Left my house at 4:20 this morning to get the long run in. It was already very humid and warm. Chose a pretty rolling hilly route. No where to get water along the route so only got in 24 oz and had 1 gu, wound up losing 5.25 lbs for the run.
Did 21 miles in 2:39:53. Because of all the hills it was hard to keep to the prescribed intervals ( also couldn't see my watch for the 1st hour of the run because of darkness) so just decided to run the flats harder. Wound up averaging 7:36 for the run.
Ice bath, nourishment, and rest done, now off to the beach with the family.
Good job on the long run people!!! Everybody is rockin' along.
I slept like crap last night- busy IM brain. Gotta remember this, have to do that, write this down. You guys know the drill??? OOB with AIS by 5:45 for the 30/30s, hit them all and then out the door for my brick run. Hips felt a little tight (residual from Tues LR), but had a SUPER brick run. Amazing that some of my better workouts are when I seem most tired.
Neems- Hang in there. Your head knows you aren't losing anything by stepping down, it's your heart that keeps whispering.
Bob - Way to get it done early. 4:20 is hard core.
David - That Dylan song may be the perfect accompaniment to the drone of the last 1/2 hour of long run.
Kitima - I hear you on motivation. Game's on! And we have so many people playing. So cool.
Nemo - Good job on standing down. Next week's long run will be waiting for you to crush it.
Nice job on long run everyone.
I did the brick run and then 30/30s last night, which I've never done in that order. New, special kind of torture.
2.5 hour long run in the bank. I kinda hated Patrick during that 30' of HMP section, but decided it was the closest my legs would get to feel like mile 22 of the race and just dug in. My road rash knee was feeling crunchy today, so I backed off a little and didn't completely kill myself, but everything felt pretty good in the end. Looking forward to the perfect brick-shaped bruise to heal!
And now I kinda want to go swimming. And eat a burrito.
Great job to everyone else out there who suffered through a long run in more of this gross weather, I feel like I got off pretty easy.
Long run this morning for me was pretty uneventful, weather seemed to break last night and I believe it was only 68 degrees and about the same dewpoint when I headed out the door. It has beena hot humid mess here for the past few weeks, so this morning was probably about as nice weather as I could hope for. No long run for me last week due to ragbrai, and the week's before that did not go well for me so I was not exactly brimming with confidence.
Ended up doing 2 out and backs, the first one 11 miles, stopped at my car, refilled my bottle I run with took half a flask of EFS gel and did a second 8 mile out and back for a total of 19 in 2:30 including my refill stop. Haven't synced my GPS yet but my intervals were near but not quite at the expected paces, probably 10sec above each the HMP and MP intervals. The run overall was not as fast as I would have liked and certainly not as fast as my last vdot test would indicate I'm capable of but I've been really struggling this entire week so I was happy enough just to be out there and getting work in to get myself back on track. Ended up drinking 40oz of water during the run which definitely was not enough, because I drank another 40z almost immediately when I got back to my car. Stopped at the company gym, showered, realized I had forgot my belt but continued to work anyway. Recovery wise had 2 scoops of Ultragen, compression socks on under my dress slacks, flipped my work computer sideways to use as an ottoman and thats about as fancy as it gets for me.
Hey, great long run reports folks! Very inspiring.
@Nemo - Keep your head up. You're doing the smart thing. I'm using you as an example to remind myself not to push this quad thing to a full-blown injury that would knock me out.
On the swim side of things, I'm happy to report that by following Linda's and other's advice on taking a couple day break from structured swim workouts I am feeling good again. I swam the endurance workout this morning (6 x 400, 6 x 100) and felt really good. Thanks guys! Now if I could get this quad issue behind me I should be back on track - my savior, Leigh, is helping me out with this one. I hope I can do my long ride tomorrow.
Also, thanks for the recommendations on Kinesio tape - I have a sample at home but need to probably see an expert. Where do you buy the stuff? Can you get it at any sporting goods retailer (Dick's, Sports Authority)?
