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2017 JOS Wk2 Bike Thread - Get to work

Really great first week of work & testing under our belts! now it's tiime to get to work. 

The important thing aside from doing the work is to be conscious of how hard you are working. By the end of your last set, do you have more? or was it REALLY hard. For those of you that are new to this, that is the sign of a good vs not so good test! It also creates the opportunity for working harder next week. Remember, the goal is to be doing your WKO where your Avg Watts are at 95-100% of FTP. If you are finding it easy(I hope not) or just difficult, this might be the cause for bumping your FTP and doing harder work. Remember, you are capable of much more than you beleive

harder work now = faster YOU in the race season!



Beyond the physical work, is the psychological work of pushing through the pain, this will help you oodles on race day!

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  • @Scott: great insight and great to have confirmation I finally did a bike test right.
  • True confessions here. I skipped the bike test b/c I haven't been on my bike for months (practically speaking) and would've killed myself! Dropped my FTP in Zwift from 112 (pretty much end of outseason; was outdoors after that) to 92 now (such tiny #'s compared to everyone else!). I hardly broke a sweat on the bike workout last week, so I'll bump up to 97 next workout, and maybe up another 5 the following workout if it feels good. I've learned with the bike that not being able to keep up with the smart trainer = pure misery, so I'm starting on the conservative side and will enjoy the benefit of Zwift prompting me to up my FTP when it sees me doing better.

    QUESTION: I think the warm up / cool down is in addition to the main set, so the 60' cycling workout on Tuesday is actually a 1:35' workout (25' WU + 10' CD), correct?
  • @Catherine
    The Tuesday bike is about 60 min TOTAL. The 3X 10 (2) main set is 36 minutes with a warm up & cool down on each end of that.
  • i have to confess, when I had a dumb trainer, I did a 12 minute warm-up that had some increasing spin ups, now i just pedal along as it's programmed in trainer road.
    today i did saturday week 2, trying to do a harder tuesday ride since I missed saturday's ride while skiing. I also, only do the cool down as per program. Today, i actually knocked off ten minutes from the warm up and only did a 6 minute warmup, resulting in a 1:20 Wko..
    very well done 3 sets at FTP, hoping this is a sign of my pre-os work starting to show up!
  • OS Wk2 Tuesday Ride done a day early.  I'm attending a wedding this weekend, so Coach Patrick has me bumping up the workouts by a day.

    Just cranked some tunes and got 'er done!!!

    https://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/4945624-2017-os-wk2-tue-beg

  • Nice job Jason! I use trainer road too and can't figure out how to attach my workout for others to view. Can you help me?!

    Way to get the work down early BTW. Gotta take full advantage of the food and drink of a wedding!!

     

  • Ride done this morning....pretty happy with it.
    Hit all the numbers and felt good afterwards.
  • Well I must admit to something...not sure what to call it...not stupidity yet...LOL....first I moved the Thursday workout to Tuesday...I just wanted to do the intervals....and I decided to 1:00 intervals instead of 30sec...why? well mainly because I am used to doing Sufferfest Revolver which is 16x1min:1min...I was prepared to do two things...first...I did the intervals within the proscribed zones...not at the Sufferfest targets...and second- I was prepared to cut the whole thing short if I was overdoing it...in the end...I had a very good session...felt solid across all the intervals and then finished off with a nice 30min. Brick Run.....My FTP may be a tad low right now but if feels right.. I'm not bumping it up unitl at least week 4 as I had not been riding since October...I do not want to bury myself early and prefer to have the build be more gradual...Keep on Kickin it everyone
  • Tuesday's bike in the books 3X6 .96; .96; .99. Finished with 2X5' @ .81 & .84.  I felt quite tired from the 2nd test on the weekend but got up and completed the workout as prescribed. 


  • Yesterday's bike work was tough for me. I did ok through the first two 10' intervals but hit rock bottom about 8' into the third. I tried some new nutrition (Infinit) yesterday and I'm not sure what impact it had but I started dry heaving and had to back way off for the last couple of minutes. So....I had 28' minutes at 1.0 before coming unglued for 2'.

    I then took 2' to recover and completed 8' at Z3 and felt fine. Not sure if it was the work or nutrition but I nearly puked. 

    Here's the wko: https://www.strava.com/activities/834856270
  • Tuesday work from you guys is looking strong, consistent, on track!

    My Tues morning was rough: https://www.strava.com/activities/834908140

    But then again, if you wanna hang with this group.......
  • Nice job Jason! I use trainer road too and can't figure out how to attach my workout for others to view. Can you help me?!

    Way to get the work down early BTW. Gotta take full advantage of the food and drink of a wedding!!

     

    I just open up Trainer Road in my web browser.  Go to My Career and click on the workout I just did.  From there I just copy/paste the URL into this forum post.

