentioned, is only possible at super-slow speeds or during a crash!).  

    I'm actually noticing this more, at very, very low speed, tight circles in a parking lot kinda thing. Not enough to change cleat position but I didn't have this on my old Calfee so...dunno. 

  • I switched to mid-foot cleat placement several years ago when trying to deal with "hot foot" (aka Morton's neuroma). I've since then resolved the "hot foot", but kept my cleats on all my shoes mid-foot, and definitely hit the front tire when slow turning and at stops. It scuffs up my bright white shoes - grrr..
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