Long run in the books - 70 degrees at 5'30 am start, high humidity, I have no idea how high, but I was soaked at the end just like I was after yesterday's brick in torrential rain. Also did not weigh myself before so didn't bother to afterwards either. Consumed about 20 oz Gatorade Endurance, 3 oz of water and one Hammer gel on the run. Logged 18 miles and pretty happy, have worried all summer about whether I could run long after my glute/piriformis problems. Definitely can log the miles but the speed is another issue. Hard to hit HMP today, hammie is VERY tight and piriformis crying, sucks. Sitting in this chair at my desk is making everything worse.
Anyone have issues with hmm, I want to use the word balance, but I find that some mornings I'm really hazy when I start running. Is that simply all this training in the heat and humidity? It's a little disconcerting to have such fuzziness around the eyes while trying to move forward at effort. You know?
Last question for the moment - lots of discussions in the forums about liquid nutrition, as in lots of smoothies consumed pre-race as well as for recovery. I have always prefered to actually eat something, I find liquids leave me wanting very shortly after I consume them. Am I missing out on a better form of recovery (you know, cup of coffee and big bowl of Raisin Bran vs super protein power smoothie, or whatever you call them?). I am also very fearful of the idea that a giant smoothie as dinner the night before IM is sufficient nutrition. I suppose if lunch is substantial enough? Thoughts/feedback?
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. I'm typing this in my tri shorts and top, ready for the double brick this afternoon. The weather looks reasonable (no T-storms) so I should be able to do this all outside which will make me happier. I continue to ice/roll/compress/stretch like a mad woman!
Leigh- I think I'm under control- thanks for the offier- but one Q- would Kineseo tape offer me any help with this issue?
Heather- for recovery- many folks use a smoothie or other liquid nutrition simply because it's easy to grab within those first critical 20 min post workout. Additionally, some folks (count me in this category) can't eat solid stuff immediately afterwards. So grabbing liquid to get the recovery nutrition started is just a matter of convenience. If you have access to solid food and can tolerate it- go for it!
On the pre-race strategy- the idea is to keep your bowels (and tummy) as clear as possible. So liquid is the way to go. You can have a normal (but light) dinner the night before the race. But many folks will just go liquid after that point. It's totally up to you- what can your tummy tolerate. But just be careful about anything too high in fiber or bulky that will cause you GI issues later on in the day. Your race rehearsal is the perfect place to test all of this out.
Hey, great long run reports folks! Very inspiring.
(Dick's, Sports Authority)?
Leigh pointed me to Sports Authority and they have it. Anyone in your area actually know how to tape? There are illustrations can come with the tape, but nothing that shows quad. Leigh showed me what to do, and I recreated on my other leg, but you need the PT or other expert to show what to do. I have to say, I could distinctly feel the load less on my quads when I ran this morning. Again, subtle, yet very effective. The stuff is kind of amazing. Have to help Jim get better!
Nemo--Kinesio taping your calf????
I'm warning y'all now, I'll be taped and running in my compression shorts--it will be a sight, and if you disavow knowing me, I won't blame you.
I'm warning y'all now, I'll be taped and running in my compression shorts--it will be a sight, and if you disavow knowing me, I won't blame you.
Are you kidding?? I'm THIS close to ordering pink calf compression sleeves to wear on the run! Talk about dorky! But at least it will match the visor??? If I had a TriSport coupon code they would already be on the UPS truck for delivery!
Heather--for pre-workout nutrition I typically drink about 250 Cal of Naked Juice about 45-60min before. If I didn't have to work and/or was really disciplined about getting up earlier, I would eat solid food (to include a small amount of lean protein and a high glycemic index carb) 2 hours before the workout. But as I'm always running behind, drinking liquid (fat-free)calories before the workout empties out of my stomach faster and I don't feel bloated during the workout, especially if it's a run. For post-workout recovery, the conventional wisdom is to refuel within 1 hour of the workout with 4:1 Carbrotein food. In the summer, smoothies are cold and yummy and quick to make. In the colder months, I like hot food, real food too---no powdered, processed anything.
