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Where do you guys prefer your bottles? do you use those speedfil things? Does it change HIM to IM? bike to bike? I would assume that you'd need more water for a warmer race than in cool temps. I'd just like to get a real world view of how this goes. Do you get off the bike in the middle of ironman and refill the bottles? Good tips needed.

Inquiring minds.

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  • This depends quite a bit on how much real estate you have to work with. My bike frame is tiny, so I only have room for one (small) bottle on the frame. For a while I was able to fit a profile aerobottle on the aerobars. That's nice because you can refill it with water on the course without needing to stop and you can sip from a straw. But I've found that I don't actually drink enough water with the straw. Sooooo, now I have a regular bottle cage in between the aerobars and the bottle fits horizontally between my arms. I just pull out the bottle, drink, replace. On course I simply trash the old bottle before reaching the aid station, then grab a new bottle.

    My one big lesson learned is that only water goes on the aerobars. Gatoraid (or whatever else) goes in the cage on the frame. I like to keep the sticky stuff away from my bars.
  • That's exactly what I was wanting. ACTUAL info from the gals on what you do. I still have my road bike but I'm thinking the TT bike is in the future. I am curious as to how many people get off their bike too, during a race and why...and geez, I guess I should have volunteered for the bike course instead of the run course at IMFL!

    I've also asked some of my beast-like friends here, but they are all so fast, they don't spend nearly as much time on the course as I likely will.

    Thanks!

  • Taping the CO2 cartidges to the bike...what kind of tape do you think was used? I also think that reaching around back for water has to be hazardous! Thanks for the link!

  • Electrical tape works great for taping all sorts of things to your bike. Pick up your own roll and hide it from your significant other.

    Grabbing bottles from behind is actually just as easy as grabbing it from the frame- you just have to practice. I also have a rear hydration bottle cage doo-hicky that I will use quite a bit during training because there's no other way for me to be sure I have enough water during the rides otherwise.

    Also HIGHLY recommend you practice the aid station bottle grab if you aren't already comfortable with that process. No- people don't generally stop when getting water from each aid station. You simply slow up a little, find the person you are going to take from, MAKE EYE CONTACT (I'll even point and nod- you, yeah I'm coming to YOU), then as you roll by you grab the bottle from them.

    Bike aid stations are notorious for crashes because there's lots of folks doing stupid crap- so be on high alert and cautious. Stopping here (in the middle of the bottle exchange) is actually pretty dangerous. If you are going to stop, do so either just before the exchange or just after it (there are usually port-o-potties just after the bottle exchange as well, so many others are stopping here to take care of business.
  • All of this is awesome advice. I am 2.5 weeks out from my first HIM - I would love any other advice/insight/pitfalls to avoid from those who are more experienced. I too am nervous about things like bottle hand-off, opening gels without crashing or stopping, and just plain running out of energy despite having done pretty well with training. I am also curious about where to start on the swim - towards the back, front, off to one side? I am confident but not fast swimmer. Basically, I would love to hear whatever the other ladies think would be helpful to know going in! Even wardrobe advice.

    Sarah
  • Stephanie - not to intrude on the girls' conversation, but the Santa Claus who drives a brown truck just delivered to me a new between-the-arms set-up, so there is a better than 90% chance I will have two extra set-ups if you want to try one. I have the combination of the x-lab torpedo mini-mount and x-lab torpedo cage (http://xlab-usa.com/torpedo-mini-mount-aluminum.html; http://xlab-usa.com/torpedo-cage.html), and the x-lab Torpedo System 100 without the bottle (http://xlab-usa.com/torpedo-system-100.html).

    Let me know.
  • Santa is one man who is always welcomed, especially in the brown sleigh... my super duper security here at work won't let me look at those links...I'll try something else...what a generous offer! brb

    OK, wow...I'll let you know. That might just work. image 

  • Sarah- If you are 2.5 weeks out, I'm gonna guess that you've already got most of these skills down and really, just need to relax!!! It's just a ride like any other. How do you open the gels now? I'm sure you are drinking and using gels on your rides now, right? If you always stop to take in nutrition, then you have 2.5 weeks to practice and figure out what works for you.

    On opening gels- I've found some are easier to tear with the teeth than others. If you use CliffBlocks, tearing that packet open with your teeth can be a real challenge! So for more solid-ish stuff (like cliff blocks), I'll cut a small slit with sissors at the end to make it easier to tear during the race. This wouldn't be a good option for Gu/Gel as that could be very messy!

    What does usually work nice with gels is using the electrical tape to tape the gel to your downtube. You place the tape just above the tear point on the packet and then when you want to use the gel you just rip in off right from the frame. The tape keeps the top down and makes it tear easier.

    As for where to start on the swim, this kinda depends on how strong a swimmer you are and the race you are doing. So fill us in on some details here. How comfortable are you in the open water? What is your Swim TT pace/100? And what race are we talking about?
  • Stephanie - I just read a couple of the other posts above and noticed you said you do not have a tribike. The mounts I have are for between the aero bars so they will not work for a road bike. But, it's entirely possible that I read that wrong.
  • I have clip on bars that I have yet to install. Do you think they'll work? I'm not buying the tri bike until June.


  • I love love love my xlab torpedo for the front.  Horizontal mount with a straw that
    tucks.
      I do have to remember to let the
    fluid out of the straw before I tuck it.
     
    I put my electrolytes in it just fine. 
    There is also a computer mount on the front.  I have a bottle on my down tube and two
    bottles in my xlab on the back.
      So I
    carry four bottles= 3-4 hours. For my IM, I had powder in my BSN bag and asked
    the volunteers to put one bag of powder in each bottle, fill with water, and
    shake.
      They were finished by the time I
    got out of the porta pottie!
      Less than
    three minutes and I was on my way.
      


  • I used clip on bars on my road bike for several HIMs  before I bought my tri bike.  They work great.  It takes about 4-5 rides to get comfortable in them, so you may not want to try opening gels and whatnot in your bars until you are more practiced.  I can do anything in mine now. And the xlab torpedo fits on my road bike clip ons just fine.  The nice thing about that system is that if you are tight on cash or don't feel like using the torpedo bottle, it also accepts a regular bottle nicely.
  • Oh, cool thanks! I don't use gels so that won't be a problem (unless I have an emergency/bonk). I have the Red Shift Sports bars and I'm thinking about getting the stem also, that shifts into the TT position. With all the $ I'm currently spending on my new saddle, physical therapy, it's starting to get "real". I also have some new wheels that I've had since last year, and they STILL aren't on my bike! I should just take it to my bike shop. Those guys are great. I just don't like being without her for any length of time!

  • Thanks for all the great info. Now if the weather would stay warm here in IL so I can practice instead of using my trainer. Come on weather!!
  • Nemo, thanks for all the info and advice. I am doing kinetic on May 9. I am pretty comfortable in the open water. I swim about 1:50/100m. I really appreciate all the advice!
  • Oooh, I'll be at Kinetic too! If you are reasonably comfortable, start near the front. Starting at the back only clogs you up with more nervous swimmers. Left/Right/or Center will depend on the wind that day. Watch the waves that go off ahead of you and you'll be able to figure out if the wind is pushing folks one way or the other. There isn't really a current in that lake, but the wind can be a factor.
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