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IM MD - Week 12 / 20 - 9 to go

Happy Monday IM MD peeps!  Ready for a test week??  Woo hoo!!!  Last week was a little quiet amongst us... how was everyone's Saturday big day?  I had kind of a schizo training week - nada (and I mean nada M-F), then weekend warrior Sat-Sun!  Do not follow my example!!   Getting my daughter off to college (early summer semester) took up all my energy (mental & physical) last week, but now... I will be a Zen race warrior for the next 9 weeks!  Sat & Sun were great (altho hot!), cramming in the key long workouts - long ride + hour run Sat, and hour swim + long ride Sun.

Have a great week, all, and let's hear how the testing goes!

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  • oh, and Happy Birthday Sarah!!

    and if you haven't already, be sure to read CoachP's article on running using HR -  http://members.endurancenation.us/Forums/tabid/57/aft/19301/Default.aspx

    I don't know about you all, but up til now, I've used pace, and have really not had the IM run that I think I'm capable of.  I'm fascinated by this new (to me) approach, so plan to get majorly re-acquainted with my run HR and RPE in different situations, so I can find that magic HR range to watch like a hawk on IM day.

    Ok, back to work!

  • and if you haven't already, be sure to read CoachP's article on running using HR -  http://members.endurancenation.us/F...fault.aspx

    X2 what Julie said!!! That thread is critically important for folks to start getting their heads around.

    As for me, I totally blew up on the run during my Big Tri Day. Heat index was 91 and I felt every single degree on that run. The swim and bike went well, but oh boy, that run was rough. I was soooooooooo thankful for the following rest day!!!

    This week I'll be shuffling things around just a little to get in the testing. There's a TT on Saturday (same monthly one I've done as my FTP test for the past 3 months) and I'll use that for the test again this time. I'll also be moving the 5K run test to next Thursday because there is a local 5k race (and by local, I mean I'll be able to run from my house just 1 mile to the start).

    But tonight is massage night! Ahhhhhhh.
  • Thanks Julie! I am celebrating with a little rest today and then I am going to shift into zen IM mode too!

    Saturday actually went really well for me. I swam and felt like it was pretty easy. I rode my bike on my new trainer mostly because I didn't want to be out in the heat of the day but also so that I would pedal for the full 4 hours - which I did but it was HARD. I can't imagine another 2 or so hours. Happily I felt great on the run off the bike. Switching to infinite for my nutrition was amazing, it was the best I have ever felt so I am definitely sticking with that. I have to work out how to get enough for the first half of the bike into a reasonable number of bottles but I don't think that will be too hard. Overall the weekend was a big confidence boost but also a good reminder not to cut the corners on the long efforts - run or bike. I loved Coach P's video message for the week.

    I too am juggling this around a little this week as I have to drive up to NJ for a family event Friday night and Saturday but I think I will be able to get everything in.

    I'm one part excited and two parts nervous that we are into single digits in the weeks to go column - this is really happening!

  • I'm one part excited and two parts nervous that we are into single digits in the weeks to go column - this is really happening!

    ME TOOOOOO!
  • Nemo, tough day under the hot sun...add in some building fatigue and things can go south real quick.

    Sarah, great job at finding some nutrition that works for you. huge on race day. keep practicing.

    Julie, the thought of dropping my 7 year old daughter off at college makes me smile and want to cry all at the same time. I think you're good on skipping a few workouts. Now get back to it.

    swam long (um, for me that's 45 minutes in my lake), on Friday and then did 4 hours on the trainer and 55 minute run outside on saturday. I didn't eat enough before the bike and probably had too much coffee (is that even possible) before I got on the bike...overall, i'm pleased with the day.

    This week has always been a weird one for me for the schedule. I'm going to be a rebel and NOT test this week...I seem to do better with judging my FTP from the bottom up this time of year i.e. how do I feel after going .68-.72 for 4 hours. I will then have an honest conversation with myself after RR1 on where I think I'm at.

    I've also been tweaking each week by doing two bike workout during the week and only doing a long ride once on Saturday. Sunday is a medium distance run. Will eventually switch back to doing longer rides on Sunday but historically do terrible at back to back long rides. so figure, just go run...looking back at my files I've typically only averaged about 90 minutes on the sunday rides...so i've moved this time to during the week to free up Sunday.
  • Nate - enjoy the next 10 years; sending your kid off to college is by far the hardest thing I've done as a parent (and this was her sophomore year... image - still very hard!) I might be with you on the testing skip; I find it very hard to especially do the 5k run TT. Like Nemo, maybe I can find a local 5k this weekend - so, so much better with company! For the bike testing, I'd really like to do it outside, which means the weekend; since my outside vs inside "hard" efforts produce such different FTPs, I need that outside FTP really dialed in.

