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Carbon Cages: Please Talk Me Out of Them

I went online to buy bottle cages for Dash, my beautiful Kestrel, thinking I would get something relatively inexpensive, plastic and slightly sexy-looking. One on the frame, one zip-tied between the bars, and I'm ready for 70.3 training and racing. But then, I started seeing all the pretty carbon fiber cages. And I started thinking insane thoughts, about how my bike NEEDS carbon fiber cages. Worthy bling? Or should I stick with my cheap, plastic cage plan.

 

Beth's new bike - Kestrel Airfoil

 

Comments

  • Have you thought about an aero bottle/cage for the downtube? That would be worthy bling with a bit of a performance advantage. Just a regular carbon cage is not worth it in my book. However, if you can afford it, why not?

  • What Matt said. Check out the aero bottle for the down tube. I have an Arundle but there are other brands too. The downside is you gotta use the bottle that comes with the cage. You can't use a "standard" bottle.
  • Oh boy. I'm quite frugal---cheap, actually---but not for bike stuff.
    From a completely irrational, emotional standpoint: Dash would look resplendent with carbon cages.
    Trying to justify the purchase: you will have some weight savings with the carbon cages.
    The solution to your problem: Buy carbon cages that are ON SALE! image
  • No need for carbon cages when you can have a carbon aero bottle.  It's only $200 and probably not dishwasher safe, but it would look really cool on Dash.

     

  • How about a Speefill set up? Hands free drinking is the only way! image

    I have a carbon cage for my second bottle--really, really cheap on sale. The reason I like them is the "give." They flex and open easily, so sticking a water bottle back in just feels smoother to do. Take this with a grain, b/c I am a bottle dork extraordinaire. But I do like them for that reason.

  • From somebody who had some serious buyers' remorse over the carbon cages, don't do it.  Not worth it.  Buy a cheap cage (Bontrager makes some great ones that are cheap and have good hold, Elite also makes some good ones), and spend the money on beer. 

    Or, I could trade you mine for Elite cages and beer...

    Mike

  • For normal bottle cages I just buy cheap profile design or bontrager cages for about $10 or less. I somehow managed to break at least two cages per year so I can't afford to buy carbon ones.

    The profile design e-cage ones can be found for $5 or less each, but they break pretty easy. Now I'm using the heavier plastic profile ones. The bontrager bat cage is really solid and works great for between the bars because of multipe ways you can zip tie it.
  • No way to the earlier posters: go for the carbon cages! I purchased Bontrager XXX Race Lite cages for my road bike several years ago and they have been light, cool-looking and bombproof.
  • Go for the bling! My carbon cages have stood the test of time. I recently passed my carbon hydrofoil and cages to one of my sons to get XLab. The old carbon cages were like new. The only cage I ever broke was a cheap alloy one mounted on the seat tube of my road bike. I do have a set of Profile Design plastic cages on the rear of my current road bike...those work very well.
  • Carbon... no doubt... carbon!
  • I just bought a 2nd hand Bontrager xxx carbon cage for GBP 15.00 ($20 or so) - I ran the same cages on my MTB while XC racing and never had an issue with them. Between the bars then the cheapy Trek Bat-cage seems popular - think its easy to modify/attach to the bars.
  • I have cheap, off brand cages. Last year, when Su got her new bike, we put XLab gorilla cages on it. They are the bomb! She never ejects a bottle when mine are all over the place.

    They are my Bday wish for this year!!

  • Like DAvid, I got my carbon cages on sale for about $20. I wouldn't go back to metal, now that I think this over. image

  • Oh, no! I was counting on the nation to fall one way or the other. Speedfil is definitely in the hydration scheme for IMWI. Does anyone use their Speedfil all the time, or is it too high maintenance?

    Hm. I have a birthday coming up in a few weeks. Maybe one sexy carbon cage (on sale) as a present to myself and the cage Mancona suggested to zip tie to aero bars?

     

  •  I have one carbon cage (with a cute carbon pump attached to it) and one old school metal cage (it's there because the bolt head have stripped, and I can't get it off). I never lose bottles from the carbon one, and have lost several (in races) from the metal one.

    I vote for whatever LOOKS the best, though - color and form coordination.

  • You can get generic carbon cages real cheap ($10-$15) on ebay carbon cage search link.