2.5 done! Wish I was fast like Bob with 21 miles in 2:39:53 or David @ 17 miles or Heather @ 18 miles or Beth @ 16 miles....wow, u guys are speedy. I managed 14.20 miles Weather nice this am. cool breeze and not much humidity. I was thankful to not be drenched because the burn I got last weekend is still really sore and my shorts were rubbing as well as my bottle holder. I figured my lower back would look like ground beef by the time I returned....hurt like heck Any advice on what to put on burns? I have been using Burts Bees after sun lotion, but think I need something else.
Nemo-good idea to do something other than run today....hard though I'm sure, but smart! Get well soon!
I'm pretty serriously considering it for some nagging arch and achilies pain. It's a minor pain that doesn't stop be from doing anything but I want to try and get rid of it anyway. Rolling daily makes a huge difference but I can't get it to completely go away.
@Beth - 88% wow, it felt like soup but I had no idea. When I read all those posts from the southern girls with their high humidities I just assume we're much lower. Thanks.
Thanks all for the liquid nutrition comments. This is the first time in my life that I've worked from home so instead of my normal post-workout b-fast of a Clif bar on the train, I DO have access to a fridge/stove/toaster, etc and have tried to eat as close to real food as possible. I have half a banana as pre-workout (really can't stomach more banana than that in one sitting) and I do all my training first thing in the am, and like Ktima I draw the line at getting up even earlier than 5 something simply to fuel. On the smoothie front I'm basically just lazy to get all the equipment and fruit and stuff, I put all that in my yogurt at lunch!
@Nemo: I hear ya on the GI bit, I used my RR last week to test whole wheat pasta and well, I've ruled that out as a possible pre-race dinner item. Could be good 48 hours prior however, pre-race house cleaning . Good luck today and please post pics of the tape....
Posted By Heather La Freniere on 05 Aug 2010 11:55 AM
Anyone have issues with hmm, I want to use the word balance, but I find that some mornings I'm really hazy when I start running. Is that simply all this training in the heat and humidity? It's a little disconcerting to have such fuzziness around the eyes while trying to move forward at effort. You know?
Yes! I do! My head gets foggy when I stop and if I have to bend over to reach a drinking fountain I almost have to brace myself. I do not get as wobbly as I do at the company Christmas party but I do feel off kilter. I figure it is realted to fatigue. Just a guess though. I feel better when I am running.
Well there goes the swim. I had to change my week around a lot, and today was swim day #2. I have been so flat out all day with meetings that I haven't had any time to get to the pool. Now it's thundering non-stop and I doubt I'll have time later. Oh well. Thing is, this training and other fam stuff is making me VERY behind at work. Think I'll just put the swim behind me today and catch up in other areas of my life that need it.
@Matt--the tape looks just like the tape I use, just $$$ for one application. Could add up quick, but otherwise it looks just fine.
85. Sunny. 51% humidity on the lakefront in chicago - about to start my run after one of my shortest days at work ;-) Only i wish I could listen to those reports as a podcast. They seem to motivate me, but I NEED them on this damn run.... here it goes. will report in a couple of hours. -hb
Long run was brutally hot and humid this morning. The 1st 25 min. went good and the 3x10' at HMP went good. After that the sun was up and hot. The next 45 min. seemed like running in a boiler room. I managed to get the full 2:30 in but I never made it down to MP in the last 25 min. I still felt good about being able to train in this heat even if I could not hit the MP at the end.
Kitima I'm feeling the same way today. Let's rock it!
Matt - where is your pain in your achilles? when does it happen? do you stretch for your runs? when do you stretch? before or after? another question, and you're gonna think it's dumb I'm asking, do you use speedplays? -hb
Woke up early to get in the long run. I got in 18 miles in 2:34 on a very hilly route. Too hilly to do intervals so I just pushed it where the terrain allowed. I don't know about everyone else but I am exhausted. This heat and humidity is really taking it out of me. I am living in a constant state of dehydration. For nutrition I ate a banana and drank a glass of water prerun. During the run I had 240 calories of Ironman Perform and 1 gel. I drank about 64oz of water and still felt dehydrated when I finished. I took 3 S Caps and 3 Sportlegs. After the run I had Ultragen as my recovery drink and put my legs up on the wall for 20 minutes. Now, I have on my Zoot recovery tights. I have a feeling I am going to be very sore tomorrow. Great work everyone. It is inspiring to read about all the progress everyone is making. I was really suffering the last 2 miles and focused on the fact that I would feel this way the last 6 of the marathon. I really have to stay focused or the pace slows way down.