  • If its not on Strava, it didn't happen... So I post all my swim/bike/run to Strava.  I just use my Garmin on the spin bike tho, which I pretty much make my training plan the class for the day.  Funny - one of my students on Tuesday stated after class - "So, I guess your training season started..."
  • Like a noob I mixed Thursday and Tuesday wrkout.. so did the 30/30. Really love those.
  • I did the tuesday WKO on monday as I have swim masters on Tuesday mornings - THAT was a wake up call as I did the saturday wko.. about to jump on drainer and do the 30/30s.... coffee almost dun
  • Looking forward to the 30/30's! @ Scott, my coffee is at half way right now. Time to get the mind right!
  • Well the 30/30's were not too bad this morning,  the run after, not so much
  • if you are used to do some sufferfest videos, they are a few that looks like the 30/30's
  • Workout done the 30/30's seemed to be not a smooth, that is my power was jumping around more than usual.  Finished up with two short set 5' and 7' .82 and .83 to get in the hour. 

    I have a new and 2nd mantra for this year.  1st one, 'Just 5 more minutes'.  When I'm done that's what I want to do on the bike, even easy work to help with the weight loss. I have a similar idea for the swim just 100M more, run is a different story.  2nd one 'Better than 1921'.  This was my number for Lake Placid in 2015 and I want have better numbers (FTP, lower weight, and time than that guy). 

    The number is actually still on my bike which did not come out of the bike box until 4-5 months ago from that race.


  • 30/30's in the books. Solid ride overall,101% ride on TrainerRoad. Looking forward to seeing how everyone faired. 
  • Like a noob I mixed Thursday and Tuesday wrkout.. so did the 30/30. Really love those.

    I am a noob and I did the same thing! Oh well, carry on I suppose!
  • HI JOS peeps!  Its threshold Thursday!

    Here's how I mentally get through a threshold interval, and it is 90% mental.  Let's say I have a 15 minute interval I am going after, my legs are not fresh from the week's cumulative fatigue, it is early in the morning and I know if it is going to get done it will have be at the beginning of the day.

    First I warm up those large muscles well which includes 12 or more minutes at Z3 effort.
    I drink well before and go in hydrated and I use a small bit of coffee before the Z4 intervals begins.

    Then, as I begin the set, I don't think about 15 minutes, I focus in the first 5 minute block and mentally tell myself I can do 2 minutes, then 3, then only 2 minutes left to hit the 5.  Once I hit the 5, I am feeling the work and I am mentally telling myself I need to get to the 10 minute mark.  I am focused on form, cadence, and the number (for me 300 or better).  Then I tell myself that when I get to 8:30 I only have 90 seconds to the 10 minute mark.  I push through to 10 and tell myself I can to anything for 5 more minutes.  I break the 5 minutes left down to 1 minute intervals.  At this point, things are and should be tough.  But I dig through it, I fight for each of those minutes, I arrive to 13:30 and get it done for the next 90 seconds and it is over.......

    My point is, break it down to manageable pieces, mentally play tricks on your body by doing so, go in hydrated, use some caffeine if needed, and celebrate your accomplishment, then move forward to the next block....

    Thursday threshold work early: https://www.strava.com/activities/837095832
  • I missed Tuesday's bike workout so I ended up doing that wko this morning instead of the 30/30s since Tuesday had a red exclamation mark next to it - not sure if that was the right thing to do. Looking forward to doing the 30/30s next week - love those fast intervals! I play that same mental game Shaughn mentioned and it's easier to tell myself I can do anything for 30" vs 6 minutes :) Didn't have time to add the run this morning so I'll tackle that after work. Oddly enough it won't stop raining in SF but hoping to get outside for it!
  • Workout done the 30/30's seemed to be not a smooth, that is my power was jumping around more than usual.  Finished up with two short set 5' and 7' .82 and .83 to get in the hour. 

    I have a new and 2nd mantra for this year.  1st one, 'Just 5 more minutes'.  When I'm done that's what I want to do on the bike, even easy work to help with the weight loss. I have a similar idea for the swim just 100M more, run is a different story.  2nd one 'Better than 1921'.  This was my number for Lake Placid in 2015 and I want have better numbers (FTP, lower weight, and time than that guy). 

    The number is actually still on my bike which did not come out of the bike box until 4-5 months ago from that race.


    Gordon - I use that mantra for most things in life - including IM races.  After mile 18... Just till mile 19. I'm going to keep going till I see the 20 mile marker... and so on.
  • On schedule with workouts.  My hamstrings are killing me after this morning's workout.  That's all.
  • So far: Week 2 has been doable. Hard, but I am hanging in there. It is good to have this level of structure back into my workouts.  
  • Well not every day is a breeze...whew...I did Thursday workout on Tuesday so I was doing 3x8 today...I do the workout to Sufferfest Angels which is a3x8min. workout...perfect...today i cracked 2/3 of way through the last interval...short spin and finished as strong as possible....( my heart rate was elevated so I knew it wasn't gonna be my best day...I did this last week and HR was at 140 for the same intervals/power ..today it was 160...)...I was able to get a short brick run in...but definitely looking forward to the additional rest day tomorrow.
  • edited January 19, 2017 10:05PM
    Hard work produces great rewards right? QOM and 4 PR's :-)
    https://www.strava.com/activities/837595277

  • Actually felt good on the 30/30's today.  Also was able to get the run in right afterwards  and had the energy to do it.
  • I did the 30/30's this morning.  Got through them but the Z3 at the end was tough.  Was going to do the run as a brick but did it a few hours later instead.  I think I got a bit dehydrated during the ride today.
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