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Jason Maclellan Year One Coach Thread

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Here's your personal Coach Thread, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is here to guide you through your first year on EN, so you can always come back here. 

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Your WHY and Goals

Coming soon...see homework below!

 

Your Season Outline

These are your recommended training plans, including the date you should start each one (sometimes you won’t complete a full plan but transition to another one).  You can change your plans on the Training Plan page by clicking the Move / Change button. Learn more about each plan on the Training Plan Central Page.

  • Last updated by Coach on 06/22/2017 
  • Complete the Trial Testing Week, save your Bike and Run Zones to the My Zones Page.
  • On 6/26 Load the Intermediate 2017 Short Course, 20wks to end on 9/10/2017
  • On 9/11 Load the Beginner Post HalfIron Transition Plan, All Levels (2wks) to end on 9/24/2017
  • On 9/25 Load the Beginner Run Durability 1 (9 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 10/22/2017
  • On 10/23 Load the Beginner Run Durability 2 (8 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 11/19/2017
  • On 11/20 Load the Beginner Run Durability 3 (7 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 12/17/2017

 

Coach Notes

I think that you are in a great place right now... you have a few months under your belt and an OLY far enough away to get fit without getting too carried away. Our first step, after doing the tests that matter (if you can't guesstimate your zones) is to get you integrated on the training plan. You don't have to do ALL the workouts...I really just want one good session a day (you can use the color codes to keep the most important workouts in the week). 

Once we are through your OLY, I have specified that you load up a Recovery Plan and then head over to the Run Durability Program to start laying the foundation for next year's 2 x 70.3® schedule. I am happy to talk you through this on our call!!

Coach Contact Points

These are all the key points in your first year where we must talk. You can schedule all calls with me for these times online here. Please remember to include your phone number.

  • Welcome Call in Week One (set it up here)
  • Coach Call in Week Two to talk about your season (set it up here)
  • End of Trial Call -- We review your experience & Unlock Year One / Race Execution for you (set it up here)
  • End of Season Call -- We review your year & Strategize for your “gap” and Year Two (to be announced)

For short or last minute questions, we recommend you use the Red Chat Icon on the main Members website
We have also organized a complete chart of the best ways to contact us online here

Your First Month on the Team

You have quite a few things to do when you start up. There are instructions on the top of the website, but you can review them under Resources / 0-- First 30 Days on EN.  If you have any trouble, don’t hesitate to reach out via the chat icon on the main Members website here.

 

Your First Year Inside Endurance Nation

RACE EXECUTION and how we can help you get faster by being smarter on race day. There are no medals for great swims or getting to the top of a hill first — on race day only your finish time counts. There are many ways of being faster, and here are some of the resources we have to help you out.

- The Four Keys of Race Execution Video: The Coaches walk you through the macro level elements of a successful race.

- Distance Specific Guidance: Learn the fundamentals of racing Short Course and Long Course events, from each discipline to pacing zones, etc.

- Race Specific Pages: We have aggregated information on specific races from the internet, race reports and even our own coaching resources. You can find your race Master Racing Page section.  

- The Race Forums:  You can search for race reports or connect with your teammates. There are sections for 70.3, 140.6, and Marathons

Your Homework

Tell Us Why You Choose EN & Your Season Goals

  • Please reply below with WHY you chose Endurance Nation and WHY you train/compete.
  • Whenever possible, please identify your goals -- time, body composition, completion...the sooner you put them down the sooner we can get towards achieving them. 

Looking forward to working with you this year,

~ Coach P

Comments

  • Thanks for this, looks great and excited to get going. 

    WHY I chose Endurance Nation - I stumbled across your podcasts and really liked the sound of your philosophies and training approaches. What i was hearing made sense - work works, if you want to run fast fast go fast and I liked the idea of doing more fast work in the winter when there's less time to get out and go longer when the weather's better. 

    WHY I train and compete - I've recently got back into training and it reminded me how much I enjoy the feeling of being healthy and fit and how good it is to have something to strive for. I swam competitively when I was young and so I enjoy competition in general but also seeing how far i can push myself. 

    My goals for this year are to get back into training consistently and I want to complete my OLY tri in Sep in under 2:45. 

  • @Jason MacLellan -  thanks for the background! I have also found that a consistent training routine with intermittent competition also keeps me fairly sane as a former competitive athlete.  it doesn't hurt that the community is fantastic and can't be beat!

