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Long ride - hilly or not?

I have two main options to choose from for the weekend long rides...1) basically flat, or 2) mostly hilly.

The training plan has specific targets on goal watts, etc. if I ride the flat run, it's pretty easy to keep to the workout in the training plan. When I do the hilly run however, it's impossible to keep to the plan. Either watts are very low with big descents...or higher while climbing.

The question I have is should I just divert from training plan on hilly ride? So for example...perhaps one day do flats, keep to program. Second day, hills and just ride hard?

A race is Madison which is a hilly course so feel hilly training would be useful.

Appreciate thoughts.

Dawn

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  • It's a nice luxury to have this option.

    Only thing flat around here is in my basement.


    If I were in your shoes, I would spend most of the workouts using the flats and learning to hold X watts for Y minutes.....throughout, consistently.



    Then, once I had enough time holding watts for 20' repeatedly, I'd practice it on the hilly course. It will prove invaluable in September.



    Notes about my longer rolling hills rides.....

    Accept that Pnorm will be a bit lower. I have found that it is easier capping my effort at FTP or a little over on the ups than REALLY hammering on the downs just to keep my watts within 20-50 watts on the low side of the FTP. BUT, it is still work and work will pay off. So what if the Pnorm for that 20' was a bit low b/c of all of the downs? Doesn't look good in the journal, eh? Boy, that stinks. The body doesn't make a note of that. It just knows the work was done.



    So, if you want pretty intervals, stick to the trainer. Next best thing, your flat roads. [Make a note of RPE and HR's] Then, feel free to hit the hills and watch the watts on the ups and press the RPE on the downs.



    *numbers outside also have to suffer due to stop signs, stop lights, car interference, etc. Meaning, outside numbers are rarely perfect.
  • ahhh, crap! sorry, Dawn & P. I didn't catch the Micro. Just clicked on it from the Dash.
  • Chris, no worries at all...in reality, I love The feedback and insight...thanks for posting! ( and btw...you always have some good stuff to think about so keep it coming!!). ;-)

    What races are you doing this year?

    Dawn
  • As of right now, a big regional Oly in late June (Chattanooga) and a low key, grass roots, independent HIM (Rock & Roll Man) in Macon in early Oct.

    Good luck at IMMoo!
  • Master the hills and the flats will take care of themselves. image
  • The fact you have a choice is great. I think both serve you well -- the hills make you stronger (mentally / physically) and will force you to learn how to shift and ride well for race day. The flats force you to stay on the power even when there is minimal resistance (aka elevation). Personally I would alternate...spend some times in the hills, but other times in the flats; variety is the spice of life and can keep your training both relevant and engaging. I live in RI but that doesn't mean I can't ride hills; riding hills isn't about up or down but about managing effort. Once you learn ^that^ skill you could ride on your trainer and still be ready for IMMOO. image
  • Thanks Chris and good luck to you too!
  • John, Dino, Coach Patrick....thanks for the feedback as well. Taking everything in, think my strategy will be to take the hills in majority of the time. Add some time in the flats to mix it up and keep things interesting and practice holding watts. Will keep you posted on how things progress. I did a 2.5 hour ride yesterday on the hills and my stats were not very good....guess that gives me a baseline to improve on, right?!
  • Don't worry about "real time" stats like "how was my ride today" but rather look at this ride and ask "how does this ride compare to the one I did 4 weeks ago?" If you are trending in the right direction, you are on the right track!!! image
  • Thanks...will chat in ~4 weeks! ;-)
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