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Garmin 310XT for Ironman...battery/memory life?

I've been using my Garmin 310XT for about a year now and have come to like it quite a bit for racing.  One unit for swim, bike, run, just wonderful.  BUT, I've only used it for races up to a HIM (roughly 6 hours).  With IMWI around the corner, I'm starting to wonder if the battery life is going to make it through the whole Ironman (which for me may be 16 hours).

Sooooo, anyone else out there use a 310XT for their Ironman?  Did you use it for everything?  And did you do anything "special" to the settings to help save battery/memory life?

I'm pretty sure memory life will be fine if I just clear the memory the night before the race.  It's the battery that has me a little concerned.

Thanks!

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  • To piggy bag on Nemo's questions, I would like to ask if it's possible to change the display in Multisport mode. Since I am still a HR athlete, will need to see my HR during my bike, and in multisport mode, I can't show HR. My current plan is to use 310XT for Bike (Bike mode) and Run (Run mode), and use another watch to time all from swim to finish. Another disadvantage I find using this watch during swim is - how can you remove your full wetsuit without taking your watch off??
  • Yasko- I use multisport mode too. I just hit the "up" button and it switches the display to the bike mode (or run mode, depending on which sport I'm in at that time). Very easy. I actually have HR on one data screen and my power on another so I can easily reference the HR data if I need to.

    Will agree- getting the wetsuit over the watch is a bit of a challenge. But those wetsuit strippers are amazing!
  • Not sure about battery life but a few tips...
    - Make sure you have the latest firmware with the swim settings turned on as that will not only save battery it will give you a much more accurate distance
    -Turn the back light completely off
    -Turn off any sensor you don't have (i.e. if you don't have a speed sensor or footpod, set them to off so it is not searching for them)

    @Yasko - yes you can change the multisport mode with what ever screens you would like. Put the watch into multisport mode and then go to each of the sports like you are doing a race and you can set the screens for each in the menu. While you are racing you can use the arrows to see the different screens.

    I just pull really hard to get the wetsuit off over the watch.
  • Thanks, Nemo and Matt. I feel stooopid. I spent some time looking at manuals, etc. trying to figure it out. All I needed to do was to throw the question to my smart EN mates. I think I will use it at IMLou for the entire course. I will be using this as a speedometer, so just need to remember to move the watch between my wrist and bike mount and back to my wrist.
  • I just got mine about 10 days ago, so I'll add a couple of my questions.  Any guidance on lifetime athlete - does choosing this increase or decrease calorie calculations - does it impact anything else?  I saw Matt just pulls hard to get the wetsuit off, but do people wear it uder the sleeve - ever any problems accidentally hitting the lap button when taking your wetsuit off?

    Nemo - didn't see an answer to your 16 hour question, but that's one I'm interested in as well - that's one of the reasons I thought the 310 would work for me.  I guess I could always pull out my old polar 625 for IM distance races, but the pace seems to be getting unreliable on the run, and I'm starting to depend on that being accurate.

  • I will be able to give you a full report after this weekend as I am using mine for Ironman Louisville. I may put it under my cap for the swim but will decide once I am there. I have tried it during a couple of OWS and it works great, especially with the swim feature enabled as Matt pointed out. I worry about getting clocked in the head and having the cap come of in an actual race though. Either way, I am wearing it for the duration so I will let you know. If it runs out of juice during the marathon then it may be a blessing in disguise as it may depress me to see the slow pace I keep in the Louisville heat!
  • That would be great! Thanks Mark!
  • @Bob I think you'd have to work pretty hard to get it to stay under your wetsuit sleeve anyway. It's so high off your wrist that it will almost certainly work its way out from underneath in that hour of swimming. If it doesn't, count yourself lucky. But be prepared to yank the wetsuit over it.

    One of the big improvements of the 310xt over its predecessors is the improved battery life. We have one that my son usually uses, and I haven't tested it this way, but it's supposed to be good for 20+ hours. I think mancona (as always) has good tips about helping extend teh life (i.e., making sure it's not looking for sensors you don't have). Another similar tip is that if you must wear it for a watch in the early morning, they run almost indefinitely with the gps off... you COULD run it for hours in the pre-swim morning with the gps off without draining the battery much at all, but then you do need to remember to turn the gps back on as the race approaches!!!
  • Posted By William Jenks on 25 Aug 2010 09:12 AM

    Another similar tip is that if you must wear it for a watch in the early morning, they run almost indefinitely with the gps off... you COULD run it for hours in the pre-swim morning with the gps off without draining the battery much at all, but then you do need to remember to turn the gps back on as the race approaches!!!





     

    That is a really good tip and probably the best way to save battery since GPS is the .  As you don't need the GPS to be active prior to the race.

    Heck, if you don't care about measuring the distance of the swim and have a power tap or speed sensor, you actually could leave GPS off until about mile 100 or so of the bike.  I would turn it on around mile 100 as it takes a whiel to acquire a signal while moving.