    If you're going the seat mounted bottle carrier route, I would highly recommend the carbon XLAB gorilla cage as they are very good at holding on to bottles and not launching them at every road bump opportunity.
  • I've been playing with a mount on the bars, and I stuck an old-school metal one up there, figuring it would be easy to adjust the tension on it (bendable). So far so good, but not very sexy. :-)
  • Posted By Beth Schwindt on 04 May 2010 06:20 PM

    Oh, no! I was counting on the nation to fall one way or the other. Speedfil is definitely in the hydration scheme for IMWI. Does anyone use their Speedfil all the time, or is it too high maintenance?

    Hm. I have a birthday coming up in a few weeks. Maybe one sexy carbon cage (on sale) as a present to myself and the cage Mancona suggested to zip tie to aero bars?

     

     

     

    I use my speedfill all the time. Yes it is a PITA, no doubt, but I love it. Also, you will need to have a different cage entirely for it, so not sure if that will impact your decision.

  • Knowing your sense of style I'd say not only carbon but white carbon cages.
  • Posted By Dan Socie on 05 May 2010 06:15 AM

    Knowing your sense of style I'd say not only carbon but white carbon cages.

     

    (Dan has spoken. Beth goes to shop for white carbon cages.)

  • Posted By Linda Patch on 05 May 2010 04:59 AM
    Posted By Beth Schwindt on 04 May 2010 06:20 PM

    Oh, no! I was counting on the nation to fall one way or the other. Speedfil is definitely in the hydration scheme for IMWI. Does anyone use their Speedfil all the time, or is it too high maintenance?

    Hm. I have a birthday coming up in a few weeks. Maybe one sexy carbon cage (on sale) as a present to myself and the cage Mancona suggested to zip tie to aero bars?

     

     

     

    I use my speedfill all the time. Yes it is a PITA, no doubt, but I love it. Also, you will need to have a different cage entirely for it, so not sure if that will impact your decision.


    Do regular bottles fit into the Speedfil cage?

     

  • I bought the speedfil, but only use it during races because cleaning it is a pain, or I'm lazy one of the two.
    Regular bottles will not fit. I use speedfil on the downtube, and 2 bottles in a cage behind the seat. that gives me about 4 hours worth of nutrition. Sometimes I may even use a aero bar bottle I bought years ago for that additional 5th-6th hour ride. Obviously I have weight issues.
    Overall in a race, I always use speedfill, its easy, im lazy to get a bottle out of a cage..too hard...
  • My old MTB race team sells these babies on their site - have no idea how good they are but considering its an MTB race site they should be cool - 10g each! GBP 18.00 so approx USD 27.00 plus shipping (shouldn't be much). I was going to buy but found the 2nd hand Bonty XXX instead.

    http://www.xcracer.com/shop/viewproduct.php?productid=51

  • here's my talk-out: The money is better spent on Assos anything. Bonus cred points with roadies that carbon could never bring.
  • I have carbon on lucky too!! hey hubby picked it out and $$ but yes it matches beautifully and always hold the bottle. the dang bike is $$$... why not have the icing too! ha. it holds my Carbo Pro bottle. and aerobottle up front has the water. my jersey pockets hold extra water while in training. m
  • It might just be me, but whenever I ask someone to talk me out of something, it's usually in hopes of getting enough people to justify/rationalize why I SHOULD get it.

    "Don't ask questions you don't want to know the answers to", I heard a few times.
  • It was the war being my inner zen capitalist, who knows it is easier to lose 20g of me and my inner stylish triathlete, who is riding around on the same frame as most of the Kestrel-sponsored riders.

    I'm thinking this is my cage (in white). Especially since I have a white rear wheel cover.

    Since I was told to make a birthday wish list, the top part of contains the "style my ride," plan, including pink castelli jersey. I'm thinking three red stars in a line on the rear wheel, and I have myself a beautiful ride.

     

     

  • Beth- I rode with Carly last week. She has the exact same bike (not sure of size) and uses the Speedfill. It fits great. I was envious as it will not fit my bike. But I do have carbon cages with the down tube having a side opening so it's easier to remove since I have a small bike frame.

  • Xlab Gorilla Carbon Cages will stop bottle launch even on the rough areas and rail road tracks of the IMWI course...and they come in white!
  • I bolted a few of these babies on the back of my saddle w/(Beaker Concepts Hydrotail) http://www.zipp.com/accessories/carbon-fiber-bottle-cage last season & had no problems with them. 21g each.
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