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New to power training-what equipment is recommended?

Being relatively new to EN, I have trained using exclusively HR in the past. I have IMCdA coming up. Is it too late to switch over to pace/power training? If not, what equipment do I need to purchase? Any recommendations welcome.

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  • Hi Glenn, There is a really great write up on the Wiki "Before you buy a powermeter" as well as several forum threads (including the archived 3.0 version). I highly recommend them while you consider which way to go. I'm a recent powermeter "switcher" too and personally wouldn't ever want to give it up... the precision and feedback is awesome. That said, it does take some investment in learning how - and why - it all works (not that I know everything there is.. far, far from it). The EN Power webinar was invaluable to me for both training and racing and well worth the money. I got my PM as a bundle through Coach Rich and personally feel it was a great deal. All that said, there are folks in da haus who are HR only. Good luck with your decision and at IMCdA!
  • Glenn - one thing you'll want to decide is how "old school" you're willing to go when you look into power meters. There are several flavors of PMs, of which the hub-based Power Tap is probably the most common. If you are handy in dealing with old computer interfaces, you can probably find a "wired" PowerTap wheel for just a few hundred dollars used. You'd really need to do the research before you buy, but that is one way to cut down costs. If you go with a new PowerTap, I personally don't see the justification for spending money to get anything but the heaviest wireless model.

    You have two more decisions to make. One is whether you are going to have a dedicated bike computer or use a single device that can be bike or wrist mounted. If you go the single-device route, teh Garmin 310 xt is the way to go. It will do as a bike computer, pick up the information from your wireless PT, and also function as a great pace (and HR) device for running. It can be mounted on your wrist to bike or back in a few seconds and can be worn in the water. It's not a perfect bike computer (kinda small display), but it's perfectly serviceable. List of $350.

    If you want a dedicated bike computer, teh Edge 500 is a good choice.

    If you now are looking for a pace device for running, the 310 xt is still a great choice. For about half the cost, you can get the old model (Forerunner 305) which a lot of us still have. It has a few issues: (1) won't read power on your bike; (2) only about 10 hour battery life in use; (3) not waterproof, although some people occasionally race with them on.

    You can, in principle, go with footpod-based devices also. there are a lot of them. They won't be as accurate as a GPS, particularly on varying terrain, where your cadence and stride length change. However, they do work inside, although again, you need to calibrate them for new running type.

    If I were starting over and money were an issue but not an absolute limiter, I'd go with the new wireless entry level PT on a sturdy wheel, buy a disc cover from wheelbuilder.com for racing, buy a 310 xt Garmin, and if I could still afford it a 500. (but I would get the 310 xt over a 500 and a 305 I think). There are those who are quite partial to the Saris/PT computers, in part because they can display some things (IF, etc) that the Garmins don't (yet).

    Also, have a look what EN or your LBS might be able to package together for you at a discount.

    It's all pretty overwhelming, but get more feedback here and decide what your priorities are. That will help make your decision.
  • Glenn - If you already have an aero helmet and a disc wheel or disc wheel cover, then start looking at power - but get those other goodies FIRST, they are cheaper and FREE SPEED.

    IMO, 6 weeks out from the race (actually more like 4 or less by the time you get the meter and learn a little bit how to read and understand it) is not enough time to get any value from it, it might even be confusing come race day. I know it's taken me a couple of YEARS to get a good appreciation of how to take full advantage of power during training and racing. I, like many others, had lots of success without a PM, so it's certainly not mandatory to having a successful race. I would vote for waiting, and if you see yourself doing another HIM or IM within the next year, then plan to get the PM so you can start setting it up and using it right after IMCDA, and get into it during your recovery phase, so you're ready to use it to full advantage during your next training/racing cycle.
  • Agree completely with advice already given. The learning curve for a PM is not small and you need to be able and willing to invest the time to really understand how it works. Frankly, the initial investigation, learning, and decision process just to purchase a PM could take you 4-6 weeks. The Power Webinar and the Wiki posts on "before you buy a PM" are must reads. Absolutely consider it and start researching. But a PM isn't something you are going to buy, stick on the bike, and see instant results. I think the distraction at this point in your build up to IMCDA might be too much. So I'm with Al- wait until after IMCDA.
  • I basically agree with Al in that at this point you won't get a chance to train with power, or use it per se during the race. Although if you get it in time for your second RR it could give you some decent information for race day. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you should NOT get it. Even if you just put it on the bike and didn't look at it during the race, you'd at least be collecting data for yourself for your next season training, you'd have some ideas of what you did, when you did it, etc. I bought my powertap about 4 weeks before IMFL 08 before I even started any power training, and used it as a black box during the race. Did my normal race execution, which at the time was HR based, and let it do its thing. But it gave me some good data to work from going into the 2009 season, and the like. If anything I wish I'd gotten it sooner, even if I didn't actually train with power until the same point in time (i.e. Dec 2008), just so I could have had the power data from IMAZ 08 and IMUSA 08 (especially this one).

    So if you're going to get one anyway, and you're sticking with the sport, there's no reason IMO to avoid getting it before the race. Just don't count on using it as a training or race day execution tool necessarily for IMCDA.
  • As a relative newbie to power, I can tell you I finally love my power meter.

    For the first two months of power? Huge learning curve and totally hated it. The little yellow computer was almost thrown out the window a few times. If you are good at tech geek stuff and want to start playing, go for the power meter now.

    Definitely, definitely watch all of the power webinar. That, and the first few chapters of Coggan's "Training and Racing with Power" are also amazingly helpful in understanding why on earth you would want to switch to power and what you are suposed to do with it.

     

  • Thanks everyone for the great input. I believe I will study up with the sites mentioned, do IMCdA without power, but invest as soon as possible (I am doing IM Timberman in August). And I thought all I had to do is bike and run!
  • Glenn- I was part of EN for a year before getting a PM. In that time I read every post and reviewed the data folks posted. Then if someone had a comment about something, I'd go back to the data and try to understand the point that they are making. I did the Power Webinar and read the Book. By the time I got my PM in hand, I felt like we were old friends. I needed to learn how to press the buttons for data, and learn how to ride steady. 16 months later, I finally feel like it is more intuitive riding now.
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