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Weekly Run Thread - 9/27/10

Based on my post yesterday, there appears to be some interest in a weekly run only thread.  This is not a *runners only* thread, but a thread for people to post their run stuff, etc. even though you may still be in-season or biking and swimming as well waiting for their OS to start.  Or folks ramping for a half or full marry and want to post hpw they are doing!

I am currently following the Daniels 5k/10k program that the EN vDot system is based on.  I am in Phase 1 Week 2 and for the first 4 weeks it is frequency and LRP runs.  After that is goes into intervals, hills, etc.  I have run 9 of the last 11 days for a minimum of 45 minutes each day.  Legs are getting used to the frequency.  I will be doing this program until January OS starts.

Today was, as expected, 45 minutes at LRP with ~10 minutes at tempo pace (legs just wanted to go).  One thing I am trying to focus on is cadence and keeping it at 180 is tough.  Any thoughts on how to build consistency with that?

John

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  • I will play with you John.

    I am on the "exited to be able to run again plan" as of last evening.  4 easy miles on the TM last night watching the Yankee game.  The hole in my knee did not pull apart which was really nice.  Felt a little weird to be running after 9 days of doing nothing but that is to be expected.  Ran a nice flat 4 mile loop this morning in a little under 30 minutes.

    Turns out my irrational fears about losing all fitness by doing nothing for 9 days were unfounded.  Good to be back at it!

  •  I'm in the same boat as Chris.  I've run 4-5 times since my half, but very slow miles.  I feel good and plan to continue to my OS.  I would've run yesterday but I had a XC meet to coach, then it was cancelled, no clothes.  Wanted to run today, but XC meet rescheduled!  I'll get out later tonight I think if its not a flood here.  

  • I am kind of in the same boat as Chris. Been on the shelf with some ankle tendinitis and today was my first run in 10 days. It was a glorious day out so I put my little one in the stroller and ran 4 miles at my easy pace. Felt so great to be out again running. Feel so energized right now. Hungrier too.
  • Maybe we should call this the running REHAB thread. 

    Glad everyone is on the way up!  Good work.

  • I'll play too John.  But I won't be just running either but I'll throw in a little bike here and there.  Really need the run frequency since I had a little thing get in the way of running for the past 2 months.

    Feels like I'm starting over completely as my first run back at it was 4 miles at what used to be stupid easy (8:00 miles)  and I thought my lungs were going to come right out of my chest.  Hope the drugs will kick in soon as the treatments have me way tired with no energy still.

  •  @John, that's funny as shit!!!  Good idea!

  • I got a few runs in this week while traveling in Iowa. Found a nice trail near Northern Iowa University and got in 4 miles and a little over 5 this morning. I haven't run more than that since imwi. I've gained some weight since then so every mile seems harder. I actually ran a 5K on Sunday before I left to a personal worst and lost several vdot points. yikes! I really want to be a runner. Hopefully I can get rid of that weight quickly.
  • Had been consistently running in the same area down toward the beach(makai) but we needed to take a rented DVD back today so we literally 'ran' the errand and the headed mauka(toward the mountains) and did some hills. It's part of the course for local 10k held Nov 14th. Did a mile more than originally planned but still feel great.

    So my running guru question- what is the purpose of strides? RnP have us do them as does Daniels and I admit I always ignored that in the past but now I'm doing them three runs a week(out of seven). But why?

    Lynne
  •  Sorry, I punked out last night after my meet.  I was so hungry when I got home I ate like a horse.  Sausage doesn't sit well with me when I run!  I'll get something going once the monsoon passes here in Oneonta, ny

  • Trent, I love that your stupid easy is my threshold pace. =-)

    Still standing down on running until next week, but there has been lots of yoga. We'll see if super-adjustment instructor can get my shoulder blades to relax this week. (which theoretically would be good for running)
  • @Dan - Sausage and a long run?  Good call on bailing.  :-)

    @Beth, I was thinking the same thing when I saw Trent's post. 

    @Trent - Glad to see ya back.  You will get you run back! 