    Sarah - so awesome to have that confidence building weekend; that is SO SO important to remember on race day when the going gets tough ... just remembering "I CAN DO THIS!!" One thing to consider with Infinit is to carry one concentrated bottle (enough for a 1/2), then whenever you go through an aid station, add water and appropriate amount of concentrate to a between the aero bars bottle. Key is to practice this, as proportions are key!!

    Have great weeks all!!
  • may do an hour pool swim tomorrow in pool with a leash so no flip turns. Wedensday a long bike to stumpy point (love that name) and leave for lake logan oly in western NC. not quite the distances I should be using but since no ral training for the past 3 weeks it'll havta do.
  • Jim- good luck at Lake Logan. Patti and Jessica will be there- so be sure to connect and get some OBX lovin. Too bad our work schedules don't align, I'd love to ride more with you- especially out to Stumpy Point.

    Nate- I want to thank you for posting about your decision NOT to test this week. I think that's a very valid choice if you are someone who is pretty confident their FTP and VDOT are already dialed in and won't change from the last test 4 weeks ago. The only thing the 5K test will do for you now is up your training zones (which is good if you have in fact gotten faster), but it won't impact the race day run guidance or plan since that's based on HR anyway. The FTP is similar- except if you have a power meter, you will be using your most currently FTP to establish racing zones. I view the FTP Test as a "low impact" test- it's really not much more than the speed workout you'd have in the plan otherwise. But 5K all out can be more costly.

    Sooooo, with all that in mind, I've decided not to do the 5K race after all. I know my speed hasn't really improved all that much since my last race and with the heat/humidity I'm already struggling to hit the run intervals anyway. So sticking with the VDOT I've got through IMMD is fine by me.

    Again- thanks for that food for thought! As Coach P says in the video this week "don't follow the plan into a brick wall".

  • Whoa... 90 minute swim tomorrow! I was wondering when that was going to happen!
    Also, I noticed that CoachP is doing a coach chat today 12:30-1:15 on racing the IM run w/ HR. I'll probably miss it due to a lunch meeting (dang work!), but wanted to make sure you all caught that. And I think they record those so if you miss it today, you can hopefully listen to it on your next trainer ride. ??
  • Oooh, thanks for the heads up on the CoachP Chat today Julie! I may try to join that if work allows.

    I'm hoping to find company for an OWS to get that swim done tomorrow. The idea of being stuck in that 86 degree indoor pool that long makes my head explode.
  • If it makes you feel any better my OWS location gets pretty toasty this time of year...Not sure I will make 90 minutes because of my schedule, but will aim to at least do a solid 1:00-1:05

    did 85 minute long run this morning in place of a 5k time trial...can feel the fatigue building. a good reminder to not over-cook the shorter runs during the week...

    Goal for tonight and tomorrow is to get a little more sleep than normal so I can really nail the Saturday ride and run...fingers crossed.
  • I like your sleep goal Nate! I really need my 8 hours but it's so dang hard to fit double training days in, spend some quality (ie, not nodding off on couch) time with family, and leave house at 7am for work! Ahhh… woe is me and my first world problems! We GET to do this, not HAVE to! ??
  • Swim is in the books. Actually went really well, I am feeling pretty confident about that part. Don't misunderstand I wont be fast but I am feeling must stronger and faster in the water. Now to generate that same feeling about the bike and run!
  • Sarah- I think these long continuous swims really are all about building confidence- so mission accomplished!

    I had a great 1 hour OWS after all this morning. It was a solo swim in my backyard with my hubby paddling along in the kayak for safety. I really appreciated his company- especially to watch for boat traffic.

    I tried out my new swimskin/speedsuit thingy today too. It felt very comfy, but the chaffing I suffered at the 2.4 mile OWS a few weeks ago from my swimsuit resurfaced. So I gotta remember to bodyglide that area!
  • Self-belief and trust in training is a HUGE part of this game! Sounds like you've nailed it in the swim, Sarah! Don't worry, that will happen on the bike and run over the next couple weeks. ??

    Nemo, are you thinking this might be a non-wetsuit swim?
  • Nemo - how was the swim skin? I was thinking of getting one since it seems like the water temp will likely be right on the line for wetsuit legal.
  • Is the swim skin good for the rest of the race? how comfortable would it be for the ride/run? they look awesome for the swim!

  • Posted By Julie Pfeifle on 07 Aug 2015 09:25 AM


    Self-belief and trust in training is a HUGE part of this game! Sounds like you've nailed it in the swim, Sarah! Don't worry, that will happen on the bike and run over the next couple weeks. ??



    Nemo, are you thinking this might be a non-wetsuit swim?

