THANKS!!!!! When you say interchange, can we not go straight through on 149 and get on Dobbin? I guess I can recon on Thursday. I like your edit but it's 120 miles...I know I'll get an earful for that one! That said, it's not a Coach P camp without gravel they say...
Yes to having you join us, would be epic. Vic has graciously offered to help SAG, but I am sure he'd split a day with you if that's an option. Either way you have to come join us for dinner and beers. Maybe chime in on the official camp thread in the Gen Disc forums?
COME ON COACH!! SUCK IT UP!! How bad can an extra 8 miles be when you're tired, saddle sore, sick to the stomach of Gatorade endurance, back sore... Never mind I see your point. Haahaa.
If you're talking about Dobbin-Huffsmith road, I think the last time I DROVE it was a Saturday afternoon early last year, and without a shoulder, there were way too many cars for my taste. I can't imagine being on there on a bike. Down here closer to the woodlands, those back roads aren't as desolate as Jackson road and some of the other roads up north. Anything south of 1488 you really will need a shoulder.
I'll try to make my way out there here in the next week or so and see what I can see.
The tri gods are working against me Coach. Our YMCA pool is shutting down for a month and a half. Thus swimming is out for some time. The PF is getting better, and I've been going to an ART guy that's helping out. But running is still out. The only option is biking. I'm still working toward a sprint tri in late April. What are your thoughts about turning to a bike focus plan for the next few weeks? Do you think it will do more harm than good with the PF? I've been pushing my bikes a bit over the last few weeks, and been following the short course bike and swim workouts, and have felt fine. Thanks Coach!
Yeah, 1488 still sucks. I'm not sure how these pictures will show up, but there are 3:
1. One shows the intersection of 1488 and 149, facing west. Thus the normal course would have you riding next to the barriers on the lower left of the picture.
2. One picture shows a picture of the shoulder on 149, south of 1488. The big barrier here is rumble strips. You can ride to the right of them for most of that way, but there are a few bridges where the shoulder is nothing but rumble strips.
3. The third picture is of spur 149, which has no shoulder, but wasn't very busy the day I drove it.
Based on all that, you could probably continue south on 149 past 1488, then turn left onto spur 149, and take it back north to 1488. The guys will still have to ride about 1/4 mile to the right of those concrete barricades (and maybe even have to get off their bike to get to the right of the barricades). Or they can ride that in traffic. Dealer's choice. That route would add a couple miles to the overall course, but not too much, and it would cut the time riding with those barricades in half, but not eliminate them.
It's also possible to turn left at Dobbin, and follow 105 back into Magnolia and come back into the woodlands the same way you left. I think I mapped this one out, and it's still a little bit long. See the following Link:
Yes, that's pretty accurate. You still have a bit of rough road on the "good" route, but not much. I'd feel much safer going that way. Probably just tell the team to "chill" for that mile or two, and take it slow. Get off the bike and walk around construction signs if needed. Then jam it out once you're clear of the cement barriers. That stretch of 1488 after the barriers is actually my favorite part of the whole course.
So on the bike focus plan, there's those little 30 minute runs sprinkled in. I've done the shorter runs over the last week, and have felt a bit of a PF flare up, so I want to cut back on them, and do them only if it feels ok. Is there any benefit to changing those 30 minute runs over to 30 minute trainer rides? If so, what zone should I stick to? Zone 1 or 2? Or maybe sprinkle in a few intervals?
I'd add them to your ride time but if you can do an intermediary workout -- elliptical anyone -- that might help you bridge the gap back to running. I'd prefer that, or some equivalent, without just dropping the activity for a bike. Is that a possibility?
There's an idea. I hate the elliptical, but I hate sitting on my tail more. I'll take the lesser of two evils. As far as intensity, should I just look at my heartrate and keep it in zone 1?
Hey Coach. Nothing big going on. The foot is still having issues, but getting better. I'll be doing a sprint in a couple weeks, and did a quick race rehearsal last weekend with a bike and run, and was OK with it.
Anyways, I had a thought: Why dont we have a "run jail" training plan?
Chris, good to hear from you. We don't have a plan per se, but we do have the Run Jail and Return to Running notes in the Wiki Here: http://bit.ly/1MKXjhF
Are you suggesting a full plan that folks can load up?
I was originally talking about a plan you can load up, but now that I'm looking at what you've got on run jail in the wiki, that's probably better. Too many different plans and too many different types of injuries to really come up with a plan to load up. But the mods you mention in the wiki allow us to change up our current plan to. Good approach. That's why you're the coach and I'm not. Haahaa.
Just getting back to things. I'm still having troubles with my foot, but I've been 100% lazy for the last 2 months, and I need to move forward. So I've decided to aim for an aquabike in November. I'm going to hack the Half IM plan, and do the following (with your permission): Monday - Easy Spin Bike (Wednesday bike if I miss the Sunday Bike) Tuesday - Tuesday Swim Wednesday - Wednesday Bike Thursday - Friday Swim Friday - Water Running (low priority) Saturday - Saturday Bike Sunday - Sunday Bike
I've juggled it like this because I really cant make it to the pool on Wednesday, and Friday tends to be Family night (I typically work out at night), so anything that I plan to do on Friday needs to be low priority. Obviously that Monday bike is questionable, because it's right after long weekends on the bike.
What do you think?
I hope things are going good for you. Looks like you might be making some progress on the hip.
Oh yeah, and I've been doing a pilates class on Mondays, and then riding my mountain bike into work a couple of times per week. I try to push intensity a bit on that ride, which takes about 20 minutes both ways.