Matt - where is your pain in your achilles? when does it happen?
do you stretch for your runs? when do you stretch? before or after? another question, and you're gonna think it's dumb I'm asking, do you use speedplays?
-hb
I have slight pain in my arch close to the heel and also in the lower part of my achilles, maybe one to two inches from bottom of my foot. The achilles is fine most of the time but sensitve to the touch. If I put pressure on it for a few minutes the pain goes away and it is fine for a few days. Both are minor and just a nagging pain and have not stopped me from doing anything...but are irrating.
Worst in the morning or after sitting still for long periods of time. As long as I see a massage theripist to get the knots out of my calfs and I use the foam roller daily it is more than managible. I wrote it off to stand plantar fascititis (sp?) but the achilles part worses me a little. I have incredibly tight calfs muscles and my massage theripist can't believe how much I can destroy them inbetween my monthly appointments.
If it gets worse like right now, I get better at streching and rolling it multiple times durign the day and it goes away ... then I get lazy and it comes back. I would say on average it is bad 1 week a month, ok for 2, and completely fine for 1 week (typcially after the massage).
I have a potential opportunity to try out the spidertech stuff so I'm probably going to take it and figured I would see what folks thought of it.
Yes, but I do use speedplays and have for 3 or 4 years now. I switched from shimanos and like the speedplays much more.
24 hours and I was so far behind on my reading. I can't log on at work as much, besides today was busy.
All those long runs in HHH, what part of the country isn't having that weather?!! Good job everyone.
@Kathy- If you can get a prescription for Silvadene, it helps with pain and the burn. Or there is over the counter poison ivy medication that has Lidocaine in it.Cala-gel. I swear I put it on anything that itches and it gets better (except a rash).
So I decided to try swim RR#1. I was actually really psyched because I won a waterproof housing for the Ipod shuffle, so I thought I could listen to music, "thought" being the operative word there. Got to the lake and the breeze was blowing. I knew the main body would be rough, but the cove can be a bit more protected depending on wind direction. I had to swim around a small peninsula to get into the cove. My plan was an out and back x2. Well the wind direction was just perfect to keep the cove choppy as well. I was getting slapped with waves. My earpieces popped out repeatedly, so I finally just swam without music, which was even more boring since I didn't have to count strokes, just get it done. The return was into the wind and it felt like I was in an endless pool. I am a 36 minute HIM swimmer, so I knew that 45 minutes at the half way point was BAD. Started the second lap with dread, but knew I'd be turning around early- I have a job to go to so I can do this crazy stuff. Managed 2.1 miles in 1:20, again the return took much longer. Looking forward to a better swim with feet to follow and a "tide" of racers to pull me along.
As someone new to the long course, perhaps is misery loves company, but I feel a lot better after hearing others talk about having some challenge with this morning's run. I felt pretty good for about the whole thing, but at 2.5 hours I was absolutely ready to be done running. I certainly could have kept running, but it wasn't enjoyable anymore. I hit 17 miles at exactly 2:30, which is the longest I've ever run. I'm a little nervous about having another 9 miles to go (especially with the whole swimming and biking thing preceding it) come race day, but it sounds like most of you all felt pretty similar after this run. On a stand-alone run (i.e., no bike before it), should I feel like I could throw off the full 26.2 with no problem right now or is that just a pipe dream. Comparatively, I feel like the swim is no problem, I've done 112+ on the bike enough times that I don't sweat it, but my run confidence is certainly not at that same level. Is this where I should be right now?
2:30 in the bank; but pretty slow. Only ran 15.14 miles. Is that normal for my vDot of 37.1?!?! In all cases, felt good at the end of it, so ready for tomorrow;-) Weight at beginning 190.2. End 186.6. now time for the recovery..... -hb
Mark - one thing to keep in mind is right now we are all encountering a lot of training stress in our bodies. Come race day we will have tapered and be ready to give it all.
