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Amulya Parthasarathy Official Coach Thread

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Here's your personal Coach Thread, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is here to guide you through your first year on EN, so you can always come back here. 

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Your Notes

Currently following the Run Durability 1 plan but im taking two weeks off to recover/rehab from a hip injury. I should be ready before the NovOS starts.

Your Races

  • 03/17/2018  (Cycling)  Solvang Spring Double Century
  • March 30th - April 11th - Family Vacation to China
  • 05/12/2018 (IM) Santa Rosa

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  • Last updated by Coach on 10/23/17
  • Complete the Trial Testing Week, save your Bike and Run Zones to the My Zones Page.
  • On 10/23/2017 Load the -- Run Durability 2 (8 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 11/19/2017
  • On 10/30/2017 Load the Intermediate OutSeason / Run Durability Plan, 14wks to end on 2/4/2018
  • On 2/5/2018 Load the Intermediate EN*Full Plan to end on 5/12/2018

 

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Tell Us Why You Choose EN & Your Season Goals

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Looking forward to working with you this year,

~ Coach P

Comments

  • Hi Coach,

    First off, congrats on you Kona come back!! That was amazing!

    Thanks for putting in the season planning road map. I thought I also put in Ironman Santa Rosa (May 12th) also as my A race in there but I’m not sure why it didn’t show up (I’m going to claim technical glitch
  • Hi Coach,

    First off, congrats on you Kona come back!! That was amazing!

    Thanks for putting in the season planning road map. I thought I also put in Ironman Santa Rosa (May 12th) also as my A race in there but I’m not sure why it didn’t show up (I’m going to claim technical glitch  :) ) but I was pretty sure I put it in there. I also have a family vacation to China between March 30th - April 11th). Need some feed back if the Solvang double century (03/17/2018) and IM Santa Rosa  (5/12/2018) is too close to each other given that I will be missing about 12 days of serious training.

    With regard to the hip injury, It all started off with the foot. I’ve been struggling with a pain/stiffness on the inside of the arch. It started about a year ago when I wasn’t actually running during that month at all. So plantar was ruled out. Tried a few things like massaging the foot/ankle, lacrosse ball etc but it was temporary relief. I’v been trying to run for almost a year and it hasn't been the same. I could fake it for about 2-3 weeks but then I have to stop after that because of the inflammation in the foot. I even tried new custom orthodics and that didn’t help. I saw my chiropractor/ soft tissue therapist regarding this and he thinks that It’s mostly due to tight hips. Sure enough if I do that pigeon stretch , the tightness in my arch releases almost instantaneously. I do feel a lot of tightness in my hips, lower back(just above the hips) and lateral quad closer towards the knee.

    Another thing that I also noticed while cycling was that my right heel jerks inwards and outwards. If I lock the cleats without any play, then my right knee moves/jerks laterally quite often (eventually causing soreness in my knee). I don't know if the tightness in the hips is causing my foot pain or if some other bio-mechanics in my foot is causing tightness in my hips.

    Not sure where this is going to lead but feel like it’s moving in the right direction atleast for now. I’m hoping that stretching my hips out and possibly strengthen my glutes will fix this. I’ve made two attempts to do my first full Ironman in the last three years but I haven’t been able to make it to the starting line so far.



  • @Amulya Parthasarathy - Ok, I never saw it but it's update in the bullet list above!!!'

    The Solvang + Vaycay + IM is fine. I'd want some bike volume before you go anyway, so that's a good thing!

    The hips..yes, it's all the hips. Really need to evaluate your work set up / driving...if you spend significant time in a chair all day, you might want to go standing desk or work in a lot of breaks so you can take care of your body proactively as much as possible. This is the best way that we can make sure your stretching has maximum effect...let me know!

    Please be careful with the early run in the OS if the hip / foot is bothering you. Would rather you be conservative than put long term "run health" in jeopardy!

    ~ Coach P
  • Hi Coach,
    I'm planning to do a three day long ride (125miles x 3 days) with my local tri club along the coast in Jan (13th-15th). We are going to be riding from San Francisco to Santa Barbara. I'm currently on the Nov OutSeason following the Bike Focused plan and riding outdoors on Saturdays (50 miles or so). I plan to increase my Saturday mileage by about 5-10 miles every week to prepare for long coast ride. Let me know if that is a good enough and if I need to change anything else.

  • @Amulya Parthasarathy -  thank you for checking in! That ride sounds amazing. Here is what I suggest you do in addition to this great basic week.

    You should pick one weekend in December and New Year’s weekend as well, a total of two weekends, to ride on back to back days. Both rides should be in the neighborhood of 3 to 4 hours.

