Weigh in 7/21
So who needs to lose a few lbs before the A race. Me!
Anyway I'm on travel for work again and no scale, although I think I might have gone up 1 to 214.
Gordon
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So who needs to lose a few lbs before the A race. Me!
Anyway I'm on travel for work again and no scale, although I think I might have gone up 1 to 214.
Gordon
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You were looking quite svelt at Moo Camp!
woo hoo!!! awesome job ladies and not so bad yourself, Gordon! I'm a bit up from last week's Wed weigh in (about a pound), but I've been sliding down slowly and steadily the past month ... this past weekend was bad bc of eating out and fun/wine with friends (and this week of the month is always heavy for me . . . it's a girl thing), but happily, despite those two things working against me, it's come down since monday and I'm at 133.8. That's about 5 up from where I want to be now -- 128 is my normal and 125-6 is my race. I'd like to be in the 126-128 range when I start IM prep in earnest 8/23 (which is 11 weeks out). I'm optimistic I'll get there in the next month with the help of "clean" eating and getting back into volume training again (I started 5 weeks of HIM prep this week). I'm also doing about 15 minutes of strength type stuff a day (core, lunges, push ups), too... since there's not much time in my week to get to the gym to life and/or do plyo - which I used to be religious about.
I've been quietly following this series of threads as I've been trying to trim down a bit. I didn't get on at the beginning, so this is the first post I've made. But I can no longer contain myself. :-)
So how do you (in the general sense, not just "you") determine your ideal race weight? Is it just trial and error? Is there any good writing on this?
I guess I don't race enough to figure out what it should be by just trying over and over.
I did a marathon PR earlier in the year at 156 lbs, and I've since dropped ~11 lbs as I've trained for my "A" triathlon (a 70.3). I've slightly improved my run VDOT since April, and an easy conclusion might be that I've lost a bit of "run fitness" due to all the cross (i.e., triathlon) training, but more than made up for it with taking off the weight. On the other hand, maybe I've lost some ground in certain training activities by being at calorie deficit. Just not sure how to think about this in any quantitative sense.
I guess the one thing it makes me think of is how I might have done at my marathon if I weighed what I do now! :-)
BTW, it was nice to met you, however briefly, at the MOO camp. Nice to put a real face to the names I see so often.
Finally down into 145 territory thanks to Sunday's oly tri. I can only imagine what effect a HIM or IM would have. Only have one more week to get to goal weight 145.0 because next Thursday we leave on a 9-day cruise...
A vacation week included a lot of riding/running in the North Georgia mountains but also included a lot of wine and merriment (read rich foods and ridiculous desserts). Back on the wagon and still shooting to lose my Clydesdale status come IMLKY race date of 8/29.
Nemo,
That's perfect in another 6 weeks I will be getting a pedal at IMC, so I'm coverered. That is assuming a cross the finish line in <17 hours. Hopefully I did not just jinx myself but those are the rules.</p>
EDIT: Yes that should be medal but I will have to pedal to get there.
. That's what I get for typing fast at work.
Gordon
Gordon- I think you meant metal not pedal :-) We'll be rooting for you! No jinx here, just don't walk accross the finish line in Canada until race day
William- that's a really great question that is hard to answer. We had a discussion about this some time back, I'll see if I can find the threads (think it was in EN 3.0). Anyway- there is definitely a balancing act where the need to get lean starts to conflict with the need to fuel the workout. That's one of the reasons the coaches typically will say the best thing you can do is be at your goal weight at the start of Race Prep (note I'm not exactly following that advice- insert EN 3.0 smiley hiding behind a wall here).
For me- I know what that basic number is based on experience. 105 is reasonably lean, anything lower than that and I start to have trouble with having enough energy to do the workouts. It also means making a few extra sacrifices that I'm not willing to make (like splurging on a burrito or a slice of pizza after a long ride on Saturday). I'd LOVE to be 100 on race day- but I'd be a pretty unhappy 100.
William- I found the threads, they were in EN 3.0, here ya go:
www.endurancenation.us/en_forums/showthread.php
www.endurancenation.us/en_forums/showthread.php
thanks, Nemo. Very interesting. Based on Al's comment - when your friends beg you to eat, wonder if you're sick, and hold an intervention... I have my goal right (that's where I was last summer before my crash... and apparently, per my friends, I looked emaciated but I was eating everything in sight and strong as can be). :-) so, my quest continues... I just wish I had the time to work in strength training... other than 15 minutes of squats, core, and pushups in my office (with the door closed) during my lunch break.
An interesting thing pops out at me from the Daniels table in there.
Over the winter, I focused pretty hard on doing well at my spring marathon. I did some biking, but not like I would have in a true EN-outseason. Since then, my run VDOT has held (actually improved marginally), despite going hot and heavy in with true triathlon training... but I've also lost 10 lbs.
If those tables are to be believed, my Winter/spring self would kick my current self's butt in a run if it were at my current weight (about 10 min at marathon distance....). In other words (again, taking that table at face value), the only reason I remain as fast as I am (really not that fast...) with less running training and more other training is that the lower weight allows me to go that fast with less work. A bit ego-deflating, but an interesting datum!
And I'm back to counting cals. My sweet spot is 1800 cals. If I can burn 1800/day, as a 2-2.5hr hammer ride, then I can a ton and still be at or near my budget to lose 2/wk. But less than 1k (today was only 750, I cheesed on my last interval) and I'm starving right now with "only" 600 more cals in my budget for today. I was 800 under yesterday so...there you go
I'm doing a great job of keeping the produce industry in bidness but am the Destroyer of Fish and Chickens (sorry, Nemo)