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Mark Edwards' Official Coach Thread

Here's your personal Coach Thread, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is here to guide you through your first year on EN, so you can always come back here. 

As you'll see in this forum, I handle all manner of edits and changes.  So post away, know that I reply here usually M/W/F each week.

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Your Notes

 Lavaman Oly

  • 2016 3:15ish (coming off pneumonia)
  • 2014 2:45ish (finally able to train somewhat regulrly)
  • 2013 3:00ish
  • 2012 3:15ish
  • 2011, 2010 (don't remember, but probably 3:15-3:30)

Lake Stevens 70.3

  • 2010 6:15ish
  • 2009, 2008 swim leg, :31ish each time

Grand Columbian Oly

  • Can't remember, one of the first, as a Clyde
  • Grand Columbian half aquabike

Your Races

• 03/25/2018 Lavaman Olympic


Season Outline

These are your recommended training plans, including the date you should start each one (sometimes you won’t complete a full plan but transition to another one).  You can change your plans on the Training Plan page by clicking the Move / Change button. Learn more about each plan on the Training Plan Central Page.

  • Last updated by Coach on 09/20/2017
  • Complete the Trial Testing Week, save your Bike and Run Zones to the My Zones Page.
  • On 9/18/2017 Load the -- Run Durability Plan 1 (9 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 10/15/2017
  • On 10/16/2017 Load the -- Run Durability 2 (8 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 11/12/2017
  • On 10/30/2017 Load the Beginner OutSeason Plan, 14wks to end on 2/4/2018
  • On 2/5/2018 Load the Beginner Short Course Plan to end on 3/25/2018
  • On 3/26/2018 Load the -- Post Half Iron Transition Plan, All Levels (2wks) to end on 4/8/2018

 

Coach Notes

https://endurancenation.wistia.com/medias/vswkcmvxc8



Contact Points

These are all the key points in your first year where we must talk. You can schedule all calls with me for these times online here. Please remember to include your phone number.

  • Welcome Call in Week One (set it up here)
  • Coach Call in Week Two to talk about your season (set it up here)
  • End of Trial Call -- We review your experience & Unlock Year One / Race Execution for you (set it up here)
  • End of Season Call -- We review your year & Strategize for your “gap” and Year Two (to be announced)

For short or last minute questions, we recommend you use the Red Chat Icon on the main Members website
We have also organized a complete chart of the best ways to contact us online here

Your First Month on the Team

You have quite a few things to do when you start up. There are instructions on the top of the website, but you can review them under Resources / 0-- First 30 Days on EN.  If you have any trouble, don’t hesitate to reach out via the chat icon on the main Members website here.

 

Your First Year Inside Endurance Nation

RACE EXECUTION and how we can help you get faster by being smarter on race day. There are no medals for great swims or getting to the top of a hill first — on race day only your finish time counts. There are many ways of being faster, and here are some of the resources we have to help you out.


- The Four Keys of Race Execution Video: The Coaches walk you through the macro level elements of a successful race.


- Distance Specific Guidance: Learn the fundamentals of racing Short Course and Long Course events, from each discipline to pacing zones, etc.


- Race Specific Pages: We have aggregated information on specific races from the internet, race reports and even our own coaching resources. You can find your race Master Racing Page section.  

- The Race Forums:  You can search for race reports or connect with your teammates. There are sections for 70.3, 140.6, and Marathons.


 

Your Homework

Tell Us Why You Choose EN & Your Season Goals

  • Please reply below with WHY you chose Endurance Nation and WHY you train/compete.
  • Whenever possible, please identify your goals -- time, body composition, completion...the sooner you put them down the sooner we can get towards achieving them. 

Looking forward to working with you this year,

~ Coach P

Comments

  • Slow and steady is how we roll!!! I am now following you on SwiftKey and Strava so hope to get a better sense of how things are rolling. Don’t hesitate to reach out and let me know what your questions are!
  • Executed the bike test pretty well, decent gains, probably got the easy gains out of the way now :smile:
    Executed the run test, or it executed me is more accurate.  Ended up not being able to run for 5 days due to knee/hip issues.  I know better :neutral:  I need to be running 3-4x/week, 2-3mi, for 6 months before I try to go any faster than 11:00/mi.

    So, back at it, plodding along...(having trouble inserting the audio for Happy Trails, hopefully that worked!)
  •  I will take the bike games, you have definitely earned them with your swift and six.

