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Hi Coach Patrick, Figured I'd better get started with the posting, just been following along and reading the posts up to now.  I started the NOS but strained my right adductor 2 weeks in so I've been in run jail since.  Slowly building my runs since Nov 22 and have worked up to 21.5 miles/week at a 6:1 run:walk, doing 4 runs a week at TRP or slower.  This week I should be at around 25 miles at a 7:1 ratio following the time schedule in the NOS plan at 4 runs.  I've also been swimming 1 to 2 times a week and have been following the bike schedule but backing down the intervals as the muscle injury allows.  Planning to do the Celebration half Jan 31 here in Florida, but plan to not go all out and just see how the legs feel after.  Planning to start HIM training week 11 after the above in preparation for the Florida 70.3 and should be able to do the testing scheduled in week 12.  Let me know what you think or any suggestions.

Thanks!

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  • RD - Thanks for checking in...any idea how you did the adductor? Would be good to know so we can avoid that in the future! Your return to running is great...super impressed with your discipline!

    As you do these runs, please make sure to warm up well and ease into them; it's the sudden movement that can re-aggravate your leg. Let's be careful!

    I don't see a need to test the run (you can use your half result, ideally, to ballpark it)...there's too much at risk with a 5k test. But yes to the bike and the run!

    I think you are right on track...nicely done.

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks for the input. The strain was from doing a fast finish pick up at the end of a 13 mile run, not smart but learning I just can't be the runner I used to be.
  • Hi Coach P,  Coming to the end of the NOS, I have my half marathon this coming Sunday then I begin my training for the Florida 70.3 in April.  I'll be starting the plan at week 11 but I know I'll have to take it easy on running that week due to Sunday's race, the plan also calls for a Big Day that following Saturday.  I need advice on how to best manage that week following the race with perhaps moving the Big day to another weekend.  Thanks, Rodney.

     

  • RD, it's not that you aren't the runner you used to be, it's that you can't run like you used to. Now you have to be smarter to stay just as fast. image

    In that same vein, you have a ton of time until FL 70.3, and given the half marathon, I'd do the first week of Swim Camp, or even BOTH weeks, then transition to the Half Plan. At the very least, do one week of the Swim Camp plan and see how you feel!
  • Coach P, Thanks for the input, the swim camp looks perfect for transitioning into the HIM program.  I'll let you know how the half marathon went next week.  Rodney.
  • Alright! If you haven't already, check out the Half Marathon pacing guidance in the Run Section of the wiki: http://bit.ly/1lDeQMq
  • Hi Coach P, Well I survived my half marathon race without hurting myself given that groin injury. Had a good race, I took it kind of easy for the first 5 miles averaging a 10:29 pace, the next 5 I picked it up to a 10:00 pace since I was feeling good, then I picked it up to a 9:00 pace for the last 5K which was pretty much a max effort at the end. I had plenty of endurance at the end so I'm really happy with the results of our NOS training. I'm doing the swim camp as you suggested for the next two weeks, then I'll get back into the HIM program to prepare for 70.3 Florida. Thanks for all your helpimage. RD
  • RD, nicely done. I appreciate how you paced that...stronger at the end is always better. Healthy, and strong. I like it!

    Enjoy Swim Camp, you've earned it!
  • Hi Coach P, I'm on week 13 of the intermediate HIM program, just starting this plan coming off of the NOS followed by swim camp for 2 weeks.  I see the long Thursday run is a Split Run, so is that meant to be executed as split 1 in the AM and split 2 in PM or do I do them back to back?  Thanks, Rodney.
  • Rodney, great to hear from you. Yes, split run is IDEALLY AM/PM...it can be AM / Lunch or Lunch/PM if that works, but not as ideal. For days where sleeping in is critical, you can make it one run, but hopefully not often. Just check in with me here...
  • Coach P, thanks for the clarification, I found out tonight I'll have to be a little more careful with my nutrition between runs as I really started to bonk at about mile 2, but had a gel and it got me through. Question, do you have us do the split runs to keep the long run less than 30% of total weekly volume? Just curious. image
  • @RD, yes that nutrition is KEY. image Upside is you keep the metabolism revving longer across your day.

