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Joel Bell Official Coach Thread

Here's your updated Season Plan, as promised. This is where you'll return to post all your "coach" questions as responses; I'll see them and reply. This first post is my best outline of how to proceed with your races, but you can ask any / all questions you want. So post away, know that I reply here usually M/W/F each week.

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Your Notes

Raced 70.3 WC in Chattanooga and have been active but unstructured since. Typically running 2-3X per week and riding 2-3x per week. No swimming since Chattanooga. I'm not even sure I remember where the pool is. I have a ton of travel through the rest of November but plan to get back into the groove first thing in December. My A-race for 2018 is Challenge Roth and I'm gunning for a PR in the 9-9:15 range. My super stretch goal is 8:59:xx.

 

Your Races

  • 05/12/2018 - Kinetic 1/2
  • 07/01/2018 - Challenge Roth

 

Season Update

These are your recommended training plans, including the date you should start each one (sometimes you won’t complete a full plan but transition to another one).  You can change your plans on the Training Plan page by clicking the Move / Change button. Learn more about each plan on the Training Plan Central Page.

  • Last updated by Coach on 11/20/2017
  • On 11/27/2017 Load the -- Run Durability 2 (8 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 12/24/2017
  • On 12/25/2017 Load the -- Run Durability 3 (7 months out) -- 4 weeks to end on 1/21/2018
  • On 1/8/2018 Load the Advanced OutSeason (Run Focus) Plan, 14wks to end on 4/15/2018
  • On 4/16/2018 Load the Advanced EN*Full to end on 7/01/2018
  • On 7/02/2018 Load the -- Post Ironman Transition Plan, All Levels (4wks) to end on 7/30/2018


 

Coach Notes

Great to hear from you man!! Congrats on 70.3™ worlds. I see you doing more RDP stuff through DEC, with the JAN OS being where we build your engine big time.....so bike focus OS please. 

Then we recover from the OS (TBD if needed) into the proper Full Plan; along the way you do Kinetic. 

About the top end goal...you'll need to nail down that awesome bike, so I see it playing out like this:

  • Your Swim Has to be Strong so it doesn't hurt on race day. You need to start swimming 2x a week come Feb; goal is to be up closer to 3x a week come April and 4x a week / 10k by June. Last 3 weeks should be close to 15k to 18k as you taper the swim. 
  • Your Bike has to be Beastly. We need lots of ABP strength so you can ride with the fast folks and work the group flow out there as much as possible. Bike will been to be in 4:50 range which is possible, but you need to be strong. Big FTP goals for the OS, and consider an early big bike weekend late May / early June. 
  • The Run has to be strong (early) and fast (as you peak). You'll need to be able to run low 7s for 16 miles...and then hang on as it starts to fade. You are GREAT runner, so I am not worried about it other than keeping you healthy. We don't need to do low 7s all year, more like 7:30-7:45s to complement the odd Threshold Run....but we'll need some Race Specific hard running in June...we can discuss. 

 If you have more for me let me know, otherwise, let's get to work!

 

~ Coach P

Comments

  • Thanks Patrick!  I've got the run durability plan loaded up and will hit that consistently for the next 6 weeks but will probably fit in 2X rides and 2X swims as well.  I need to get back to some structure and start remembering how to swim.

    Recent run test - Turkey Trot 5k - 18:01. Not terrible coming off 6 weeks of traveling and sporadic training. I ran 17:24 back in late September. A few weeks of consistent training should get me back closer to 17:30-17:45.

    I think a 4:50 bike split is completely realistic.  I rode 5:06 at Chattanooga in my most recent IM a few years back and that's 116 miles.  I'm spending a week dedicated to training in Clermont, FL Feb 12-17 - bike heavy.  I'll definitely plan a big bike week somewhere around Memorial Day.  When is the Blue Ridge camp?

    I'd say I under-perform a bit on the run in IM but I don't necessarily think it's from poor bike pacing.  Maybe doing more easy volume than I have in the past. I always focus on quality over quantity but getting my weekly volume up might be the key. Thoughts?
  • @TH3 FRB -  your run Fitness sounds like it’s exactly where it should be right now. I think you have a good projection for the next six weeks so let’s keep that rolling.