I can't speak from IM experience because Moo will be my first, however I can speak from Marathon experience. For my first marathon hitting 17-18-19 and finally 20 miles were incredibly difficult for me. This was pre-EN for me and I was on a distance rather than duration plan, so they told me to run 20 so by god I went and ran 20 no matter how long it took me. It was a pretty miserable experience when I finally did hit 20 I sure didn't feel like I had any more in me. Come race day though it wasn't a problem, I mean it was not a walk in the park but it certainly was a whole lot easier to go the distance than in training. You have to remember that in training you are not tapered rested and motivated like you are on race day, you are usually laden with fatigue from the rest of your training and just trying to get the workout done with so you can get on with your life.
In general though, I think it's pretty common (and pretty rational) to be nervous about the run. I have every confidence that it IS going to suck, those last miles are *not* going to be fun. That's when you really need to remember the 4 keys, you really need to find your "one thing" and hold on to it. I'm guessing most of the walkers out there are physically capable of continuing to run, they just didn't win the mental battle.
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Left my house at 4:20 this morning to get the long run in. It was already very humid and warm. Chose a pretty rolling hilly route. No where to get water along the route so only got in 24 oz and had 1 gu, wound up losing 5.25 lbs for the run.
Did 21 miles in 2:39:53. Because of all the hills it was hard to keep to the prescribed intervals ( also couldn't see my watch for the 1st hour of the run because of darkness) so just decided to run the flats harder. Wound up averaging 7:36 for the run.
Ice bath, nourishment, and rest done, now off to the beach with the family.
Good job on the long run people!!! Everybody is rockin' along.
I slept like crap last night- busy IM brain. Gotta remember this, have to do that, write this down. You guys know the drill??? OOB with AIS by 5:45 for the 30/30s, hit them all and then out the door for my brick run. Hips felt a little tight (residual from Tues LR), but had a SUPER brick run. Amazing that some of my better workouts are when I seem most tired.
Neems- Hang in there. Your head knows you aren't losing anything by stepping down, it's your heart that keeps whispering.
David - That Dylan song may be the perfect accompaniment to the drone of the last 1/2 hour of long run.
Kitima - I hear you on motivation. Game's on! And we have so many people playing. So cool.
Nemo - Good job on standing down. Next week's long run will be waiting for you to crush it.
Nice job on long run everyone.
I did the brick run and then 30/30s last night, which I've never done in that order. New, special kind of torture.
2.5 hour long run in the bank. I kinda hated Patrick during that 30' of HMP section, but decided it was the closest my legs would get to feel like mile 22 of the race and just dug in. My road rash knee was feeling crunchy today, so I backed off a little and didn't completely kill myself, but everything felt pretty good in the end. Looking forward to the perfect brick-shaped bruise to heal!
And now I kinda want to go swimming. And eat a burrito.
Great job to everyone else out there who suffered through a long run in more of this gross weather, I feel like I got off pretty easy.
Long run this morning for me was pretty uneventful, weather seemed to break last night and I believe it was only 68 degrees and about the same dewpoint when I headed out the door. It has beena hot humid mess here for the past few weeks, so this morning was probably about as nice weather as I could hope for. No long run for me last week due to ragbrai, and the week's before that did not go well for me so I was not exactly brimming with confidence.
Ended up doing 2 out and backs, the first one 11 miles, stopped at my car, refilled my bottle I run with took half a flask of EFS gel and did a second 8 mile out and back for a total of 19 in 2:30 including my refill stop. Haven't synced my GPS yet but my intervals were near but not quite at the expected paces, probably 10sec above each the HMP and MP intervals. The run overall was not as fast as I would have liked and certainly not as fast as my last vdot test would indicate I'm capable of but I've been really struggling this entire week so I was happy enough just to be out there and getting work in to get myself back on track. Ended up drinking 40oz of water during the run which definitely was not enough, because I drank another 40z almost immediately when I got back to my car. Stopped at the company gym, showered, realized I had forgot my belt but continued to work anyway. Recovery wise had 2 scoops of Ultragen, compression socks on under my dress slacks, flipped my work computer sideways to use as an ottoman and thats about as fancy as it gets for me.