Chris, thanks for the nice note.... I am getting there. So...I think your schedule looks good and I agree on the plan to target an Aquabike. You need something out there!!! I personally think that you should work in 10' of aqua running for both the Tuesday and Thursday swims...then Friday can be hard off.
As for Monday...I'd plan a longer MTB home. So no road bike ride...but on the way home make the MTB session last 45 to 60 minutes. A good ride, but some variety in position and terrain could make compliance (and consistency) better!
Doing that water running when I'm already in the pool will make it more likely to happen. And 10 minutes of it will only seem like a few hours of real running. Haahaa. Do you think I can use Xterra Lava shorts to help me float a bit? Or should I go get one of those flotation belts?
On that mountain bike ride on Monday, should I keep it to the road, or is it OK for me to get off road a bit? I'm still new to the mountain bike, so anything I do off road is pretty weak and low intensity, but fun none the less.
Thanks for the feedback. I agree that compliance should be better. :-) I don't think you need to worry about floating at all, I usually do water running without a belt and it's fine. Unless you have tiny lungs.
I see the Monday ride should be fun so whatever works for you. If there's fire roads or something not too technical go enjoy it. I think this is a great compromise for keeping you fit but also engaged.
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THANKS!!!!! When you say interchange, can we not go straight through on 149 and get on Dobbin? I guess I can recon on Thursday. I like your edit but it's 120 miles...I know I'll get an earful for that one! That said, it's not a Coach P camp without gravel they say...
Yes to having you join us, would be epic. Vic has graciously offered to help SAG, but I am sure he'd split a day with you if that's an option. Either way you have to come join us for dinner and beers. Maybe chime in on the official camp thread in the Gen Disc forums?
If you're talking about Dobbin-Huffsmith road, I think the last time I DROVE it was a Saturday afternoon early last year, and without a shoulder, there were way too many cars for my taste. I can't imagine being on there on a bike. Down here closer to the woodlands, those back roads aren't as desolate as Jackson road and some of the other roads up north. Anything south of 1488 you really will need a shoulder.
I'll try to make my way out there here in the next week or so and see what I can see.
Speaking of the bike, what's the story with the IMTX route?
Thank you Coach!
Yeah, 1488 still sucks. I'm not sure how these pictures will show up, but there are 3:
1. One shows the intersection of 1488 and 149, facing west. Thus the normal course would have you riding next to the barriers on the lower left of the picture.
2. One picture shows a picture of the shoulder on 149, south of 1488. The big barrier here is rumble strips. You can ride to the right of them for most of that way, but there are a few bridges where the shoulder is nothing but rumble strips.
3. The third picture is of spur 149, which has no shoulder, but wasn't very busy the day I drove it.
Based on all that, you could probably continue south on 149 past 1488, then turn left onto spur 149, and take it back north to 1488. The guys will still have to ride about 1/4 mile to the right of those concrete barricades (and maybe even have to get off their bike to get to the right of the barricades). Or they can ride that in traffic. Dealer's choice. That route would add a couple miles to the overall course, but not too much, and it would cut the time riding with those barricades in half, but not eliminate them.
It's also possible to turn left at Dobbin, and follow 105 back into Magnolia and come back into the woodlands the same way you left. I think I mapped this one out, and it's still a little bit long. See the following Link:
https://connect.garmin.com/modern/course/11563797
So on the bike focus plan, there's those little 30 minute runs sprinkled in. I've done the shorter runs over the last week, and have felt a bit of a PF flare up, so I want to cut back on them, and do them only if it feels ok. Is there any benefit to changing those 30 minute runs over to 30 minute trainer rides? If so, what zone should I stick to? Zone 1 or 2? Or maybe sprinkle in a few intervals?
Thank you.
Anyways, I had a thought: Why dont we have a "run jail" training plan?
Are you suggesting a full plan that folks can load up?
Just getting back to things. I'm still having troubles with my foot, but I've been 100% lazy for the last 2 months, and I need to move forward. So I've decided to aim for an aquabike in November. I'm going to hack the Half IM plan, and do the following (with your permission):
Monday - Easy Spin Bike (Wednesday bike if I miss the Sunday Bike)
Tuesday - Tuesday Swim
Wednesday - Wednesday Bike
Thursday - Friday Swim
Friday - Water Running (low priority)
Saturday - Saturday Bike
Sunday - Sunday Bike
I've juggled it like this because I really cant make it to the pool on Wednesday, and Friday tends to be Family night (I typically work out at night), so anything that I plan to do on Friday needs to be low priority. Obviously that Monday bike is questionable, because it's right after long weekends on the bike.
What do you think?
I hope things are going good for you. Looks like you might be making some progress on the hip.
Take care
As for Monday...I'd plan a longer MTB home. So no road bike ride...but on the way home make the MTB session last 45 to 60 minutes. A good ride, but some variety in position and terrain could make compliance (and consistency) better!
~ Coach P
Doing that water running when I'm already in the pool will make it more likely to happen. And 10 minutes of it will only seem like a few hours of real running. Haahaa. Do you think I can use Xterra Lava shorts to help me float a bit? Or should I go get one of those flotation belts?
On that mountain bike ride on Monday, should I keep it to the road, or is it OK for me to get off road a bit? I'm still new to the mountain bike, so anything I do off road is pretty weak and low intensity, but fun none the less.
I see the Monday ride should be fun so whatever works for you. If there's fire roads or something not too technical go enjoy it. I think this is a great compromise for keeping you fit but also engaged.