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Using P1 pedals in a rainy/muddy cyclecross race? Problems?

Larry PetersLarry Peters
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Hi team,

Also, has anyone ever used P1 power-tap pedals in rain & mud where they are jumping on and off the bike a lot (like during a late season CX race?)? Could this damage them? 

I just got these, they are my babies, and I don't want to risk damaging these. But I am thinking of doing a CX race Saturday for run and also would love to get the power data from the race. But maybe the power data from a workout like that wouldn't be that important? Thoughts?

Thanks!

Comments

  • Brian QuartonBrian Quarton
    On one hand these cleats/pedals are not good for a muddy CX race. Could they strike the ground? Likely. On the other hand they are tough and have a 2 year warranty. I personally would just get out and compete without them.
  • Larry PetersLarry Peters
    Thanks a ton @IMBQMD , I think that is good advice and keeps my life simpler this week (would've required some shoe shopping & maybe a spare pair of P1 cleats)!
  • scott dinhoferscott dinhofer
    I am more concerned with having MTB cleats that clear mud easily, particularly in a race where:
    • you are on and off the bike
    • the nature of the riding is "spikey" so you aren't riding at a "power" number
    I suspect this is more about recording the work effort?
    I struggle with this on my MTB, i do gravel rides with friends, I use the P1s on those rides, I do not use the P1s on my MTB.
    I believe there is a way to get reasonably accurate TSS readings off HR in TrainingPeaks, that's where I am headed to deal with my MTB rides. 
  • Scott AlexanderScott Alexander
    Scott Dinhofer said:
    I am more concerned with having MTB cleats that clear mud easily, particularly in a race where:
    • you are on and off the bike
    • the nature of the riding is "spikey" so you aren't riding at a "power" number
    I suspect this is more about recording the work effort?
    I struggle with this on my MTB, i do gravel rides with friends, I use the P1s on those rides, I do not use the P1s on my MTB.
    I believe there is a way to get reasonably accurate TSS readings off HR in TrainingPeaks, that's where I am headed to deal with my MTB rides. 
    I used to use my p1 pedals on my mtb only when doing gravel rides and also what I called my "urban mtb'ing" rides (riding around sidewalks, etc).

    I've since added a stages left-side PM for my mtb, so there's no issue any longer with recording power there.

    My concerns for muddy/dirty cleats would be the same as (the other) Scott.
  • Jorge DuqueJorge Duque
    On top of the comments regarding the mud, P1's are not the easiest pedals to clip in and out. Not an ideal situation for cycle-cross. 
  • Larry PetersLarry Peters
    Ok, thanks a ton @Scott Dinhofer , @Jorge Duque and @Scott Alexander

    I think I'm just overly excited about being able to capture power data & being able to move my pedals between bikes (and I was not being practical). Thanks for talking some sense into me. The points you all raise are very legit.

    I don't have training peaks yet, but I've been meaning to look into it and if necessary, ask the team about it. They've offered me a free trial, so I'll have to check it out. It sounds like a great tool that lots of people use. Good to know it can be used to estimate TSS.

    Thanks a ton!

  • scott dinhoferscott dinhofer
    @Larry Peters - reminder that we have a TP discount on the sponsors page
  • Satish PunnaSatish Punna
    I'd leave the P1 pedals at home.  If you wear a HR monitor, you will find that your HR will be at or above threshold for the entire race.  Don'y worry, you will know you did some work.  
  • Larry PetersLarry Peters
    @Scott Dinhofer Thanks for the reminder on the TP (Training Peaks, I assume) discount!
    @Satish Punna , Thanks for the suggestion! I did that & you were right :). 

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