    Basically the 310 becomes a stop watch for most of the day, but is already on your wrist and ready to go when you start the run.

    As William said...the big key here is DO NOT FORGET to turn the GPS back on a little before you need it.

  • Hi Guys,
    Sorry that I have been out of touch, I have been checking in here and there and focusing on other things; but I should be back to full swing in not too long though.
    Anyway, Nemo, I did St George with the 310 and it was on for almost 17 hours with not problems what so ever, I think I even got another 3-4 hours out of it in the following weeks. I don't use it as the bike monitor though, I ran the Powertap through something else so I am not sure if that would affect anything.
    But I had the GPS on the whole time.
    Let me know if you have any other questions.
    Wei
  • Thanks Wei (and welcome back too!) I suspect the ANT+ connection using it as the PT Computer will zap some of the battery life as well. This is all really helpful advise. I need to go find my manual to see how to turn on/off the GPS and then figure out if I will have the brain power to do it somewhere towards the end of the bike course!
  •  I think you will be good to go just using it normally.  Having to turn on and off the GPS out there on the road seems like a bad plan to me.  I would rather just put it on in T2 if that were the plan.  I say go for it.  Figure if it is designed to go for 17 hours plus it is going to either last that whole time or worst case die in the 14-15 hour range unless the issue is unrelated to battery life in which case it does not matter anyway.  You are going to be finished by then.  Even if my estimates are off and If you are moving really well and it dies on the second half of the run it won't matter anyhow, you keep moving well.  If you are walking in the dark at 15 hours and it dies it does not matter as it will be obvious that you are not going very fast and should go faster if possible.  

    The key use for the Garmin is to keep you in check early on in the run.  It is unlikely that you will have that problem in the second half.  

  • Nemo, I used it during IM Lou, and the battery lasted just fine. Although I didn't wear it during the swim (left it on my bike), I turned it on around 5:20am, finished the race, and I turned it off around 10pm. GPS was on the whole time, but I don't have a powermeter, so didn't use it for that.
  • Thanks Yasko! Very helpful information. And congrats on your race too- you folks at IMLou really did us all proud!
  • @bob, you can lock to interface so you are not able to push any buttons while the 310 is under your wetsuit. push the MODE and the up arrow at the same time. This locks all of the buttons. You have to remember, if you want to change screens or use the LAP functionality, you have to fist unlock (MODE & up arrow) to buttons.
  • Nemo, I wore mine at Ironman LOU and had it on all day. I wore it under my cap on the swim and it did a phenomenal job. Showed the distance at 2.41 miles. (I turned it on about 6:30am) I also used it on my bike with a quark power meter. I got pulled from the run about 7 miles in from heat exhaustion. Pretty humiliating as fit as I am but for the purposes of this thread you should know that in my delirious state, I neglected to turn off the Garmin. If fact, it wasn't until about 2:30am when I woke up for the first time and found it buzzing tell me that it lost the satellite signal that I realized it was still on. It appears that it took me about ten hours to go 7 miles on the run. A new low. LOL! I had taken in 3 bags of fluid that night so I was coherent enough to laugh at that fact but not enough to do the math. That came later in the day. Anyway, it still has juice and I am still not getting the "low battery" warning. Good luck in Wisconsin Nemo! I'll be watching!
  • Thanks Mark- and all of you Louisville who confirmed the battery will make it! Nothing like real life experience to make ya feel confident in your gear.

    Mark- sooooo sorry to hear about the heat exhaustion. It was a rough day out there for a lot of people.
  • The button lock is only if you're running current version firmware, the latest as of this post is v2.9
  • I can't get the button lock to work - I do have version 2.9 of the software. Do I have to be in a particular screen, or ?
  • @bob

    Firmware version 2.4:

    Added Key Lock feature (Press the Mode and Up keys at the same time to turn on and off).
  • I've created a Garmin 310xt page on the wiki.

    @bob - I think the info on the page will help you out.
  • Just a quick follow up to this thread to report my results. My race went a little over 15 hours and I used the Garmin the entire way (swim to finish). I charged the Garmin fully the day before the race and turned it on just before hopping in the water. I thought I'd started the Multisport function and hit Start and then Stop immediately while waiting for the gun to go off so that all I had to do was hit Start again. Unfortunately I didn't really start the Multifunction so my "Swim" showed up as a run, and when I finally got to the bike I had to basically stop that workout and THEN start Multifunction, selecting Lap twice to get myself back onto the "bike".

    I did use 15 minute alerts throughout the bike course as well and left the GPS Sattelites running the whole time. The Garmin lasted for the full race, and even ran a bit longer since I forgot to hit stop/off when I crossed the finish line.

    After getting home, downloading everything, and then taking some recovery time. I pulled the Garmin out for a short 35 min run. It wasn't until I was downloading the data that I finally got a "battery low" alert.

    So, I think it's pretty safe to assume it will last 16 hours. I'm not sure if it would go a full 17 though.
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