Did someone say "burrito"?
Where...?
I was very hungry after my run and really have no idea what I ate... It didn't matter at that point. I hope the kids are ok...
Now that I'm at work (and obviously working very, very hard) I need to find a conference room without windows and get some shut eye. Ha, I wish!
@Nemo - Keep your head up. You're doing the smart thing. I'm using you as an example to remind myself not to push this quad thing to a full-blown injury that would knock me out.
On the swim side of things, I'm happy to report that by following Linda's and other's advice on taking a couple day break from structured swim workouts I am feeling good again. I swam the endurance workout this morning (6 x 400, 6 x 100) and felt really good. Thanks guys! Now if I could get this quad issue behind me I should be back on track - my savior, Leigh, is helping me out with this one. I hope I can do my long ride tomorrow.
Also, thanks for the recommendations on Kinesio tape - I have a sample at home but need to probably see an expert. Where do you buy the stuff? Can you get it at any sporting goods retailer (Dick's, Sports Authority)?
Jim- Although I ordered my tape, I think Dick's carries it.
Long run in the books - 70 degrees at 5'30 am start, high humidity, I have no idea how high, but I was soaked at the end just like I was after yesterday's brick in torrential rain. Also did not weigh myself before so didn't bother to afterwards either. Consumed about 20 oz Gatorade Endurance, 3 oz of water and one Hammer gel on the run. Logged 18 miles and pretty happy, have worried all summer about whether I could run long after my glute/piriformis problems. Definitely can log the miles but the speed is another issue. Hard to hit HMP today, hammie is VERY tight and piriformis crying, sucks. Sitting in this chair at my desk is making everything worse.
Anyone have issues with hmm, I want to use the word balance, but I find that some mornings I'm really hazy when I start running. Is that simply all this training in the heat and humidity? It's a little disconcerting to have such fuzziness around the eyes while trying to move forward at effort. You know?
Last question for the moment - lots of discussions in the forums about liquid nutrition, as in lots of smoothies consumed pre-race as well as for recovery. I have always prefered to actually eat something, I find liquids leave me wanting very shortly after I consume them. Am I missing out on a better form of recovery (you know, cup of coffee and big bowl of Raisin Bran vs super protein power smoothie, or whatever you call them?). I am also very fearful of the idea that a giant smoothie as dinner the night before IM is sufficient nutrition. I suppose if lunch is substantial enough? Thoughts/feedback?
Nice work today everyone.
Leigh- I think I'm under control- thanks for the offier- but one Q- would Kineseo tape offer me any help with this issue?
Heather- for recovery- many folks use a smoothie or other liquid nutrition simply because it's easy to grab within those first critical 20 min post workout. Additionally, some folks (count me in this category) can't eat solid stuff immediately afterwards. So grabbing liquid to get the recovery nutrition started is just a matter of convenience. If you have access to solid food and can tolerate it- go for it!
On the pre-race strategy- the idea is to keep your bowels (and tummy) as clear as possible. So liquid is the way to go. You can have a normal (but light) dinner the night before the race. But many folks will just go liquid after that point. It's totally up to you- what can your tummy tolerate. But just be careful about anything too high in fiber or bulky that will cause you GI issues later on in the day. Your race rehearsal is the perfect place to test all of this out.
Leigh pointed me to Sports Authority and they have it. Anyone in your area actually know how to tape? There are illustrations can come with the tape, but nothing that shows quad. Leigh showed me what to do, and I recreated on my other leg, but you need the PT or other expert to show what to do. I have to say, I could distinctly feel the load less on my quads when I ran this morning. Again, subtle, yet very effective. The stuff is kind of amazing. Have to help Jim get better!
Nemo--Kinesio taping your calf????
I'm warning y'all now, I'll be taped and running in my compression shorts--it will be a sight, and if you disavow knowing me, I won't blame you.
