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Hi Patrick! As I told you when we talked a couple of weeks ago, I was recovering from an ankle injury (left foot). Last weekend I somehow managed to hurt my right ankle...This time it wasn't that serious, but it will probably have an effect on my running for a while.

I will have to make some changes to the plan this week and next. I was able to do the bike test yesterday, and the ankle was just fine, but it can't take any meaningful running. So, should I just substitute the runs with bike? If yes, what should I do, specifically?

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  • Olli, I am getting the sense that your local running terrain is not very ankle friendly. You might need to spend some time on the treadmill!!!!  We do have guidance for athletes who can't running out of season, you can read it here. That should help you get a baseline for what's possible. 

    What is your estimated timeline to getting back to running?  Would you be able to swim (or do something else) while running is off the table? 

    Let me know,

    ~ Coach P

  • The Run Jail article was quite helpful, thanks. I would say I'm between level 1 and 2 in that sense. It will take me a couple of weeks before I can start run/walking and one or two weeks after that to get back to regular running.

    Yes, I could swim, and I have a regular swim session on Wednesday night, anyway. And no, no treadmill, please...!!!

    -Olli

  • Olli, great news on the swim! I say you follow the bike modification for your week...the Wed swim fits perfectly on that day, and you should swim one other day (monday or friday)....even without running, I like to take a day off a week in the Winter.

    You are welcome to walk / hike as you are able over the next few weeks so you get back up to some basic strength / coordination!

    How does that sound?

    ~ Coach P
  • It wasn't just a runny nose I had a couple of weeks ago, it was influenza (flu)...meaning I've had to take a break from training again. I can probably start again around end of next week. This means that I will loose weeks 5, 6 and 7 from the Outseason plan.

    How should I get back to training again? I don't think I can just jump right back to week 8 of the plan after such a break and recovery from flu. Any ideas?

    I hope I've had my share of problems and can now finally get back to working out regularly. The positive thing about this latest break is that my ankles have also had time to heal and they feel ok now.
  • Olli I could tell when we talked that something just wasn't right!

    I think the best option is to reboot.

    Step One: We get you back and active now...
    Step Two: We aim for a 1/9 January OS Start
    Step Three: We drop the Get Fast portion of your TSR and plan on having you go OS right into your Half Plan.

    This allows you to build back up safely now, and will make next year a bit snug but not unachievable!

    Thoughts?
  • Sounds smart. Let's do that.

    Can you make the changes in the season plan, or should I contact Coach R for that? I'd also like to add a May 6 half marathon into the plan.

  • @Olli, that's a coach rich deal. I will point him to this thread so he can pick up on it!

    ~ Coach P
  • Ollie, please submit a new Triathlon Season Roadmap request and I'll plan this out formally for you. Thanks!
  • Hello Patrick,

    after the injuries etc in last fall I've been able to go almost 100% according to plan, and it shows! 10% increase in FTP and 7% in run pace between the two tests I've done. I did a half marathon last weekend. Time was ok (1:56), but the race felt "too easy" because I started very conservatively (around 9:15), and was able to run the last couple of miles at 8:10, so I felt I could have done better.

    Anyway, I should start Swim Camp on April 17, but will be on a business trip from April 20.-25., without any chance of swimming. Running will be possible. Do you suggest any changes over the next couple of weeks?

    After Swim Camp I should change to HIM plan on May 1, but will be away from home again from May 1.-8. That will be a ski mountaineering trip to North Norway. It will be a very tough week with long days on skis. I know from experience that it will take some time to recover after that. How should I fit that into the plan?
  • @Olli Raunio -  that is fantastic news! Kudos to you for being patient early on, it is showing now with your progress!

    I am not too worried about a full session of summer camp for you because you had an abbreviated start to your year. You can do 30 to 35 minutes daily runs during this first week.  Our goal here is to keep you consistent why you also get a bit of rest.

    Next week you can do swim camp.  Will be nice to get you back in the water seriously.