    I think it's a possibility.  There isn't a whole lot of history with this race at the October date to go from, but water temps got unusually warm very early around here this year.  Hopefully it will cool off just as quickly, but I raced 2 HIM's this year that were wetsuit "optional" and so I figure its probably worth the investment for me now that I live farther south.


  • Posted By Patricia Rosen on 07 Aug 2015 10:18 AM


    Is the swim skin good for the rest of the race? how comfortable would it be for the ride/run? they look awesome for the swim!

    No- it's meant to go over your kit just for the swim.  You pull it off in T1 just like you would a wetsuit.

  • oh, okay. I have one of those but it's called a speed suit not a swim skin... Mine is by tyr... It feels great! I can't really tel if it helps in the pace but then again too many variables on each swim. Be sure to watch the pros go off in the swim as the current is a major factor on this swim!
  • I'm really hoping for similar water temps as 2013 ChesapeakMan, which was on the same course as IMMD. the water was comfortably cool with a wetsuit on. Not to mention it really helped protect from the jellyfish stings. The race in 2013 was in 3rd week of September. The jellyfish stings were not that bad...was more gross than anything. Its possible they clear out by October.

    hitting the water after work today...Friday is my sleep in day for now.

    the longer bike fitness will come around for you sarah. Just keep plugging away.
  • Just finished the Sunday ride. Previous weeks had been almost flawless but life conspired against this last one. Couldn't get any of my swims in due to different mixups and blew up the 5K test due to bad planning, nagging injury and starting off way too fast. Weekend rides were good and confidence is back up. Ran after the bike on Saturday in 100 degree heat in the shade and felt remarkably good. Nutrition worked really well. Cut the bike 30 minutes short today so as not to overwork a discomfort on the IT band. Hitting the foam roller twice daily to keep it in check.
    This week is travel week to Medellin, Colombia. Managed to book a hotel with a pool I can actually train in, can't miss any additional swim sessions.

    Hope everyone had a good week. Focus, focus, focus, focus...

    Have a good one.
  • I did the Saturday ride today due to family travel yesterday. Good news: I didn't wish there was hemlock in my water bottle today until 3 hours into the ride today (last week it was at 2 hours!) and I was riding much harder than the 4 hour ride last week. Bad news: I definitely need to up my calories on the bike from what I estimated with the infinite specialist I spoke with this past week - I was starving when I got back from my run. I am running well off the bike - hopefully I will be able to hold that together for beyond a 10K! I am feeling the extra work in my legs this afternoon but it was fun!


  • Posted By Sarah McDonough on 09 Aug 2015 04:53 PM


    Good news: I didn't wish there was hemlock in my water bottle today until 3 hours into the ride today (last week it was at 2 hours!) 



    Hemlock???  Huh?  What am I missing out on!

    Sounds like many of us had to switch the Sat ride to Sun.  I attempted to get it done on Saturday but the storms came in and I only got in 3 hours Saturday (last one was very wet!).  So I did a 4 hour ride with 40 min run yesterday with a good friend.  Meant I wasn't doing the intervals, but instead rode steady IM pace- which was probably OK since Saturday included a 30 min TT!  I felt great on the ride and the run, my UCAN routine seems to be working really well, but I do get very gassy later in the day- so I gotta figure that out!

    Oh- and I picked up some of that BASE salt that they will have on the course to test out.  I can't figure out exactly how they plan on distributing it since its not in pill format.  BUT, I LOVE it!  Mostly, I love the actual delivery system.  It's so much easier than fiddling with a little pill and I really look forward to that salty goodness on my tongue every 30 min.  

  • I've been sticking with riding twice during the week (shorter harder sessions) and doing a 4 hour session on Saturday. My ride on Saturday was 6 watts higher than the previous week and ran better coming off the bike. Ran 10 miles on Sunday.
    managed 38 running miles for the week. Hoping to break into 40 mile territory this week.

    how did we learn about "base salt"? Last time I checked the IMMD athlete guide was from last year. Do you think its just for the run course.
  • @Nate.  Here is what I found in the IMMD FAQs on nutrition...Looks like Base salt offered only on the run. 

    http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/maryland/athletes/faqs.aspx#faq29

    What nutrition will be available on course?

    Bike course aid stations will offer the following:

    Gatorade Endurance

    Water

    Bananas

    Clif Bar Minis

    GU Original Energy Gels

    Roctane Ultra Endurance Gels

    GU Chomps



    There will be aid stations approximately every mile on the run course offering:

    Gatorade Endurance

    Water

    Bananas

    Clif Bar Minis

    GU Original Energy Gels

    Roctane Ultra Endurance Gels

    GU Chomps

    Chicken Broth (after dark)

    Pretzels

    Fruit

    Cola

    Base Salt (location to be determined)



     

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