    I want to keep the long run under 2 hours as much as possible...I hadn't started with the 30% idea in mind, but it sure looks like that, doesn't it!? image
  • Hi Coach P, I start HIM wk17 next week which is a test week, I'm nervous about doing the bike test on Wed followed by the long run on Thur. I'm thinking of changing to Mon: swim/45 min run, Tues: bike test, Wed: swim, Thur: 120' run, Fri: swim, Sat: run/bike on the race course(FL70.3), Sun: bike/run. How does this sound to you? Thanks, RD
  • RD, love it. Great adjustment and kudos to you for looking ahead!!!!! image
  • Hi Coach Patrick, I just wanted to let you know I feel as though I had a great race at IM 70.3 Florida last Sunday.  I think the plan worked great and I'm just spending some time recovering as I've been pretty sore this week.  I did a 30 min easy swim on Wed, 30 min walk today with maybe a 60 min walk on Sat.  I plan to get back training next Monday with the short course plan as I have an Oly tri in mid June.  I did write up and posted a race report and have a call scheduled with you on the 26th.  Thanks for all of your help!!
  • Rodney, nicely done!!! Good call on the recovery...that will help you long term for the rest of this season. Looking forward to catching up!!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hi Coach P,  Just an update, I was going along good on the get faster plan but had a little hiccup a week ago last Saturday, I crashed on my bike which is going to slow me down a couple of weeks.  I zigged when I should have zagged and went of my trail I was on and sideswiped a wood fence.  I was going about 21.5 so I hit the ground pretty hard, but I was very lucky, mostly road rash on my right arm and some deep bruising on my right leg, I had a deep cut to my left knee ( it must have hit the edge of my arm rest and had to get it stitched up ).  So I'm a little over a week into my recovery, I did an easy run on Saturday and today of 45 min each, and did a 2 hour ride yesterday all of which felt pretty good.  I won't be in the pool for another week I suppose until the rash heals up, but not worried about that for now.  I plan to run tomorrow and get back into the get faster plan (sans swimming) for the next two weeks, then I move over to the intermediate IM plan starting August 1.  At least the bike is okay, I took the opportunity to upgrade the drive train to the SRAM force 22 components with a compact 50/34 on the front and an 11/28 on the back to be ready for the Great Floridian 140.6 in October.  Do you think I should do any of the tests next week or would it be best to wait and do the tests at the end of August as the plan calls for.  Thanks for reading.  RD
  • RD -

    Total bummer on the crash. I know how much that can hurt even when it's the smallest of things. Good call on upgrading the drivetrain. :-)

    Don't worry about taking a test, recovery is paramount. I recommend the cycling as much as possible as it's a great way to stay loose. You can also begin some weekend longer walks just to get things back up maybe maintain some stamina and we can go from there

    Plse keep me posted.

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks coach P, I'll keep in touch.
  • Hi Coach P, Just wanted to check in, I'm currently in IM week 15 so I have camp week this weekend. Training is going well, I'm going to have to shift the plan to Sat, Sun, Mon. This week I thought I would just bike on Wed and run on Thursday instead of the Wed brick then take Fri off. On the 25th of this month I will be doing the Six Gap Century (bucket list ride) then spending the week in North Georgia with some other Tri minded couples for some R&R but I'll still be continuing with my week 16 training as planned. Everybody will be taking turns running with me during my 3 hour run on Thursday. Swimming may be a little inconsistent but hopefully I can find a good open water swim spot at the local lake. Since I'm doing the Great Floridian for my race I'll be attending the Mt Dora cycling weekend as it fits perfect with my week 18 camp weekend, I'll even get a special medal for doing the Fri, Sat double Century rides and the 56 mile Sun ride, I even get to ride up Sugarloaf Mtn all 3 days??. Well thanks for reading, let me know if you have any suggestions for managing the next 4 weeks. I've been feeling the fatigue, but the ENation plan is making it manageable.
    Thanks
    Rodney
  • RD, man if your race prep gets any smoother we are going to change your forum display name to THE STEAMROLLER. image

    I think everything looks really great to me. My big picture thoughts are:

    1. Keep up with recovery. I would plan on Mondays being off it at all possible.
    2. Workout fueling is now critical. A good workout with bad fuel will still mess up the rest of your week...and for no reason.
    3. Pay attention to your hours of sleep...it's the most important thing you can do...so give yourself a "get to bed time" for Mon-Fri, and Sat-Sun and see if that can help as well!