     100% agreed on the test. You have to do 30 more runs before you can run that fast. At five runs the week, I will see you mid January! 
  • Good news bad news....
    The good news first:  I might be able to start running again my mid-January.  This will be a good opportunity to get my bike squared away, and maybe the swim too!!
    The bad news:  The pain in the left hip is likely a strained, maybe even torn, hip flexor.  That will teach me to run! :smiley:

    Thoughts on how much bike & swim volume to add?  My thoughts: I'm going to schedule 6 rides a week, hoping to get to 10-12 hours of quality work, and 4 swims to reduce the pinniped look, hoping to get 12k-15k yds :smile:
  •  Yikes! When do you find out which it is? Or are we just going with “this thing is a problem“? Is there a timeframe for resting? I guess just let me know what the next step is…


     I am 100 percent OK with you going nuts on the bike, obviously Zwift is a great platform for that. Can you let me know if you’re able to handle any intensity? It’s always nice to have some variety in the training but even those miles are helpful at this time of year.

    I like the idea foursomes a week, but they certainly don’t all have to be 3K to be successful. I would almost rather you keep it in the 2K range and have a variety of workouts where summer study and others are more tempo… Such as 100 on / 100 off. 

    I don’t most prefer a couple weeks like that before you started building up the two longer swims/study or swims towards the 3K range. How do you feel about that?
  • Running...Well, been running again for 2 weeks now.  OK, running is a bit of a stretch, jogging more like it, pacing in the 11:30 range.  So far, so good, with 20 minutes OTB during the week, and 30 minutes OTB on weekend, with the run/walk ratio at .20/.05.  My heart doesn't adjust to running very well, throwing tantrums up to 150-160 bpm if I try to just run a mile straight, but I can run/walk and keep things somewhat sane at 135-145 in the running portion if I run walk.  Been that way for as long as I can remember.  As I get back running fitness, I'll change the ratio to .45/.05, and hopefully be to .90/.1 by my event in late March.  And just to humor you, I'll see if I can get 50-60 runs in before I try to go faster than 11:30

    Swimming...Been doing most of my swims on Vasa as I'm too lazy to go to the pool for anything shorter than 2500, too much overhead in travel, suit up suit down, etc., vs. time in water.  Swimming comes back pretty quick for me most days.

    Biking...Been working on upping the power via Zwift, seems to be working.  I got 1w just by doing a race (256w->257w) :)  Pretty sure I was not at ftp limit either as I was trying to save matches for the surges; crit race efforts seem to the exact opposite of triathlon efforts, VI and all.  I managed to crack 1000w on a few sprints, now to translate that to hour power :)  Oh, and cut some weight.  Riding at 280w+ doesn't amount to much when you're 110kg. :blush: It does make flat races interesting though...
  • @“mark edwards” -  thanks so much for the update. I have heard from a little birdie that you’re making progress, and that’s great. You and I both know it’s always baby steps and how important all of these elections can be in terms of the way they add up over time.

    Very pleased to hear about the run, and I’m 100% fine with the run walk. I personally use that a great deal when I get back to running outside as well, it allows me to run a faster pace without being aerobically limited so I’m OK with that. 

     Forget about the swim, the Vasa time is far more important. Let me know how you’re breaking the difference from his up or if you’re just modify something into your plan. 

    I am most pleased with what you’re doing on the bike. I don’t know with how your bike time now in Swift stacks of two prior years, but my guess is you’re doing some really good work. Don’t underestimate the value of the studies the time as well. One session a week where you get in 2 1/2 to 3 hours on a flat course around 2.5 will be great for you.  Team ODZ does a few of these types of rides that you might want to check on. 

    I’m not saying to do them for eternity, but 3 to 4 weeks of adding that and then checking back on your bike Fitness might be interesting.
  • Well then....things seem to be settling down a bit.  Sore soas/so'ass is better, and I'm able to run without pain.  Lavaman is in the books, ugly as it was :)  I guess it's time to layout the OS to prepare for Lavaman next year!  Basically, I'm looking to be fit enough to be able to sign up for an Oly and just be able to go do it (2 week notice type of deal), and/or be able to sign up for a 70.3 (if I get crazy) and go do it with 10-12 weeks notice. :)  Thoughts on that?
    Thanks!
  • Mark -  I like the idea of a ”Basic Week” that has you ready. I know you have a work change (how does that affect your training availability?) and that you enjoy training in nice weather. Will you want to be ready to do a century or anything this summer??