    Excited to have you on the team and work with you towards your goal of the season.

    ~ Coach P
  • @Jason Maclellan - Great to talk last week. I wanted to close the loop with some of my notes for you...

    Since it's been a while, our top goal is to get you back on being consistent. I want you doing something almost every day (except rest days), don't freak out about if it's swim / bike / run, just get it done. And since your strongest discipline is the swim, it is a lower priority as well. To be frank, as much frequent running you can do… Even if it's one or 2 miles… will make a big difference. 

    I can see you are getting the work done on Strava. Here is how you can make sure that you are 100% connected to the Team (and me) via Strava: Learn More.

    You can move your long ride to Sunday to be with the group; would you be able to do the "long run" of 60 minutes in the early AM on Saturday so you can still have family time? That would really make the week scheduling much easier....but it's 100% your call. 

    As for Mallorca, I assume you'll have the bike? We can get really creative there..let me know what you think your time to train might be. 

    As for the Powertap stuff vs Pedals, we use Wheelbuilder.com for our wheels. You can contact them online and tell them you are an Endurance Nation athlete when you ask for the pricing. Not sure if it really matters given how far you'd have to ship it...but worth checking out!

    Let me know how things are going when you can!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hi, was good to talk to you and thanks for this. I am managing to get the long run in on a Saturday so its working out ok so far. In general I am enjoying the training and already can feel much fitter even though it's only been 4 weeks.  

    I am planning to have the bike in Mallorca. I'll be there for 13 days and should have plenty of time for training in the mornings (2 to 3 hours a day) so could fit in a more long rides than a typical week. 

    I'll take a look at the wheels. I have done a few of the bike intervals on the Watt bikes at my gym, which seems ok so might keep that going for a while. 

    Jason 

  • @Jason maclellan -  thank you for the update. I think your trip sounds fantastic, and I would plan on doing as many 2 to 3 hour bike ride as you can. There's no better way to boost your fitness. The key there is just alternating those bigger bike days with a lighter day such as an open water swim or a 45 minute run at TRP pace. 

     The only key session you'll have each week is that long run which we will want to keep on the program. Maybe you outline what you think the plan should look like I can give you some advice? 

    I prefer this approach so I'm not creating a training plan for that messes up your vacation!
  • sounds good. I will keep the long run and probably the mid-week run but try and do 3 longish rides. I will fit in a couple of swims where I can but I'm not fussed about missing those. I'll see how it goes in the first week and how I feel with the extra mileage. If i feel good then i will do the same and maybe add a little. My bike is where I feel i can improve the most so hopefully just doing the miles will help
  • Hey @Coach Patrick, thought I would check in after completing my Olympic tri. My training went well. Over the 11 weeks I only had 4 or 5 days that I couldn't train. I enjoyed the workouts and felt my fitness and speed improve.

    As for the race my goal for the race was 2:40 based on swim: 25, bike 1:20, run 50.

    Swim: it was a sea swim and the conditions were quite hard. I didn't feel like I was swimming fast and felt like I had to sight more often than I normally would but I felt like it was still ok. I'm not sure what happened but a group of about 30 of us managed to miss a turn and head quite far off course and then had to swim back to the course. I came out of the water and looked at my watch and it said 35 minutes. I couldn't believe it as my race prep sessions were in the 23s and the slowest I have ever swum a 1500 is 27. It turned out I had swum 2.1k so that explains the time however at the time I knew I had blown my goal time and in my best discipline however I managed to put it behind me and focus on biking and running as well as I could.

    Swim Time: 36:34. Overall 35/212, Age 13/63

     Bike: I tested my FTP 3 weeks before and it came out as 217 so my plan was to aim for 205 for the bike leg. I had never raced with a power metre before but it really helped me to not go too hard up the hills and put the power down where normally I would have been coasting. It wasn't a fast time but I felt like I performed to my potential and finished with AP at 208 and NP at 210.

    Bike time: 1:14:23. Overall 102/212, Age 36/63

     Run: I went out hard but manageable on the run. I was pleasantly surprised to see 07:30-07:40 for my mile paces. I ended up doing the first 5k in 23:32 which is bang on my 5k pr. It was an out and back run and the way back was into a pretty strong head wind so it was a bit of a sufferfest. My mile averages went up to just over 8 minutes but I managed to hold on to finished with a 10k PR.