    The goal here is to getting used to riding outside on back to back days. Ideally those rides to be 60 to 70 miles so you’re putting in 140 miles across both days. I don’t want you to ride longer than four hours at any one time, but the back to back rides will help. 

     That first week of January should also be a big cycling week. Riding almost every day and hopefully cracking 350 miles. You could do 7x50 mile rides in a row or at least seven consecutive days of riding. You can finish with a longer ride on that weekend and then we basically taper in to the weekend itself. 

    Why don’t you outlined what you think is possible and I can advise you from there!.
  • Thanks Coach! This is awesome. Attached is the Spread sheet that I created based on your guidance. I'm mostly following the OutSeason training plan with some modification to the bike ride on the weekend. The plan sounds doable but need some clarifications.

    1. Need some guidance on how to fit in my run when my cycling volume is sky high? I've dialed down the run's in the big cycling week and also on the two back to back long ride weekends. Should I still do this or skip the run completely?
    2. What is the intensity that I should be riding during the big cycling week? My goal is to do a two hour ABP or Z2/Z3 ride on Zwift (or close to 50 miles) for 5 days and then two outdoor rides on the weekend before I go into the taper week. I've never done such high volume before but I have the time and and I'm mentally prepared. So as long as my legs holds up and I'm able to get my ass on the saddle (saddle soreness could be a factor too  :) ), I will set this as a goal.

    Thanks again for the tips. I did this ride last year and I was nowhere prepared as this plan dictates. The result was that I suffered every day and not to mention saddle soreness.



  • @Amulya Parthasarathy  Love the spreadsheet! It looks perfect.

    For the running during the big bike week, I suggest you just move all of them to the week of the event itself. That leaves last week don’t bike it all, just run daily until it’s time for the big ride. This way, you can just bike during the big bike week. Only exception would be if you needed a day off from cycling to give your body a rest. And by body, I am talking about your a$$. 

    With that kind of volume, all intensity is out. I would keep it all steady for every ride, with the goal of having your last hour or 30 minutes be your “strongest.” This is entirely an Exercise in Endurance. You can break things up by shifting to stand on repeat intervals if you want. Otherwise, completing the week itself will be an accomplishment.
  • Thank you very much coach! This is very helpful and gives me a lot of confidence.
  • edited December 28, 2017 3:41AM
    Coach,
    I'v had a minor setback due to an injury. After my Saturday ride on 12/16, I had severe back pain on my lower back. I’m able to walk without pain but running is out. The transition from sitting to standing and vice verse is also painful. I’m able to ride my bike as long as I hold a steady position for the most part.

    It turns out that I have a muscle knot as big as a golf ball on my mid back almost on my lat muscle on the left side. Surprisingly the pain is nowhere in that area but is causing pain on my lower back on the left side. I'v been seeing my chiropractor twice every week since then and it's helping.  He’s digging out the knot and it's progressing slowly since i’v started treatment. He's telling me not to worry or stress about it and it will be gone by next week. He’s assured me that I should be ready for my big ride on the 13th.( fingers crossed there)

    I’v replaced the run workouts on Wednesday and Sunday with steady endurance Z2/Z3 so far. I’m able to mostly complete the bike workouts as scheduled so far. 

    On the positive side, I can see my fitness improve tremendously but at the same time I do fee the fatigue kick in this week. I’m going to take Friday off as an additional rest day. Any feedback on how and when I should transition back to running?

  •  Call man, back pain is awful. Sounds like you might have been overcompensating for tightness in your upper back. I’m glad you have a chiropractor looking at it and I hope you also have some good daily warm-up and/or gentle movement exercises to stay loose. Sometimes our day-to-day activities can be a big part of the problem as well.

    I am not worried about you running just yet, especially as your Fitness continues to improve which is our number One goal.

    I see that you start to re-integrate the running with three walks a week for 20 to 30 minutes. First week flat, second week in a little bit of incline on the treadmill. If there’s no issues there, then we can consider some elliptical time. But first give me an update please.
  • edited January 8, 2018 3:22AM

    Coach,

    I think I finally have some positive news.

    On the lower back pain front, the root cause seems to be tight hips and lats. The damn tightness in the hips finally released on Friday (1/5) after suffering almost three weeks. The pain is almost 90% gone as of today and im able to sit and stand without suffering. That was quite a relief as it got me seriously worried if there was something underlying that was wrong. With regard to the knot/lump on the back, I had a second opinion from my physician and he said it’s a lipoma and has nothing to do with the back pain. He said it looks like it’s been there for a while and may be a coincidence that I just noticed it now. He suggested that I keep an eye on it and if it becomes bothersome or grows any larger, I may have to have surgery to have it removed. The downside of leaving it as is is that it may cause some slight muscle movement restriction.

