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2016 year end SBR totals

I think this is the 4th year I have posted totals.  Again its not a competition but a prompt to get people to review their own data year over year.   Even if you don't wanna play along and post yours, at least review them.

Numbers were affected this year due to only 1 IM vs. 3 IM's per year and injury recovery in the first have of the year...Also a lot of my just for fun activity was done at longer lower intensities....

Swim - was right in line with previous years.  Bike - was more hrs but less miles (more just riding easy, more MTB, more hills)... Run- a lot less time/miles due to recovery from crash in late 2015.... Weekly TSS lower as a result of easier training/recovery ...Total hrs less but right in line with previous SBR total hrs....

2016

Swim- 427k yds  114hrs

Bike- 7235 miles   401hrs

Run- 1275 miles    214hrs

TSS- 799 per week avg.

Total hrs 728

Side NOTE:  Strength Training total 48 hrs  (never logged prior years cause I actually didnt do any)



2015                                                   2014                                            2013

Swim 444k yds  117hrs                     Swim 505k yds  145hrs               Swim  381k yds   117hrs

Bike 7075 miles  384hrs                    Bike 5843  miles  366hrs             Bike    3700 miles  332hrs

Run 1709 miles  251hrs                    Run 1670 miles   239 hrs            Run     1400 miles   206hrs

TSS 900 per week avg.                     TSS 933 per week avg                TSS  817 per week avg

Total hrs 752 or 2hr per day              Total hrs 750 or 2hr per day       Total hrs  655 or 1.8 per day

Comments



  • * new bike trainer in use since September doesn't measure miles (Kick'r) wondering, how others deal with that. Suspect mileage is short by a couple hundred.

    note that in 2015 I herniated a disc in July, lost a bunch of time after that. Interesting to see the consistency in hours between 2014 & 2015

  • Tim, are you using bike, run and swim in your TSS calculations? If so, how are you deriving a swim TSS? I've read how it can be done, and Training Peaks actually computes one for me, but it seems kinda off in terms of effort relative to the bike/run TSS. I also use a HRM in the pool(if you're a big enough dork you can get away with it, or at least you don't care...), so I think it's using the HR data in there too, but not sure.
  • Duane- yes I do use swim TSS in my calculations. You are correct that it is off in terms relative to bike/run calcs. I do 2 things to combat this. 1. since I do so much wetsuit OWS, pool swimming with simshorts, pullbuoys, fins, paddles, etc all of which are faster than I can really swim I simply overstate my swim threshold pace so that it understates my TSS or at least lowers it to a more reasonable level.... FWIW my current real threshold pace for a 1000 yds test would be around 1:30 per 100yds and I have my threshold pace set at 1:22 per 100yds. 2. In TP I build a PMC for SBR , one for BR , and one each for S , B, and R , which makes sense to monitor them individually and BR without Swim anyway.... I dont think TP uses HR in its calcs but it might be a setting change? Even that would be hard to calc since my swim HR is so much lower than my B/R HR's even at the same threshold type RPE...
  • Good exercice,

     Never took the time to analyse the changes during the years in the sport.

     What it tells me ? 3 things

    1) I doubled my time at the pool for 3 mins race time shaved

    2) Really like my run build since 2013, that might explain why my runs race time are where I PR and where I can catch about 50-60 people in my AG.

    3) for my bike, I might have about 500M of commute, even with that decent volume I am still a bad cyclist.. but never rode a bike before 2013 also lol.



    2013 2014 2015 2016
    Swim distance 37k yds 44k yds 137k yds 326k yds
    Swim Hours 16 15 40 86
    Run distance 502 933 1371 1642
    Run Hours 67 122 181 215
    Bike distance 356 5270 5425 6170
    Bike Hours 34 302 283 354
    Total Hours 117 439 504 655



  • If/when I grow up, I want to be like TC.  Until then, my numbers continue to look much more like The Hoff's.  Speaking of, Scott, to track mileage on the trainer, just buy a Garmin speed sensor (I think it's in the $40-50 range) and attach it around your rear hub.  Sync with Garmin once, it should pick it up every ride just like a PM or HRM.  Set-up time is one minute.

    My total time for 2016 looks like 2015, the big difference being that I swam too much in '15 and paid for it on the bike and run.  Last year, I rode and ran more, swam less, and raced with more balance across all three.  Lesson learned.  