    Onwards, and photos of your adventures please!!!

    ~ Coach P
  • Thanks Coach!! Will practice my nutrition and get the sleep, I like your idea of setting a time for bed??
  • Hi Coach P, Well the Steamroller got flattened a bit this weekend, it started out good until about 3600yds into my swim and I one nasty Charley Horse in my left calf. This does happen to me occasionally and I've been having some small night cramps during the week even though I've been trying to really keep myself hydrated with electrolytes. I suppose training in the Florida heat is taking its toll. Anyhow, that ended my swim so I was off to the bike. Well right from the go my legs just had no energy and my left calf wasn't feeling too great either and after about 2:30 into the ride it became a real suffer fest, but I gutted it out for the 6:00, but I was spent so didn't do the run. So I went home worked on nutrition and hydration to get ready for Sunday. Well, Sunday's ride went quite well??, did the ride in Clermont and once I got out to the Sugarloaf Mountain area, I just spent the ride doing repeats on the hills out there the came back to finish the 3:30 ride. Off the bike for a :30 run which went okay but the left calf felt a little sketchy. I woke up this morning and the calf was still pretty sore so I'll defer the long run to Thursday, hopefully it will be okay by then as I've had to deal with this post cramp thing before. Anyhow, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Really looking forward to Six Gap this weekend followed by a week of training in Blue Ridge. Hopefully I can find a relatively flat loop for my 18 miler next Thursday. Thanks so much for checking on me, it's greatly appreciated ??
  • Rodney -

    I'm really fortunate to have athletes who make such excellent decisions. Systemwide fatigue is one thing, you'd fatigue to one muscle such as her left calf is certainly a warning sign. If you aren't already, in addition to doing a better job of managing your day-to-day hydration please add in some evening foam rolling and light stretching. I have often found that sometimes calf tightness is the manifestation of an overall tighter hamstring. So check that out as well.

    As you continue training, remember that there's no one workout that's more important than your overall well-being. I will happily have you dial the workout back to simply get it done for time at this point so we can continue to keep you healthy. As you can, please post some pictures/note about your Six Gap Ride experience to the epic forum.
  • Hi Coach, Well seems as though I'm back on track, swam Tues and We'd, that went well and I did my regular scheduled bike WO but no run follow up. Oh, also did my regular run on Tues and did just fine. Got a massage Tues night, really helped. So I went for my long run this morning and felt great, no snags or nags so I extended to 14 miles with no problems. So off to GA in the morning to get ready to climb some hills??. Thanks for the feedback, I do have a history of a hamstring injury on that left side that nagged me for a couple of years but seems to be pretty well resolved but I'll keep on it as suggested ??
  • Awesome!!! Use all those gears, eat like a champ...and CRUSH IT!!! image
  • Hi Coach P, Well I got done, Six Gap is in the books and I had a great ride!! Plenty of leg for all the climbs, I just stuck to my Z3-Z4 power numbers and pushed all the way to the top. Concentrated on nutrition and hydration as it got up into the upper 80s by 11:00AM, but no cramping issues and had plenty of energy left to push the rollers for the last 16 miles.
    So, yesterday I did a short 30 min OW swim, today I did an easy 60 min trail run, tomorrow I plan on a 90 min OW swim followed by a 75 min trainer session per my IM plan and finally do my 18 miler on Thursday as I've got a nice 1 mile flat section of road by my cabin so I'll be able to stop to hydrate/fuel every 2 miles.
    Well that's all for now, let me know of any suggestion you may have and thanks for all of your feedback, it really helps??
    RD
  • Epic! I was looking through your report just this morning. Definitely one for the bucket list. You need to come down a bit from that effort to make sure that you can absorb it. I suggest that you continue with the plan as outlined, but don't worry about hitting all the high-intensity targets this week. Use some extra time to look ahead and plan for those key remaining sessions!
  • @Rodney, how are you feeling!?
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