    On the training front, I’v been able to keep up with the schedule that you outlined. This week I rode in total 300 miles (Tue-Sun). Garmin tells me that my VO2 max for cycling is 55 and I feel good. I can feel the difference in my fitness today.

    For next week (week of the ride), I’m going to transition into swimming and will test out some easy running and see how it holds up. I’m still not 100% sure if I’m ready for running yet but will give it a try.

     

    Some follow up questions.

    Post coast ride (Week 11 of OutSeason) should I use that as a recovery week with easy swimming and may be running? I’v put in some estimated TSS according to best bike splits and Training peaks/WKO4 estimates my TSB at -71 on the day after completing the coast ride.



    Week 12 of OutSeason, I’m assuming that I just follow the plan?

    Thank you very much for customizing my training plan. I haven’t felt more confident in my training and preparedness for the coast ride.




  • @Amulya Parthasarathy -  that is fantastic news on your hips. I have found that working with someone who does active release therapy can be incredibly effective. I’m glad that you have not only found relief but that it has allowed you to get back to your normal active lifestyle. Be sure to take a good hard look at the changes you made that allowed you to become successful here so that we can sustain them overtime and hopefully prevent any further issues from arising. 

     I am dying to hear how the ride went for you, so please drop me a note or give me a link to check it out.

    Yes I would recommend that you repeat week 10 as a rest week from the outseason  and then jump until week 12 as your normally scheduled week. That will allow us to close out the Outseason and begin moving towards the rest of your year. 
  • Coach!!! The ride was epic! Here is the link to the ride. https://endurancenation.vanillacommunities.com/discussion/24422/california-coast-ride . Thanks again for putting together a training plan and making it a great experience for me.

  • Coach,
    Just have a couple of questions.

    1. I have a double century coming up on March 17th. I'm currently on week 9 of the 2018 EN*FULL Bike Focused (PlanEN Level 2). I'm currently increasing the bike mileage on my Saturday ride which is currently between 70-80 miles for the last couple of weeks. I'm planing to increase that and go up to 100-120 miles until the weekend before the double century. Should I change or be doing anything different apart from this? I'm also planning to do the ride on my Tri-bike. Is that advisable? The course is pretty flat and I don't feel any difference in comfort riding the tri-bike vs road bike on long rides. But I also want to make sure that I don't so something stupid if it is not advisable for a double century.

    2. I'm recovering from a hip/lower back injury which happened in Dec. I'm currently running 4 times a week for about 20-30 minutes on each run and one long run which is currently 40-45 minutes. I'm trying to slowly increase volume and pace and things are progressing. Starting this week, I'm planning to split the long run on Thursday into two 25 minute sessions and slowly increase the volume each week and try and bridge it with the training plan. Should I be concerned that I'm behind on running? Should I be doing anything different.


  • @Amulya Parthasarathy - Rather than have you make that one single ride so long, I would recommend that you add a ride before the Sunday run. I would vastly prefer an 80 mile Saturday and a 40 to 50 mile Sunday followed by a run and just one long ride babe. If you can do those back to back right days for three weekends then the weekend before the long ride you can do a century or 120, only one ride that weekend, and that should be sufficient.

    I’m not worried about your run volume, the frequency is the most important part. You are on the right path and if we can build you up to five of those runs a week I would feel pretty confident going into the early-season races. Remember, even if you want to be stronger it’s more a function of what your body can handle then would you want to be able to do. You will be there soon enough I promise!

  • Coach,
    Just wanted to give you an update and was looking for your guidance on how how I should proceed for the next few weeks. On the running front, I'm progressing slowly but it is progress. I'm running anywhere from 4-5 times a week with my longest run on Thursday which is about 80 minutes currently. The other runs are are anywhere from 25-40 minutes. I've been having some great days and some not so great days with running. There are some aches and pains in the ankle/Post tib etc but I'm taking care of it by backing off a bit when they arise and also through stretching/ice/massage with my chiropractor.

    I needed your feedback on a couple of things.

    1. On Saturday 3/17 I'm doing my double century. I think I'm prepared for the ride but wanted your guidance how i should plan my work recovery/workouts after the ride on Saturday if needed for the following week.
    2. I'm going on vacation to China at the end of the month. I depart on Friday 3/30 and will be traveling back on Wednesday 4/11. I will not have access to a bike during this time. I may be limited to running and swimming. The two hotels that I'm staying have 20M and 26M pools. How do you want me to change my workout during this time? I may be limited to one workout a day for up to an hour if I'm lucky.
  • @Amulya Parthasarathy - I am pleased to hear you are being smart with the running. Is there a particular run / pace that is affecting you more than others? If necessary, we can modify your training to try and alleviate some of this. 

    Post Century -- For this week you can just take Monday OFF and Swim Tuesday...then back on it for the rest of the week!