    Year          Swim Yards       Bike Miles       Run Miles        Total Hours

    2014         141,413             1,779               809                 275

    2015         289,602             2,187               986                 407

    2016         233,806             2,826               1,198              397

    I suspect 2017 will involve a bit more time and mileage because I've got two HIMs and two IMs, with a race season spanning from mid-March to the second Saturday in October. 

  • I went from being a total couch potato at the beginning of 2014 to riding a bike the second half of the year. 2015 found me training for a bike tour of Colorado, and a little bit of interest in running. 2016 found me getting into triathlon as a way to branch out and find other things to do for fitness besides just riding the bike. My friend Dave Gardner(who's on EN also) got me to do my first and only tri so far, a little sprint tri last spring. I had to take a couple months off during the summer with some personal matters, but I've since been gearing up for Galveston 70.3.



    I really enjoy seeing the numbers you guys are posting. As a newbie, it's interesting seeing the time and effort required to compete at a higher level. I got a lot of work to do! :-)



    Here's my numbers:

    Year      Swim Yards      Bike Miles            Run Miles     Total Hours

    2014              0                   717.5                     0                    47

    2015              0                   4056(242hrs)      193(36hrs)      278

    2016         47840                2,754(154hrs)      412(71hrs)      245

  • Tim,

    There's is a way in TP to get it to compute a HrTss.  I used it year before I got a footpod for use on treadmill.  TP would compute a TSS just based on my HR input for the duration of the exercise.  It's not supposed to be terribly accurate, but it does produce a result.  I also used it like that a few times during exercise sessions on an elliptical.  

    Whether or not it uses HR on the swim, I do not know, but the input is there since I have a swim HRM.  I set up my TP much like yours, except I don't really include SwimTSS at all in any of the totals.  I did use it last year, but felt it inflated my TSS(and thus CTL) way beyond where it really was.  Based on my own RPE for me, I'd put the TSS value about 1/2 the TSS the software computes.    

    Thanks for posting your numbers.  You're a machine! 

  • No surprises to my totals as compared to the last 2 years.  My swimming increased mainly due to longer swim sessions as I did more solo swims to get in the yardage per the EN plan and less Masters Swims (50-60 mins sessions).  I also did more OWS. On the bike I did approx 95% of the rides per the EN HIM and IM plans including 7-8 100+ mile rides.  Running distance decrease because I ended my run streak in Dec 2015 after ~390 days and dropped back to running 4-6 days a week.

    Year        Swim Yds/Hrs             Bike Miles/Hrs          Run Miles/Hrs

    2016       340,190/129               4,729/274                1,478.5/195

    2015       255,570/97                 3,284.5/201             2,096.2/285

    2014       262,469/104               2,386.5/157             1,261/183

     

     

  • A 390 day run streak is very impressive! I am 56 days in thus far. What benefits did you gain? What was the minimum distance you would run a day? Any advice you would give someone undertaking a journey like this?

  • Jeff

    The key is to make your recovery days very easy and short and you will not have any additional or increased fatigue. I basically followed the EN OS, HIM, IM advance plans, and on the off day(s) I would run a very easy 2-3 miles. These runs were more like an active recovery workout. My shortest runs were 2 miles, which would be the days after races or the 2 times I was sick. Running 1 mile was just too embarrassing for my ego. I also didn't develop any injuries. I really believe the streak greatly contributed to my improved endurance and speed. In 2015, I set PRs in the 5K, 5 miler, HM, full marathon and IM marathon.
    Again, I think it's important to run easy on your easy days and if you're not training for a race, do most of your runs at Zone 1 to TRP paces.

    Good luck!
  • I've got ten years of consistent data easily accessible (7 more on an old computer that I can't retrieve easily); just divide by ten for the annual average!:

                         #/hours/distance                  (2016 in parens)

    • Swim:  1190/2978/2,654,645 meters   (99/79/225,014)
    • Bike:    1505/2978/47984 mi                (148/294/4730)
    • Run:     1576/1412/9610 mi                  (163/125/822)
    • Weight: 894/536/...                               (112/64/...)
    • Ski:       162/294/
    • Totals:   5390 events, 632 hrs               (592/709/...)    I just use the free TP online, and I haven't set up my WKO to give an annual total TSS - just weekly, and a PMC. I estimate about 35,000 TSS for the year.