     

    I ran my usual :45 this morning.  Legs really peppy and ran 23 seconds per mile faster than the previous bunch of days.  Felt good to push it a bit into Z2+.  It's not part of the plan, but just had to do it.  :-) 

    Also, I am almost at the lightest body weight I have been in over 20 years!  One pound to go and 4.5 lbs. and I will be sub-Clydesdale!  And I go see my nutritionist next week for a BodPod test to get my body fat %.  Hopefully that is where most of the weight loss is coming from.  I am setting myself up for some good run gains.  Let's hope.

     

  • love it... especially since I'm one of the maybe 10 people still training.    It's stormy here and I'm trying to figure out what to do/how to do my 2.5 hour run.  This morning was really bad... lunch time was really bad.  But I think the tornado warnings have passed and while there still may be flash flood warnings, they're not for my area... The rain seems to be letting up... and I haven't heard a T'storm warning in a while.  But 2.5 hours is a long time to be out there and who knows how many systems can pass through in that time... grumble... I suppose I've been really lucky, there haven't been many times where weather has sidelined me (granted, I did spend a few code red weekends on the drainer instead of outside in 100+humidity)... but this is of course my longest run of training and I don't want to skip it!

    I ate around noon hoping that by 2 or 2:30 the weather would be cooperating... we'll see...

    Your thoughts?  Do some drainer time instead of run?  If so, how much?  Add the run after my 4.5 hour ride Sat (well, maybe after my ride and a nap)?  I could go to the gym (would have to pay for paIrking after 2 hours) but 2.5 on a mill would kill me.  Seriously, I just don't think I could do more than an hour (and even then I would be pissy)...

  • Posted By Becky Hirselj on 30 Sep 2010 12:29 PM

    love it... especially since I'm one of the maybe 10 people still training.    It's stormy here and I'm trying to figure out what to do/how to do my 2.5 hour run.  This morning was really bad... lunch time was really bad.  But I think the tornado warnings have passed and while there still may be flash flood warnings, they're not for my area... The rain seems to be letting up... and I haven't heard a T'storm warning in a while.  But 2.5 hours is a long time to be out there and who knows how many systems can pass through in that time... grumble... I suppose I've been really lucky, there haven't been many times where weather has sidelined me (granted, I did spend a few code red weekends on the drainer instead of outside in 100+humidity)... but this is of course my longest run of training and I don't want to skip it!

    I ate around noon hoping that by 2 or 2:30 the weather would be cooperating... we'll see...

    Your thoughts?  Do some drainer time instead of run?  If so, how much?  Add the run after my 4.5 hour ride Sat (well, maybe after my ride and a nap)?  I could go to the gym (would have to pay for paIrking after 2 hours) but 2.5 on a mill would kill me.  Seriously, I just don't think I could do more than an hour (and even then I would be pissy)...



    @Becky,

     

    I'm similarly struggling to find the time to fit in today's 2.5 hour run.  Wife is out of town and busy day at the office (last week I blew off the morning at the office to do the 2.25 hour run!  Priorities, priorities).  At this point in my training, I'm using the EN plans as more of an outline and the coaches are probably going to ream me for saying that.  Needless to say, I'm kiboshing my run today for 1.5 hours on drainer doing the 8, 10, 20, 10, 8 intervals.  If I can't go far today, I might as well work on fast.  I'll try for my 2.5 hour run on Saturday since I can't get away to do the 4 hour ride.  Will do my 4  hour ride and run on Sunday. 

  • Chris: Nice to see your back from that knee flap incident!

    Trent: Welcome back, my friend! Stupid easy = 8 min/miles huh? image

    Dan: Good call on sausage/no run. I ran last night after eating 1/2 rack of ribs. I think the whole neighborhood stank of my meat burps.

    Going out again tonight for another 30-40 minute run. No Garmin. Easy peasy. The first 15 minutes have been "ouch ouch ouch, achy achy achy" then I'm fine. I told myself I just ran 26 miles in unbelievable pain 2 weeks ago at IMWI so suck it up, buttercup!image
  •  Kitima: oh God, ribs.  I just barfed in my mouth thinking about that run!!!!!!!!  Thank goodness I'm not even in the OS yet, I don't feel guilty about working out right now....

