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2018 JOS Week 10 Bike Thread - Testing (Again)

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  • @Derrek Sanks  good luck at the NYC half today, i had a slot, but my running is dismal. Going out to do the Hell of Hunterdon, we can meet for coffee in central joisy on your way out of town :smiley:

    Did a quick hour yesterday, mostly Z3 to spin out the legs before todays epic ride, 80 miles, 18% of it on gravel/dirt - synoposis to follow
  • I have learned not to trust how I feel in the first few miles of the long run, because I seem to loosen up and the second half is usually more pleasant. 
    I always try to tell myself this at the start of an IM run  :#  truth is that miles 4-18 are usually "pleasant." I have no idea what miles 19-26 look like as I've wiped them from memory... mile 16.1-26.2 is usually awesome :p
  • @Scott Dinhofer, Thanks! We have a tight schedule. We're catching a Broadway show this afternoon, then taking the train back tonight.
  • Thanks @BrianQuarton, that’s definitely how my HR charts. I haven’t abandoned the workouts but have thrown in stops to recover more. I’m doing them all in trainerroad with kickr in erg mode, so it’s my only option.

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  • @Derrek Sanks - love it, guy trounces the competition in the NYC half and goes to Broadway after wards.. I Hope it's a disney show because that might be cliche!

    I have no energy to meet even if you wanted to.. 79 miles, 6000' of climbing 19 gravel sections making for 18% of the distance, 341 TSS.. It's the hell of hunterdon and in the last 20 miles the gorillas wiped me up and spit me out!

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1459863319
  • Dave Legg said:
    Got the test done but the results were lower than the last test which I am thinking may have something to do with have a pretty bad head/chest cold for weeks 8-9 of training. I did manage to get some of each workout in but I cut the work load down during each session. Power was lower by about 5w which of course I wanted that to have an increase but that's what showed up today. So I am going to work at the same numbers I was using until the next test which I am hoping is the right direction to take, so any thoughts on this would help. Almost back to normal with the cold so hopefully that is in the past. Run test I will try tomorrow and see what happens
    @Dave Legg - I just went through that a few weeks ago with the last test. Keep the same numbers!
  • Test improved my watts by 8, so it is a good bump! Seems I don't test as well as I used to, so now I am still beating all of my Z3-5 target zones on a routine basis!

    Final push these next few weeks to get the final benefits out of this OS!
  • @Derrek Sanks - love it, guy trounces the )competition in the NYC half and goes to Broadway after wards.. I Hope it's a disney show because that might be cliche!

    I have no energy to meet even if you wanted to.. 79 miles, 6000' of climbing 19 gravel sections making for 18% of the distance, 341 TSS.. It's the hell of hunterdon and in the last 20 miles the gorillas wiped me up and spit me out!

    https://www.strava.com/activities/1459863319
    @Scott Dinhofer after 341 TSS, I'd be fried for a few days. Way to ride strong.
    We saw Book Of Mormon.
  • With no running, I went 165 mi in 10 hours, in 5 Zwift and one outdoor sessions. I've been doing OS since 2009/10, so I find getting my FTP, VO2, and ABP work on Zwift to be as if not more effective than slogan away at more structured training. But I think for those new to interval bike training, following the OS workouts is the better way to go - it's too easy to mess up the progression trying to DIY. But if you have 3 + OS years under your belt, trying something new while remaining disciplined sure relieves that potential monotony. For me it was 4+ years OS, 3 years Trainer Road (still with OS workouts), and now Yr 1 of the Zwift, using races for FTP and VO2 work, group rides for recovery, and EN team-mates to push me for 2.5 hours of ABP work.

    My "testing": a 15' flat race @ 253 AP/3.8 w/kg, followed 30 minutes later by a 37' climbing race @ NP 233/ 3.5 w/kg (VI: 1.01) confirmed my estimated FTP of 223. Although Strava suggests 245, and TP/WKO suggests 227, I'm going a little more conservative. My Time To Exhaustion is 1 hour and 1 minute, which is even better than last's summers peak just before my ITU Long Distance race. A good place to be as I ramp up for Mallorca and Bad Ass Camps.
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