    I've used HR to get a TSS for weight room (about 25/45 minutes), skiing (about 60/hour of actual downhill work time), and hiking (about 12/hour) in TP's WKO 4 program; it also calculates swim TSS. 



     

  • Im enjoying seeing everyone's totals, there are some impressive athletes with years of consistency on the team! Ive never done anything more than glance at year end totals, so I was interested in seeing what 3 years of totals looked like.



    2014 was my first full year of endurance training, sprint and oly tris and first 1/2 marathon in the fall. 2015 saw more sprint and olympics and first full mary in the fall. While I did a few sprints in 2016 my swim/bike was in support of run training for a BQ attempt at Chicago (which was successful!).



    My major tri limiter has been my weak swim which is perpetuated by the nearest pool being an hour away (I live in the sticks). Ive finally made the commitment to improving the swim which is a major commitment of time, but it is what it is. I expect my 2017 numbers to be much higher with my first 1/2 and full IMs this year!



    Year     Swim Hrs        Bike Miles/Hrs       Run Miles/Hrs      Total Time

    2016     96,250/44.5   1862/131               1096/168.5            344

    2015     59,100/29      1548/96                  949/142                267

    2014     28.5                3036/179               826/127                334
  • Wow. Never really looked at my annual data before and it was enlightening. I expected to see a build in total vol across all 3 sports as my ability to train increased. Instead, I saw a build from 13 to 14 to 15, but 16 was static relative to 15 and tss was even down. results wise 2016 was lack luster as well and I felt beat down most of the year. interesting. here are the numbers:
    2013 Swim 76 hrs Bike 195 Hrs Run 137 Hrs avg tss 620/wk total hrs 408
    2014 swim 96 hrs bike 262 hrs run 178 hrs avg tss 702/wk total hrs 536
    2015 swim 109 hrs bike 307 hrs run 200 hrs avg tss 807/wk total hrs 616
    2016 Swim 97 hrs Bike 306 hrs run 214 hrs Tss 710/wk. total hrs 617

    It is interesting to see how much more some of us respond to training stimulus than others. Or I might be jumping to conclusions there. Taining smarter, recovering better, better technique, better dietary habits all also come in to play.

    My goal this year might be to try and get more quality into my hours. Especially on the bike and in the water where my chances of injury are reduced.
  • Thanks for the thread Tim. I often look at my activity build over build, but I've never really looked at it year over year.

    2016 Swim 137,178 (43:53) / Bike 2,821 (167:28) / Run 1,126 (173:00) | 1xIM, 1xHIM, 1xMarathon, 1x50K
    2015 Swim 131,669 (44:26) / Bike 2793 (169:42) / Run 736 (107:45) | 1xIM, 2x HIM
    2014 Swim 188,083 (62:42) / Bike 2823 (167:41) / Run 681 (110:02) | 2xIM, 1x50K

    Of note to me in these numbers:
    I added significant run volume in 2016 (distance, time and runs). This was in part due to the early season marathon and due to the fact that running seems to be my default sport. I'm surprised at the consistency of my bike totals year over year. Especially given that 2014 was a 2xIM year. I need to get more miles in on the bike. I'm hopeful that a solid JOS will provide those miles. Finally, I'm surprised, but I should not be, by the swim volume in 2014. Basically I don't swim unless I have a race on the calendar and even then it's a fight. More consistency in swim volume will be a focus in early 2017 since I have an August IM instead of a November IM this year.
  • Year     Swim Yds/ Hrs   Bike Miles/Hrs       Run Miles/Hrs      Total Time 
    2016     465,306/160   5,127/336             1,354/200            596
    2015     461,815/156      5,881/337             1,399/200             593
    2014     315,225/112      5,981/428           1,087/165 705 

    Continued high volume swimming with little to show for it image. More running at IM pace and less speed work. Less biking but more attention to watts on long rides. Once again, very few rides over 100 miles. Any year that ends with Kona is by definition a good year!
  • I'm gonna need a 3 day rest break to recover from reading all the work you type "A" personalities have posted! 

  • I like Jimmy's comments / observations regarding how we all respond differently.....different ages, athletic abilities, work loads, family loads, climates for training, dietary habits, sleep habits, experience levels all coming into play here.......