Are you kidding?? I'm THIS close to ordering pink calf compression sleeves to wear on the run! Talk about dorky! But at least it will match the visor??? If I had a TriSport coupon code they would already be on the UPS truck for delivery!
I have some "MOO" Rock tape, but it did not stick as well as Kinesio.
Heather - It was 88% humidity at 5 a.m.
For post-workout recovery, the conventional wisdom is to refuel within 1 hour of the workout with 4:1 Carb
2.5 done! Wish I was fast like Bob with 21 miles in 2:39:53 or David @ 17 miles or Heather @ 18 miles or Beth @ 16 miles....wow, u guys are speedy. I managed 14.20 miles
Weather nice this am. cool breeze and not much humidity. I was thankful to not be drenched because the burn I got last weekend is still really sore and my shorts were rubbing as well as my bottle holder. I figured my lower back would look like ground beef by the time I returned....hurt like heck
Any advice on what to put on burns? I have been using Burts Bees after sun lotion, but think I need something else.
Nemo-good idea to do something other than run today....hard though I'm sure, but smart! Get well soon!
Nicely done everyone...keep it up!
Have any of you guys tied the SpiderTech Pre-Cut tape: http://www.nucapmedical.com/products.html
I'm pretty serriously considering it for some nagging arch and achilies pain. It's a minor pain that doesn't stop be from doing anything but I want to try and get rid of it anyway. Rolling daily makes a huge difference but I can't get it to completely go away.
@Beth - 88% wow, it felt like soup but I had no idea. When I read all those posts from the southern girls with their high humidities I just assume we're much lower. Thanks.
Thanks all for the liquid nutrition comments. This is the first time in my life that I've worked from home so instead of my normal post-workout b-fast of a Clif bar on the train, I DO have access to a fridge/stove/toaster, etc and have tried to eat as close to real food as possible. I have half a banana as pre-workout (really can't stomach more banana than that in one sitting) and I do all my training first thing in the am, and like Ktima I draw the line at getting up even earlier than 5 something simply to fuel. On the smoothie front I'm basically just lazy to get all the equipment and fruit and stuff, I put all that in my yogurt at lunch!
@Nemo: I hear ya on the GI bit, I used my RR last week to test whole wheat pasta and well, I've ruled that out as a possible pre-race dinner item. Could be good 48 hours prior however, pre-race house cleaning
. Good luck today and please post pics of the tape....
Yes! I do! My head gets foggy when I stop and if I have to bend over to reach a drinking fountain I almost have to brace myself. I do not get as wobbly as I do at the company Christmas party
but I do feel off kilter. I figure it is realted to fatigue. Just a guess though. I feel better when I am running.
Well there goes the swim. I had to change my week around a lot, and today was swim day #2. I have been so flat out all day with meetings that I haven't had any time to get to the pool. Now it's thundering non-stop and I doubt I'll have time later. Oh well. Thing is, this training and other fam stuff is making me VERY behind at work. Think I'll just put the swim behind me today and catch up in other areas of my life that need it.
@Matt--the tape looks just like the tape I use, just $$$ for one application. Could add up quick, but otherwise it looks just fine.
Only i wish I could listen to those reports as a podcast. They seem to motivate me, but I NEED them on this damn run....
here it goes. will report in a couple of hours.
-hb
Long run was brutally hot and humid this morning. The 1st 25 min. went good and the 3x10' at HMP went good. After that the sun was up and hot. The next 45 min. seemed like running in a boiler room. I managed to get the full 2:30 in but I never made it down to MP in the last 25 min. I still felt good about being able to train in this heat even if I could not hit the MP at the end.
Kitima I'm feeling the same way today. Let's rock it!
do you stretch for your runs? when do you stretch? before or after? another question, and you're gonna think it's dumb I'm asking, do you use speedplays?
-hb
I have slight pain in my arch close to the heel and also in the lower part of my achilles, maybe one to two inches from bottom of my foot. The achilles is fine most of the time but sensitve to the touch. If I put pressure on it for a few minutes the pain goes away and it is fine for a few days. Both are minor and just a nagging pain and have not stopped me from doing anything...but are irrating.