     Run time: 47:57. Overall 87/212, Age 31/63

     Overall time was 2:42:09. Overall 72/212, Age 28/63.

    Although I missed my goal time if I had even a halfway decent swim I would have been much closer to 2:30. I was pleased with my execution on bike and run and 28th out of 63 for my age group seems ok on 11 weeks training after 9 years in inactivity.

    Really enjoying EN so far, I haven't been very active in the forums but I think I have consumed every piece of content you have produced (and there is a lot of it!). I am looking forward to starting the RDP plan. I did sign up for the Zwift academy for a bit of fun and while the workouts are quite hard  I feel like I would like to finish it. Do you think this will be a problem doing this with the first few weeks of the RDP plan? 

  • @Jason MacLellan -  Report. Nothing like adding 10 extra minutes to swim and only missing your time go by two minutes. That is perhaps only be by the fact that you PR your 5K and 10K run times in an Olympic distance triathlon!!!!!

    I guess I’m going to have to make you swim and bike before all of your 5K tests in the future!  :D

    All in all, I see some good lessons learned and lots of new fitness as well. The winter training should really help you out especially with the running for long-term improvements.

    If you are on Zwift, you should definitely try to meet up with us to ride as a team. We have some great rides together. There’s information on that in Resources / Wiki under cycling.  Here is the invitation to our chat group if that helps:

     You're invited to my new group 'EN Sunday ABP Ride' on GroupMe. Click here to join: https://groupme.com/join_group/29902223/JHEyw3 https://groupme.com/join_group/29902223/JHEyw3
     Zero issues with you doing Swift Academy. On those days you can either not run or Doll the runway down. Remember in the fall, we determine success by the number of runs we do, not the distance of any particular run. A mile run keep the streak alive!

    Talk to you soon, 

    ~ Coach P 
  • Thanks for this and will definitely check out the team ride on Zwift. Looking at the time it is 1 in the afternoon here so will be tricky to make it but will definitely join when I can. I tried a race on there the other day in C cat (1 am 2.5 w/kg so only just in c). I thought i would go with the bunch to start and see how long I could last. After 10 minutes I was in pieces and ended up getting dropped and suffered alone to the end of the race to finish 3rd last! The only way is up :-)
  • @Jason Maclellan -  The best part is someone is always riding in Zwift. If you posted to the group me, I’m sure someone will join you whenever you do ride! For sure you should look at my activities after following me and then follow all the people who I follow so you can add them to your Rolodex. :smiley:

     Racing is just such an incredible work out, my guess is you will quickly improve. Suffer, but also improve. 
  • Hey @Coach Patrick have been enjoying the RDP plan however I've now got a sore foot which is preventing me from running at the minute and I will probably need a few weeks off at least to recover. So far I haven't replaced my running with any biking or swimming due to real life being a bit inconsiderate at the minute so i have been a couple of weeks without any exercise. Given I am off running I am thinking of focusing on cycling for a bit so any suggestion on what to do would be appreciated. 

    As far as next year is concerned, everything is a bit up in the air at the minute as we have decided to take an opportunity and move over to states to work in NY. I am really excited about it however it is making planning for next year quite hard. We suspect we will be moving over around May time but it depends on the timing of visas coming through. My training could be a bit all over the place so was thinking train as if I had an Oly in June time  and plan for a half around Sep/Oct time, exact event tbc. Realise this doesn't give you much to go on but I think a lot of this year is going to be do what I can when i can so any sort of plan would be helpful. 

    cheers,
    Jason     
  • edited December 13, 2017 11:49PM
    @“jason maclellan” -   Thank you so much for the update. What an incredible opportunity for you to come here and work… Should be very very cool. Remember the team can be a resource for you here as you consider all aspects of this undertaking. We have quite a few athletes who live in around the city who I’m sure it could be useful. Please don’t hesitate to ask.

    As for your foot, I’m sorry to hear that. Could you give me some more specific information what you mean by “sore?”  That may help me determine whether not it’s just a little niggle or if it’s a real problem. 

    In the meantime yes, let’s move you to more of a bike focused week.