    SS

  • #workworks



    Year        Swim Yds/Hrs     Bike Miles/Hrs        Run Miles/Hrs     Total Time

    2016         553,878/177              6,365/389                  1190/151             717    --- Best result was 9:41 Kona w/ 5' penalty (Did 1 IM, 1 HIM, 2 Oly)

    2015          562,643/180              5,991/340                 1173/147            667    --- Best result was 9:26 IM Coz (Did 2 IM, 1 HIM, 1 Oly)

    2014            54,912/42               2,602/145                  868/102             289    --- Best result was 4:44 Half IM (Did 2 HIM)


    Blog: www.lackofhustle.com Strava: www.strava.com/athletes/2393839

    2017 Races: Puerto Rico 70.3, Oceanside 70.3, Chattanooga 70.3, Eagleman 70.3, Worlds 70.3 (hopefullysmile)

     

     


  • Posted By Rob Mohr on 04 Jan 2017 11:41 AM


    #workworks



    Apparently, volume does its bit as well... that's a LOT of swimming, Rob.

  • In 2015, most of it was done in a 20-yard pool in NYC! Thankfully the bulk of the 2016 yards were logged in an outdoor 25-yd pool with the Tower 26 group in LA. Nice to swim with a group, especially when done outside. Don't think I could stand that volume in a different setting.

  • Posted By Derrek Sanks on 01 Jan 2017 11:28 PM

    No surprises to my totals as compared to the last 2 years.  My swimming increased mainly due to longer swim sessions as I did more solo swims to get in the yardage per the EN plan and less Masters Swims (50-60 mins sessions).  I also did more OWS. On the bike I did approx 95% of the rides per the EN HIM and IM plans including 7-8 100+ mile rides.  Running distance decrease because I ended my run streak in Dec 2015 after ~390 days and dropped back to running 4-6 days a week.

    Year        Swim Yds/Hrs             Bike Miles/Hrs          Run Miles/Hrs

    2016       340,190/129               4,729/274                1,478.5/195

    2015       255,570/97                 3,284.5/201             2,096.2/285

    2014       262,469/104               2,386.5/157             1,261/183

     

    That's one hell of a streak! I'm certainly impressed. Love that you just kept rolling, no matter the distance, one day at a time. And 2100 miles in a year is no joke. Again, very impressive.




    Blog: www.lackofhustle.com  Strava: www.strava.com/athletes/2393839

    2017 Races: Puerto Rico 70.3, Oceanside 70.3, Chattanooga 70.3, Eagleman 70.3, Worlds 70.3 (hopefully)

  • @Rob, thanks for the kind words! It's neat knowing you swim with the Tower 26 group...I just stared listening to the Tower 26 Podcast. It's very informative.

  • Posted By Derrek Sanks on 05 Jan 2017 10:57 PM


    @Rob, thanks for the kind words! It's neat knowing you swim with the Tower 26 group...I just stared listening to the Tower 26 Podcast. It's very informative.
    Yup! It's a solid group. I enjoy the podcast too. Bigger numbers these past few weeks has pushed me to lane one, meaning that I get my ass kicked by Holly Lawrence every MWF. Tough to say whether I'm left inspired or demoralized...
  • I swam ucla masters with coach Gerry for many years. he is a great swim coach - we used to have breakfast together (oatmeal) after workouts at the ucla coop.



    I have many friends that still swim with him at his current program @ pacific palisades santa monica, as well as those still @ ucla masters.



    the highlight of his program for me was training for the annual usa masters 1 hour postal swim and trying to beat the 4000 scy/hour barrier by as many yards as possible. I also did the sunday morning manhattan beach and santa monica beach  ocean swims with him or the LATRI club where we would meet @ tower 26 or on the pier

      

      I now live in naples fl and I still miss the program and my swim friends
  • @Arnold - That's awesome. I'll tell Gerry you say hi tomorrow. I'm guessing I've run into your friends that swim under Gerry at the Pali High pool. And yes, he's a great coach. I've learned a lot over the past year. The Santa Monica beach swims (meeting at Tower 26) still happen - now done every Wednesday at 6AM during that stretch as opposed to Sunday, kicking off in April and go until mid October. If you're ever back, you should definitely drop in for either a beach session or a pool session at Pali High.
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