     No worries about the first week of the half Iron Man plan. Your trip sounds epic and you should really enjoy it. I bet it's twice as hard as any week I could come up with for a triathlon training plan. :-) Let's plan on reconnecting at the end of that week so we can get you back up to speed with your Normal training week. Have fun, and post some pictures please.
  • Back from Norway yesterday. I'm still a bit tired from last week's efforts, sleeping in a tent in the snow, massive amount of powder skiing and a long drive home.

    The HIM plan week 15 calls for long hours + race rehearsals for the rest of this week. I think doing all that would be too much and would just add to the fatigue. So, how to get back to training routine?

    BR Olli 
  • @Olli Raunio - Wait...where are the pictures? Gotta post some of them in the Epic Forum please!!!  :wink:

    So the Week 15 you see is for the KMD half...but that's really going to be part of your FULL build to Copenhagen. 

    I say that you load the IM plan to end on Copenhagen and we don't "peak" for KMD, but you and I can work it in using the forums. 

    This puts you in to Week 6 of the IM plan which should be much "friendlier" to your current state of fatigue. 

    I would still:
    • Focus on good sleep this week, and hydration.
    • Do the workouts for time NOT intensity.
    • Avoid pushing too hard in any individual session this week. 
    Once you get through this week it's off to the races!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hi there,

    it's two and a half weeks until HIM Elsinore. I did the big day today, with four hours on the bike + one hour run (I couldn't fit in the swim today, so I did that yesterday). Everything was fine, I was able to to hit the zones exactly and negative splitted both workouts without any problems. I felt (relatively) great after five hours on the move, and the only thing that made me quit running was that I had promised to be back by lunch :) 

    So, how should I spend these next couple of weeks?
  • @Olli Raunio -  that is great news! The most important thing you can do over the next two weeks just to write out your race plan. This will cover every step of your day from when you wake up to you at the finish line. It should include details about contrition, pacing (heart rate, power, pace), and even your "one thing" -  what you'll do when the race gets really hard. There are some good examples in the forums. 

    You were also free to add more swimming into your training plan, and give your bike a tuneup… Other than that you are on cruise control with strict instructions to remain safe, and mindful and all of your training sessions into race today.
  • HEELP! It's two and a half weeks until IM Copenhagen and I've caught a flu. No rise in temperature, but headache, coughing, runny nose and a general feeling of tiredness. I'm sure it will go away before race day, but how should I adapt the training plan for this final stretch?

    The last race rehearsal is scheduled for next weekend, but I'm not sure if I'm up to it. How late before a race is it smart to do the rehearsal?

    BR Olli
  • 14 days out is the last possible time. But right now rest is best. Sleep. Hydrate. Stretch. Do all your planning. 

    You can can pick the plan back up next week...no need to force the RR and make things worse; clearly your body is feeling the training load. 

    If you do feel better by the weekend you can do some easy riding, but no more than 2.5 hours on each day! And it would have to be EASY. 

    DEAL?
  • @Olli Raunio


    Here's your updated Season Plan, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is my best outline of how to proceed with your races, but you can ask any / all questions you want. So post away, know that I reply here usually M/W/F each week.

    Power User Tip: Click the Star icon by the Title of this thread to subscribe, and you'll get email updates when I do reply.

     

    Your Notes

    I did IM 70.3 Elsinore last June (5:45) and IM Copenhagen end of August (12:57), then after a four week break cycling 2x week, running 1-2 x week, swimming 1 x week. Started Outseason beg of December. I've had to skip many of the runs due to flu and life...Cycling is going ok, FTP 201 which is the same as last summer. Decided to do just Olympic distance races next summer, due to time constraints. Hope to do next IM in 2019.


     

    Your Races

    • Vantaa triathlon, June 17
    • Kisko triathlon, June 30 (both Olympic distance). 
     

    Season Update

    These are your recommended training plans, including the date you should start each one (sometimes you won’t complete a full plan but transition to another one).  You can change your plans on the Training Plan page by clicking the Move / Change button. Learn more about each plan on the Training Plan Central Page.