    China Trip -- So cool!!!! I think we'll want to divide your time pre / post trip. During the trip try to get an hour of activity per day. That could be 30' swim +30' run, or a 60' swim or a 60' run, etc. All we want to do is keep your body rolling / fitness level generally high. 

    Before you travel, we'll want to make sure you get in some good rides and your long run. Long run on Thursday 3/29 is easy. I think next weekend (24/25) you should plan on biking long again on both days as you are able. This will help "make up" for lost bike time on your trip. 

    Once you are back you'll need time to adapt. I suggest Thursday / Friday are swim only (or just a short run). Then Sat/Sun as planned with seem big bikes. 

    What do you think?

    ~ Coach P
  • Coach,
    With regard to running, from what I've noticed I think it's more distance related than pace. The sweet spot seems to be around 40-55minutes as long as i'm in Z3/Z2/TRP for this distance. Things seems to creep up when long runs starts going beyond 80 minutes on Thrusdays. I'm constantly having to think/modify pace and distance on every run to make sure i can continue running the next day to keep up the the running frequency.

    With regard to the post century and workout during vacation, i think I'm all set. I don't think a one hour workout every day should be a problem.

    Thanks again for your assistance and modifications to my plan. I don't want to jinx it, but even with some small setbacks my over all fitness is at it's peak.



    I don't think I've ever felt more fitter than thins in my life. The big block of cycling preparing for the coast ride earlier this year really boosted my over all fitness. Hopefully this year will be the year that I will be able to get my foot at the starting line for an Ironman race (fingers crossed :) ).

  •  Nice work! Not only do I love that graph and the gradual incline of fitness, but I like how attuned you are to your body right now. If it’s possible, let’s not run longer than your current pain threshold. That means putting long runs in the neighborhood of one hour in the morning and one hour in the evening. That should get you through most of your training and keep those running shoes at bay what do you think?

    PS, good luck training on vacation! 
  • Coach,
    Just wanted to give you an update on my running and seek your advice. For the last couple of weeks I'm averaging about 4.5-5hrs of running per week with my longs runs around two hrs (12miles) in mostly zone1. What I've noticed is that running is Z1 seems to be fending off most of the aches/pains/injuries so far. Given that IM Santa Rosa is in two weeks, how should I proceed with my running? I have not run more than 12 miles for my longest run recently, but i'm feeling more confident that I should be able to do longer runs in Z1. Should I attempt to do longer run this week? This will be my first Full Ironman that I'm attempting to finish.
  • @Amulya Parthasarathy the weekly mileage + bike nutrition + bike pacing are all greater than a single long run. Your last long run Day is Thursday, so you could do 2.5 hours that day, Friday Off, Saturday 2.5 Hour Zone 1-2 spin in the aerobars. But nothing more than 2.5 hours plse. 

     If you haven’t already, please check out our race execution stuff for how we want you to pace the bike and the early parts of the run. There’s a lot of basic execution things that will help keep you in the right space, such as walking each run a station to keep your heart rate down and to allow you to fully in just the one couple fluid you’re allowed to take (which is always sports drink, no water). Want to make sure you have the basics down as well. 
  • Thanks Coach! Just did my last long run. 

    https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/2671864714

    This is the longest run I’ve ever done. So crossing 13.1 and doing a 15 mile run today really helped in breaking a huge mental barrier. Overall I feel good and this is probably the first race I’m going into without any major injuries (at least as of today) 😁. My plans is to see my chiropractor a couple of time between now and next week to workout some minor aches and tightness. Also will try to fit in a couple of yoga sessions if I can to stretch out the body a bit if that is okay?

    I also went through the race execution page and watched the FourKeys video. Thanks for all your guidance coach. This make me feel real confident. Keeping my fingers crossed 😁.

  • @Amulya Parthasarathy -   Fantastic! Remember, slow and steady wins your race. We need you to make smart decisions about pacing in nutrition to sustain yourself throughout the course of the race.

    As you look at your race plan, take a minute to review your long rides and runs so you can set some target goals for heart rate, and power if you have it, so that you know you are racing in the same ZIP Code as you have trained.

    I am super excited to follow you on race day, let me know if there’s anything else I can do to help! 
  • Coach!!!! I have four words for you. "YOU ARE THE BEST!!!!" Everything went like clock work atleast to me :smile:

    Full race report is at https://endurancenation.vanillacommunities.com/discussion/24764/amulyas-2018-imsr-race-report

    Thank you for all your help!!! Could not have been more pleased with the results.

  • You are a beast!!! So proud of you! That’s no small feat to be able to get in that quality training early in the year, but you found the right training group and you put in the time. You earned that finish for sure. I hope you’re enjoying the recovery!
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