    lemmeno...
  • CoachP.  Long time no response (I operate on HI time, what can I say?).  Here's what I know.  The work change has given me about 2 hours a day back.  Of course, the adulting stuff consumed a lot of that for a while, and I'm hoping that has settled down now, so I can figure out the new sleeping schedule :smile:   I really like the idea of a basic week, b/c that allows me to not have to think too much.  I have to save the brain cells for the important things, like sleep :smiley:  If I had to rank what I like best with the s/b/r training, it would be s/b/r, but s/b are very close, and r is WAY behind.  Not very original, I know.  What am I hoping to do?  I'd like to be at a fitness level to do a century and not have it kill me, or a 2.4 swim, and maybe a 5k.  The past realities for me were that I "just did" 80 mile rides, with minimal strain, 3 mile OWswims, with no strain, and 5 mile runs, with herculean efforts (none of those bricked.)  I'd like to get back to something like that, with the exception of the runs.  The runs I'd like to get to at least difficult, if not to moderate effort, if that makes sense.  That said, when I could do those efforts, I was training 10-15 hours a week, which I think is a reasonable time sink, now that I can probably train , <=2 hours/day M-F, maybe <=3-4 hours/day S-S.  I do realize that means I have to become a morning person, which is probably going to require more effort than the training. :wink:

    What I am doing now.  Trying to get 30-60 minutes a day, M-F, of one sport, just to keep loose.  S-S seem to be "just wing it" days, which really messes up my ability to get into a comfortable rut :smile:   I've been focused on running, trying to make it to 30 minutes of running non-stop.  I've progressed to run/walk at .45/.05mile at about a 10:45 pace.  I can go faster, but found that I can't do that pace daily, sometimes needing 2 or more days off running.  I'm OK with doing all b/r training indoors, and I am open to running outside when the weather is perfect (I melt in the rain.)  I prefer swimming in water when I can, but have a vasa for the time crunched days.  I'm feeling pretty good; ready to start putting more time in!  I've even considered started drinking coffee, to learn to be a morning person :neutral:
  • @mark edwards - It's not easy to coach you when you make me laugh so hard!  :sunglasses:

    Ok, I think your baseline goals are good, and it's nice you have a historical reference point for where you want to get back to.

    Phase One (includes rest as you start waking up early.)

    Mon - Day OFF / Sleep in day
    Tues - Zwift Race (60')+ 30' Run/Walk
    Wed - Swim + 30' Run/Walk
    Thu - Zwift Race (60')+ 30' Run/Walk
    Fri - Day OFF / Sleep in day 
    Sat - Bike 2 hours + 30' Run; Optional OWS if nice (you can drop run). 
    Sun - Bike 1.5 hours + Run/Walk 1 hour.

    Phase Two

    Mon - Day OFF / Sleep in day
    Tues - Zwift Race (60') + 30' Run/Walk
    Wed - 60' Run/Walk + Vasa
    Thu - Zwift Hill Climb Day (90') + 30' Run/Walk
    Fri - Swim Only Day
    Sat - 30' Run/Walk, then Bike 3-ish hours + Optional OWS if nice out. 
    Sun - ABP Ride for 60', then 60' steady on your own + 30' Run / Walk

    I still love the Time OFF time (it's good for you) and a rest day. Check those out and let me know what you think!!

    ~ Coach P
  • @Coach Patrick  Humor is all I have :smiley:   Anyways...  I'm good with this 90%.  I feel guilty if I don't get something done on OFF days.  I'd look to do some active recovery swim (non-free strokes, ok, some free, because, well, speed!, no 100s on the 1:15, but on the 1:30), maybe hot yoga (temperature wise, not just because I'm there, but that is a pretty good reason...)  I'm sticking to my original assessment too, waking up will be the most difficult piece of this whole thing.  Why can't mornings happen at night? :mrgreen:
  •  I totally get it. For some reason I thought you were different than all the others!  😂 

    I’ll take some form of activity that’s just not significant. But yoga is good, some core strength and flexibility is good, something like the bonus work that makes a difference overtime but isn’t individually significant.

    Remember the long-term goal is to keep you going and progressing and these micro breaks are important.
  • On it.  Already failing the wakeups though...
  • I heard all about it. If only you had a partner who would help you get up early. Lol 😂 
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