    Mon - Core Stremgth / Self Care / Rest
    Tues - Bike with Threshold Intervals such as 2x10’ (5’)
    Wed - Walk / Swim? / Stay Active
    Thu - Bike 60’ with most of time in Zone 3 
    Fri - Core Strength / Self Care / Rest
    Sat - Bike Steady (90’ - 120’)
    Sun - Bike 60’ to 90’ with most of time in Zone 3 
  • Thanks and yes very excited about the move, it's going to be a big change for us but should be really good. I have already followed a couple of the guys on Strava who live in and around NY so I can see where they train. I am also excited that when i move over there will be more opportunities to feel like I am part of the team. 

    Re the foot, I am getting pain towards the heel and outside of my foot. The pain comes and goes which seems odd to me but it is sore even if I am not running. If i had to guess I would say it feels like a ligament but not sure. It feels like it might be getting better with rest as the pain is coming less frequently so hopefully I stopped in time before I did any damage. 

    When you say Bike Steady for Sat what does that mean, is it zone 2? 
  • Yes, the study is going to. Sorry for the confusion! That is our default Endurance zone.

    I think I would need a picture from your iPhone with you. Are you at your foot so I had a better sense of exactly what you mean. I’m glad that’s rest seems to be doing something positive there, but it certainly has an address the underlying issue. Have you made any recent changes in footwear?

    For example every summer I wear flip-flops for a couple weeks until my feet start to really hurt me and I remember that I shouldn’t wear flip-flops for a couple weeks. One of these years I will learn! Just curious if you have any similar experience given that it’s not necessarily a run only discomfort for you.
  • Hi, I've not been on here for a while but the good news is my foot seems to be fine now. I have been getting back into training for the last month or so and am now back to a reasonable level of fitness. We are hoping to move around May/June time but until the visa process is complete I can't firm up the date. It means I can't really plan for any specific events this year yet until I know when we move. I am managing around 6 hours a week training time at the minute and would like to focus on getting faster on bike in particular but also my run. Happy to neglect my swimming for the time being. I would like to get back onto a training plan so any suggestions would be great. 
  • @Jason Maclellan - That's great news. No small feat to set your foot on a good path (pun intended!!!!).  :lol:
     :wink:

    Sorry, couldn't help myself. So as you move into your year "event-less" as it were, you can still make some good progress. I;d like to see you load up the Bike Focus Plan (6 Weeks) and do the Beginner or Intermediate workouts. You don't have to go crazy pushing the numbers, but it would be nice to target an FTP of 215 to 220W. Try to get ahead of last year if you know what I mean. 

    You can maintain the running by doing the runs as the plan suggests and also working in some durability runs at 2 to 3 miles per day where you have time, very low intensity!

    Please keep me posted!

    ~ Coach P
  • Plan looks good, well, except for those z4 intervals - i can taste the lactic acid just thinking about them ;-). I have been zwifting for the last 2 months or so and am already a bit stronger on the bike. I have been using Xert (great for data geeks) and it's estimating my FTP at 235 currently so I've updated my zones based on this. Will try and keep the runs low intensity but I do struggle to run in zone 1, it feels so uncomfortable. Does it get easier with practice? 
  • @Jason Maclellan

    That's a great question! Don't worry about "forcing" yourself down into Zone 1. If there's a "happier cadence" for you that isn't too much work, let's have you start there. 

    For example, if Z1 is 10:17/mile and you are much happier at 9:40s....I'd be willing to take that. The key here is that you aren't pushing effort on these runs. 

    Tell me more about Xert when you can!

    ~ Coach P
  • Xert is very interesting, definitely more for pure cyclists than triathlon but I like the feedback you get on every ride. It tells you when you've had a breakthrough ride so you don't need to wait for your next FTP test and it is un-cannily accurate at knowing when you're going to blow in a race/hard effort, it's definitely worth checking out. 

    I've decided this weekend that I am not to put everything on hold pending our move and I've gone back to my original plan of 2 x 70.3s this year. I'm planning to do Staffordshire 70.3 in the UK on June 10th and Atlantic city 70.3 on Sep 23rd (assumes i will be in the states by then). I've switched onto the Half IM minimalist plan to end 10th June which means I am dropping in at start of week 9 but the workouts look doable. Is this a sensible thing to do?

    My goal is to do sub 5:30 at Stafford and I feel that should be achievable with a good 11 weeks of training. I feel like my body can take the increase in load because I don't think adding the swimming back in will tax me too much but what do you think of my plan? I will try and do the full week 9 plan and let you know how the body feels on the increased load. 
  • edited March 19, 2018 1:01PM
    Jason - 

    I will check that out, thank you so much for the reference.

