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DS IM Canada RR2 plan

Hi folks. This is IM#2.IM #1 was the scorching IMCDA in 2015 and did not leave me with any useable data/experience for pacing, only some grit. I have come to really enjoy 70.3 and feeling very confident at pacing that distance, but 140.6 still intimidates. 

I am denial about swimming, have been robbed of most of my swim time the past 2 weeks. On the plus I was able to hammer out 1500 meters at 1:34/yd pacing at IM Victoria, which is more or less the fastest I have ever swum. 

Last FTP test was 5/24, sitting at 286. I suspect this is still accurate, maybe a click higher now. Here are my long bikes in June far:


93mi in 5:30 @ NP 190, 2674ft, TSS 272.9 - felt like total sh*t at the end of this one, failed nutrition miserably, bailed on run.

76mi in 4:18 @ NP 191, 2572ft TSS 212 - felt too easy, had to run 6 on TM due to rain.

60mi in 3:55 @ NP 209, 3402ft TSS 216 - 70.3 training ride, felt great, ran great after

76mi in 4:00 @ NP 206, 1969ft TSS 232 - 2 flats interrupted good mojo, had to end the ride 1 hour short of plan, and thus got no run

78mi in 5:00 @ NP 198, 4446ft TSS 264 - Best long ride to date, but no run afterward

I have not really figured out how to use Best bike split, but given IMC has 6600ft (and bears), shooting from the hip, I am guessing a 6:15-6:30 split. So EN guidance, plus the above, tells me I go for NP 195-200 as 30' @ 180-190, then get to work with AP of 200-210. Thoughts?

As for run, ankle is holding up, for VDOT of 49, calculators are last few long runs are showing a HR of 135 at 8:30/mi pace, were I plant to sit for the first 6 miles, then drop to TRP of 8:05 or so. 



Comments

  • Doug,
    One thing I would look at from your training data is where was your HR on your training rides? It should give you an idea of where it should/could be on race day. That number likely lines up closely to your 135 run HR. I would focus on the HR number and the pace for the first few miles, but I have always found that if I use a pace for the first 6 I have a hard time getting it down from there. I would take a look at that data and add it to your plan.
  • Doug, that looks like 0.68-0.7 IF. If you were going to take 6:15-6:30 I'd say that was a little high, but I think you may be faster. The course isn't very technical (not even many turns), so on race day you can really get going downhill if the pavement is dry. In Victoria I went 2:37 (pretty close to your split) on 0.79 IF. Comparing courses, Best Bike Split would have me in the 5:40s at IMC at 0.67 IF.

    In my course recon, I went 6:18 at 0.63 IF, riding all but 6 miles of the course (mostly the Alta Lake section). But that was riding on the shoulder, taking the descents really easy due to debris, carrying 6 bottles, no wheel cover or aero suit, etc. Race day should be much faster.

    Given the hilly nature of the course I would have power targets for each type of terrain -- flat, small hill, steep hill, downhill, etc. For example, from BBS I have
    Flat - 162
    Minor hill 1-2% - 181
    Medium hill 2-4% - 193
    Major hill 4-6% - 205
    Extreme hill >6% - 209
    Minor descent - 136
    That works out to NP around 171, so your targets might be 25W higher.
  • I'd seriously put bbs in the 'nice to know' pile and otherwise forget about it.

    This -> So EN guidance, plus the above, tells me I go for NP 195-200 as 30' @ 180-190, then get to work with AP of 200-210.

    is probably where I would rest in my thinking. more pragmatically, 195 as first 30', 205' for the remainder, and only if I felt really great after I had done most of the climb back to Whistler would I go above the 205. Most important: just ride your EN Gears. AP means little on the actual execution of that bike, because there are a lot of zeros that will accumulate on descents and bring that average to a misleadingly low number.

    Oh - and the 195 in the first 30' probably isn't going to happen either because you're doing a good amount of ascending in EN gear 3 or EN gear 4. So, use that number conservatively and hold back, but don't get wigged out if it's higher.

    Fun stuff!
  • Doug - I wrote this for you on the dashboard:

    Go East, young man. My wife and I are going to Cle Elum Saturday to ride there (she's prepping for the Courage Classic; I'm just starting IM final 12 weeks.) Weather looks dry on Saturday. An option...https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14960247 x 2, then run on Iron Horse Trail. Water @ turn around.

    I did this route several years ago in the fall preparing for Hawaii & Arizona. Leave @ sunrise, ride from 8-2, run from 2-3, home by dinner. There are toilets & water @ both ends of the 54 mile out and back. It;s one long climb (6% max grade, 1100' out, 1900' back) each way, should be good for IM C. Lightly traveled road which parallels I-90 over Whiskey Dick. You could add 1/2 mile @ each end if you really MUST go 112 miles.

  • What Dave said. In addition:

    • You'll want to tie HR numbers to those wattage numbers that Dave gave you. You'll also want to watch as HR, power, and RPE change as temps and hydration state change. You'll likely learn just how critical it is to stay properly hydrated on these RRs and therefore in the race. 
    • Get off the bike and run 6mi at that bike average heart rate, then allow your HR to creep up to the HR you've see on your long runs...or not. Also fine to stick it at that bike AHR (likely lower than your long run AHR) and wait to see what happens. 
    • I do RRs and race with an interval screen that's giving me 3sec power, NP for the lap, speed, and current HR, then have the Garmin set to autolap every 3 miles (or 5...I forget what I did at WI ). Anyway, I'm then basically watching the numbers and driving this little 3 mile box around the course. I then have another page set up to show me aggregate ride data: avg speed, distance, time, AHR, IF, Pnorm, stuff like that. 

    Good luck!

  • This is great! thanks! Al - I might just see you there. Weather.com is now predicting only 15-20% risk of rain on the UP-Gig Harbor-Port Orchard loop, which get me in close to IMC elevation, but if it looks awful I will be out there - pudgy looking dude on the trek with no brakes...
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