    I agree with you on the bike, your fitness is there the key is making it so deep that the cost to you is lower on race day. In other words, show up with a big FTP but ride to a lower percentage of it for the same speed. That gives you a great deal more bandwidth – thanks to lower TSS – allowing you to run closer to your potential.

    The Blue Ridge camp is the very end of April /Early May. Let me know if you’re interested!
  • Just checking in.  I had a good roll going on for 3 weeks leading up to Christmas - consistently running 5X per week plus two quality sessions on the trainer.  Then things fell apart a bit between traveling and spending a couple nights in the ER for some unknown GI issue.  All seems to be fine now and I'm back to running as of Monday - we got 10-12" of snow in VIRGINIA BEACH late last week and everything was shut down through the weekend with no chance to even get to a treadmill. On the positive side, I got 4 straight days on the trainer.  I looks like clear sailing for the next couple of months as far as I can see and I'm looking forward to nailing some weekly consistency.
  • JB - Glad to hear you are on the mend. Sounds like you’ve managed to make the most out of that ridiculous the weather. We got the same storm but it’s to be expected up here!

    Don’t obsess too much about the quality of the work you’re doing right now. You have such great physical infrastructure that it’s the consistency that matters the most. Even if it’s just a 1 mile run because of your schedule, keeping the fire burning will make a big difference. I am excited to see you get back on track!
  • FTP test on the trainer last week = 255W, 3.6W/KG

    10k benchmark this past weekend = 37:15, 5:59/mile, VDOT = 56.5

    I'm heading to Clermont, FL next week for a 5-day training camp and hoping to put in some relatively big bike volume and get some input on my swim stroke.
  • Joel –

    Those are really solid numbers. Given how lean you are, it will be great to see you between 3.8 and 4.0 W per kilogram by the time we enter race prep.

    Could very well be that this volume bump is enough to tip the scales in your favor… Just remember to recover for a few days when you get back!

     I’m definitely not worried about your swim, I just want to make sure that you can do all of the work and observe it while you’re there.

    The other thing to think about is not overachieving on the run. We don’t need you to do very much right now, as I know your run Fitness will still come around pretty quickly. Just one fast session a week I think is all you need.

    I’m sure the camp is very well organized but if you need any ideas for routes don’t hesitate to reach out! 
  • Just finished a training camp in Clermont.  I logged about 785 TSS on the bike across 4 days riding 65, 75, and 82 miles on consecutive days and then an assortment of a coffee ride and 3 super sprint time trials on the fourth day.  I also got a 6 mile run off the bike on the first day and a 12 mile run on the clay trail loop on the fifth day.  I felt pretty good on that longer run despite putting in 2 weeks worth of bike volume in 4 days. I loved having nothing else to do but train, eat, sleep, and recover.

    I took two days off and then swam yesterday. Today I hit a short 3X8' FTP session to see how things felt.  It wasn't particularly difficult but I felt a bit of fatigue still.  I'll swim and run easy tomorrow and then jump back onto the OS plan starting this weekend.


  •  Perfect! Looks like you guys had some great weather too. Remember you’ll likely need about 10 days to totally absorb it so testing the legs is good but no pushing through until your heart rate numbers are playing nice! 
  • That brings up a question.  I haven't used HR in many years but I just got a HR strap recently out of curiosity mostly.  I've been logging the data for a few weeks but haven't really looked at it.  What do you suggest in terms of integrating HR with power and pace?
  • I don’t really worry about her wait until we get closer to your race. So keep capturing it so we can go back and look at it when you’re in that race rehearsal window. Then you can go back and look at your last five or six long rides/long runs and determine what your heart rate number was for those efforts. That gives us an “ZIP Code” to aim for on race day.

    In other words, or replace a much larger role on race day than it does in your typical training but we need the training information to help make the race day parameters effective. Make sense?
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