    I think sticking with your original plan is fine. Worst case scenario you just end up super fit and you don’t race and we still continue our annual progression.

    I personally really like the middle of plan even if it’s not that “minimalist.” The focus of that plan is much more about time on the bike for intensity and run consistency. In other words, I want you to keep the quality bike workouts up… The shorter you ride the harder you go. The runs can just be steady at TRP, there still a long time to go for your year and we don’t need to crush you out of the gate.

    And to clarify, week nine is a perfect time to start, that’s usually when we have people dropping into the plans.
  • Hi coach, 

    Just checking in before my race on Sunday. I have been following the plan pretty closely and enjoyed it a lot. I definitely feel like I am in good shape heading into the weekend. In terms of my goals for the race i want to get under 5:30 but a lot will depend on the bike. 

    My swim is fine, I've done 29:23 and 29:32 for my 2 1900m tt's which I am happy with as haven't really been focusing on swim at all. 

    My plan for the bike is to target 185w on the bike (0.79IF). I managed this on my last good bike rehearsal and then ran well off the bike so feel like this is a good number for me. In terms of nutrition I am planning to have 3 bottles and 4 gels on the bike as this has worked on my long rides. Best bike split reckons this power will give me a split of around 3:05. I have invested in some aerobars for my road bike and have been using them on my long rides. I am pretty comfortable staying in position now so hopefully this will give me some speed compared to previous events. 

    I am feeling good about my run at the minute so think I can run sub 1:45. I have set a 10k PR on my last 2 mid week tempo runs so I am definitely in the best run shape i've ever been in. Plan is to start at 8:15/mile for first 2 miles and then hopefully settle into around 7:50ish pace. 

    What do you think of above, does it sound sensible? Anything else I should be thinking about?

    thanks,
    Jason 
  • Jason -  The plan looks great to me, the real question is, how did it play out for you? Please let me know when you get a second.

    ~ Coach P 
  • It went great, I got a 5:16 so much better than I was expecting. Swim 32:03, Bike 2:54:17, Run 1:42:58.

    The swim was a bit weird as i could not catch my breath after jumping in, i had to swim about 100m with my head out of the water just trying to catch a breath. As soon as I got my head down I swam well and started to overtake a lot of people. It wasn't quite the time I was hoping for but was good enough for 12th in my age group so not too bad. Not sure why I couldn't breath as water wasn't that cold - they said 20c. Don't know if you have any thoughts on it? 

    Bike went really well although VI was not great at 1.1. AP 189, 208 NP, IF 0.88. It was not as flat as advertised and I just couldn't stay at my intended power going up the hills so this caused some of the spikes. Also after about 2.5 hours of being continually passed on the bike I actually felt really good for the last 30 mins and pushed hard. I started to overtake some people back and had to surge a bit to get through some of the big packs that had developed.

    I made a couple of mistakes on the run. First 3 miles were probably a bit too fast 7:24, 7:42, 7:44 but I am happy with the time as it's a PR of more than 2 mins for a HM. I made a stupid snap decision in transition not to take the 2 gels I had packed in my run bag (don't know why) thinking I would use the ones on course. They were disgusting and I couldn't take it at all so ended up with no nutrition on run so last few miles were really hard. My heart rate also seemed really high, over an hour in z4 HR zone. Training peaks told me I set a new threshold heart rate during the run, which doesn't seem right. 

    I will write up a full report and post it but really chuffed with the time.   

  •  Congratulations!! A lot of times it’s trouble breathing and this one is a function of a lack of a warm-up. The transition from 0 to 60 combined with the hypoxic nature of swimming can shock even the fittest next time I would suggest that you get a good warm-up of 10 to 15 minutes of easy swimming. 

    While I high VI is not ideal, the way you executed by being patient at the start is about as good as it gets. Nice job.

     Remember the early miles of the run, particularly the first three for a half Iron Man, are all about carrying that bike heart rate out. If we could keep those for 3 miles down you will not have such an extended time at a higher heart rate later in the run. Unless you choose to annihilate yourself at the end like you did on the bike.

    You should always always always carry ylur
    own Nutrition. There is zero cost to carry into gels in your hand. Worst case scenario you just get rid of them at an aid station but always better to have it then wish you did.

    Overall a great race in some good lessons learned. Looking forward to the full report. For now enjoy a few days of recovery through the weekend before we get back at it!
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