Normalized power

gonsenhauser

I see a difference in my power readings in training peaks between normalized and average power.  I obviously understand the difference however which of these numbers become the most critical on the trainer when trying to hit your numbers?

 

Thanks

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NP

thekidduxc

+1 NP. Average power plays a critical roll in riding steady during a race/race rehearsals (VI=1.01/1.02). But Pavg is not critical in the OS or other training blocks.

thekidduxc

Check out the training with power resources in wiki. It's an incredible resource. Dive in and take your time.

http://members.endurancenation.us/Resources/Wiki/tabid/91/Default.aspx?topic=EN+Power+Training+Resources

morpheus

Hi Joshua,

Trainer work is all about intervals around here. You probably already know that. If you compare AP to NP within the intervals, you'll prob see that they are the same, or super close.

If you compare AP and NP over the course of an hour workout that has big 'ON' time (the work) and scattered 'OFF' time (recovery), that gap between the two metrics will show a pretty big difference.

First priority is keeping a level wattage, at goal watts, across the duration of the interval.

Don't worry, at this time of the year, about anything other than the work time.

Hope this helps.

Edwin Croucher

I use both NP & AP on my screen. These are very useful in pacing out your intervals. I set the NP at Lap NP and the Average power is set at 3 second average on the trainer. That way, If your interval still has time left, you can see what you are currently hitting and push it up.

thekidduxc

Guys, help me understand the value in tracking Pavg during OS intervals? I understand the importance of Pavg during race prep in an effort to Minimise VI; however, I understand the goal of the intervals to absolutely slay yourself and go at or above goal watts from a Pnorm perspective. Am I out of line to suggest this?

Per the post above -
- First priority is keeping a level wattage, at goal watts, across the duration of the interval.
I do not subscribe to this notion concerning what we are doing now.

Is there a strategic reason to evenly pacing ourselves an the OS intervals? Shouldn't we focus on getting the work done during the OS in whatever manner is possible - and save the steady VI for later in the season outdoors?

morpheus

David,
U and I are saying the same thing. I'm trying to keep 95-100 of FTP level across the entire 'ON' time. And, personally, I could care less about how ez I go during the recovery time.

Sorry for the confusion.

Coach Patrick

David, re the steady intervals, rather than just going balls out every interval (sounds like you might be saying that?) I prefer you set a hard target...example your FTP is 205 but you are going to try to hit 210...and ride 210 across the whole interval. I don't want you will a 205 FTP to try and hold 275 for like 3 minutes then crawl home at the end of your 10' interval at 190...

So a balance between ambitiously hard work and quality execution of _that_ work...

gonsenhauser

Got it thanks for the help!  Like you said its really a matter of the effort X interval.

morpheus

btw, love that avatar.