Worst in the morning or after sitting still for long periods of time. As long as I see a massage theripist to get the knots out of my calfs and I use the foam roller daily it is more than managible. I wrote it off to stand plantar fascititis (sp?) but the achilles part worses me a little. I have incredibly tight calfs muscles and my massage theripist can't believe how much I can destroy them inbetween my monthly appointments.
If it gets worse like right now, I get better at streching and rolling it multiple times durign the day and it goes away ... then I get lazy and it comes back. I would say on average it is bad 1 week a month, ok for 2, and completely fine for 1 week (typcially after the massage).
I have a potential opportunity to try out the spidertech stuff so I'm probably going to take it and figured I would see what folks thought of it.
Yes, but I do use speedplays and have for 3 or 4 years now. I switched from shimanos and like the speedplays much more.
All those long runs in HHH, what part of the country isn't having that weather?!! Good job everyone.
@Kathy- If you can get a prescription for Silvadene, it helps with pain and the burn. Or there is over the counter poison ivy medication that has Lidocaine in it.Cala-gel. I swear I put it on anything that itches and it gets better (except a rash).
So I decided to try swim RR#1. I was actually really psyched because I won a waterproof housing for the Ipod shuffle, so I thought I could listen to music, "thought" being the operative word there. Got to the lake and the breeze was blowing. I knew the main body would be rough, but the cove can be a bit more protected depending on wind direction. I had to swim around a small peninsula to get into the cove. My plan was an out and back x2. Well the wind direction was just perfect to keep the cove choppy as well. I was getting slapped with waves. My earpieces popped out repeatedly, so I finally just swam without music, which was even more boring since I didn't have to count strokes, just get it done. The return was into the wind and it felt like I was in an endless pool. I am a 36 minute HIM swimmer, so I knew that 45 minutes at the half way point was BAD. Started the second lap with dread, but knew I'd be turning around early- I have a job to go to so I can do this crazy stuff. Managed 2.1 miles in 1:20, again the return took much longer. Looking forward to a better swim with feet to follow and a "tide" of racers to pull me along.
Packing to head to Cape Cod for RR tomorrow.
As someone new to the long course, perhaps is misery loves company, but I feel a lot better after hearing others talk about having some challenge with this morning's run. I felt pretty good for about the whole thing, but at 2.5 hours I was absolutely ready to be done running. I certainly could have kept running, but it wasn't enjoyable anymore. I hit 17 miles at exactly 2:30, which is the longest I've ever run. I'm a little nervous about having another 9 miles to go (especially with the whole swimming and biking thing preceding it) come race day, but it sounds like most of you all felt pretty similar after this run. On a stand-alone run (i.e., no bike before it), should I feel like I could throw off the full 26.2 with no problem right now or is that just a pipe dream. Comparatively, I feel like the swim is no problem, I've done 112+ on the bike enough times that I don't sweat it, but my run confidence is certainly not at that same level. Is this where I should be right now?
In all cases, felt good at the end of it, so ready for tomorrow;-)
Weight at beginning 190.2. End 186.6. now time for the recovery.....
-hb
I can't speak from IM experience because Moo will be my first, however I can speak from Marathon experience. For my first marathon hitting 17-18-19 and finally 20 miles were incredibly difficult for me. This was pre-EN for me and I was on a distance rather than duration plan, so they told me to run 20 so by god I went and ran 20 no matter how long it took me. It was a pretty miserable experience when I finally did hit 20 I sure didn't feel like I had any more in me. Come race day though it wasn't a problem, I mean it was not a walk in the park but it certainly was a whole lot easier to go the distance than in training. You have to remember that in training you are not tapered rested and motivated like you are on race day, you are usually laden with fatigue from the rest of your training and just trying to get the workout done with so you can get on with your life.
In general though, I think it's pretty common (and pretty rational) to be nervous about the run. I have every confidence that it IS going to suck, those last miles are *not* going to be fun. That's when you really need to remember the 4 keys, you really need to find your "one thing" and hold on to it. I'm guessing most of the walkers out there are physically capable of continuing to run, they just didn't win the mental battle.