    • Last updated by Coach on 01/10/2018
    • On 12/4/2017 Load the OutSeason Plan to end on 3/11/2018
    • On 3/12/2018 load the Swim Camp to end on 3/25/2018
    • On 3/26/2018 load the EN Short course plan to end on 6/17/2018
    • On 6/18/2018 re-load the EN Short course plan to end on 7/1/2018
    • Connect with Coach P
       

    Coach Notes

    I am not sure how your OS is going beyond those colds, but I hope you have found some balance! I outlined your year above; once you are healthy, what do you think your number one goal will be to improve this season in terms of a sport? Bike? Run?

    Let's get to work!

     

    ~ Coach P


    Ps - Let's update your profile picture when you get the chance…it really helps the Team to "get to know you" a lot better.

    You can do that by following this animated GIF (below)…good luck!

     

  • Thanks! Improving on the bike would be my #1 goal this year. I've always suffered on the bike, but been reasonably happy with my performance during the run. In IM Copenhagen, for example, my division rank on the bike was 280, but in the run it was 180. The run didn't kill me, although I had never run a marathon distance before. Maybe this result was a due to sensible pacing during the bike leg. Or maybe I'm just a slow cyclist...? Anyway, OS 2016-17 was the first time I actually got serious with training on the bike, and the increase in FTP was noticeable. I'd like to continue on that path on my way to next IM in 2019.
  •  Thank you for the profile picture, and I totally agree with the bike. There is time for animal work during the year in the outs season, and also a chance to work in some strategic weekend volume as the season approaches. Keep me posted here on your progress in the winter with your FTP. 
  • @Olli Raunio -

    Here's your updated Season Plan, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is my best outline of how to proceed with your races, but you can ask any / all questions you want. So post away, know that I reply here usually Monday & Friday each week.

    Power User Tip: Click the Star icon by the Title of this thread to subscribe, and you'll get email updates when I do reply. 


    Your Notes

    The last race was IM Copenhagen in 2017 (time 12:54). Didn't do any races this year, but trained to improve bike FTP throughout the spring this year. Took some time off of training during the summer because I started to feel a bit fatigued or (maybe overtrained). Started to run and bike again early August and have increased the training load incrementally after that. I'm feeling good and rested now, and also started to monitor morning heart rate and HRV on a regular basis to prevent too tired again. Right now I feel very good and the motivation for training is quite high.I started Run Durability 1 on Aug 20. I've been able to follow the plan quite well.


    Your Races

    • Half marathon, April 2019
    • 06/29/2019 Ironman 70.3 Lahti, Finland 

     

    Season Update

    These are your recommended training plans, including the date you should start each one (sometimes you won’t complete a full plan but transition to another one). You can change your plans on the Training Plan page by clicking the Move / Change button. Learn more about each plan on the Training Plan Central Page.

    • Last updated by Coach on 09/18/2018
    • On 8/20/2018 Load the -- Run Durability 1 (9 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 9/16/2018
    • On 9/17/2018 Load the -- Run Durability 2 (8 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 10/14/2018
    • On 10/15/2018 Load the -- Run Durability 3 (7 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on  11/11/2018
    • >> Transition Early <<
    • On 10/29/2018 Load the OutSeason (Run Focus) Plan, 14wks to end on  2/3/2019
    • On 2/4/2019 Load the -- Swim Camp to end on  2/17/2019
    • On 2/18/2019 Load the Get Faster Training Plan, 10wks to end on  4/28/2019
    • >> Transition Early <<
    • On 4/15/2019 Load the Intermediate EN*Half to end on  06/30/2019
    • On 7/1/2019 Load the -- Post Half Iron Transition Plan, All Levels (2wks) to end on  7/14/2019


    Coach Notes

    I love that you are already doing the run durability program. That's huge! I have laid out the progression from RDP to the OutSeason® . The only change might be needed around your half via the Get Fast plan run mileage, but let's wait and see!@


    Let's get to work!


    ~ Coach P

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