  • Got in a cool 6 mile trail run today through state park. Awesome to just not think and look at the surroundings and just run. Shocked myself with an average pace of 7:45 so I was happy with that. Although it took it out of me for the rest of the day. Come on drugs.... kick in!!
  • Becky don't know what you decided but I am not a treadmill peep. so I woulda taken a rest day if lightning. by now it is evening. sorry I didn't read this earlier. rain I run in, lightning I don't. and with work you only have XX hours to train in. which now puts you behind a key run, so I know you will fret. if you run tomorrow then maybe you can move the long ride to Sunday or you suck it up on the ride! yep it hurts! back to back like that. I have done it that way too and if you can you could start late Saturday afternoon to allow for more recovery time, my two cents. I have also fudged and done a long brick run after my bike and then sorta done another long brick, like tomorrow you could do a 1.5 hour run and then sat do a 1 hour brick. you know just sorta think of the whole picture. I have also done double runs. so only have time for X and finish it up later in the day. I have also done the long run on Monday but then it isn't a week to the next one so just sorta factor that in and cut back somewhere. m
  •  I'll keep the streak up, pepperoni rolls tonight and a night out with the wife and no kids.... no run!!!  I'll keep you posted on how much I don't run!!!

  • Taking today off. Sick of the treadmill and the rain is a bit silly.
  • @Clinton and Marianne - the weather just never really seemed to let up enough to where I felt that being out there that long would be wise... so after work (at 4), I re-did Wed's brick sitting on the drainer for an hour doing 3x(5x30/30s) and then a 30 min run (I felt safe out there for that long, did a short loop near my house - it started raining again halfway through... and by the time I was eating dinner it was coming down pretty hard again).  I got up on my usual schedule today and came in 1.5 hours early to leave at 3:30 - so I plan to do the long run tonight.  I'll have daylight for most of it, probably only getting dark once I'm off the trail and in my hood with streetlights, etc... but reflective gear will be with me!

    I'll keep my schedule tomorrow for the long ride, maybe starting later than usual.  After the work segments if I'm exhausted, I'll cut it short a bit... or suffer through it... we'll see... stinks but hey, that's how it goes sometimes. 

  •  Chris G.  I too am sick of the rain, but I've run in it twice this week already.  I simply refuse to get on a treadmill.  

  • Posted By Dan Forbes on 30 Sep 2010 07:48 PM

     I'll keep the streak up, pepperoni rolls tonight and a night out with the wife and no kids.... no run!!!  I'll keep you posted on how much I don't run!!!

    I like this off-season consumption of salted pork products and fatty meats. It's way more yummy than SALAD.

    I'm kinda running tonight: cyclocross practice. Kev and I will be dismounting and running over imaginary barriers on the Auburn Trail tonight.  Hoping for no crotch disasters tonight with jumping back on the bikes.



     

  •  Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...... I'll get out with xc kids today, if it ever stops raining.

  • I am starting to see a break in the clouds here, I think I will be able to get out and run by 2, hoping to do about 9 miles today. Looks like it might turn into a great day to run. (fingers crossed)
  • @Christy fingers crossed... I'm leaving work early to get my run in.  So far so good and I actually saw the sun just a minute ago!

    @Kit - good luck with that.  I have the same hope for my weekend ... Todd sent me an Adamo saddle to try.  I might wait til my Sun 3 hour ride for the test ride.

  • Posted By John Stark on 29 Sep 2010 11:23 AM

    ... One thing I am trying to focus on is cadence and keeping it at 180 is tough.  Any thoughts on how to build consistency with that?...

    Have you considered something like this?

    http://www.finisinc.com/P-105015/Tempo-Trainer

    Works great in the pool too.

  • I have been taking it easy on the legs for the last week. I'm going to race a 5k tomorrow morning just to see where my fitness is at.
  • I'm starting the taper for the Denver Marathon on Oct. 17. Did my last long run (20 mi) last weekend, and hit 5/8/5 on M/T/W. Rested yesterday, and then ran an easy 4 @ goal race pace this morning. 12 more slated for tomorrow... shooting for ~8:30/mi.

    Sorry to hear you folks in the northeast are having nasty weather. It's been GORGEOUS here in Colorado. :-D
  • Hammering out schedule slowly. Darned IM recovery + treaded cold (came down with day AFTER IM) has decimated my early am runs. No matter how early go to bed, just not getting up. Ran 2X this week and easy pace (amen Beth- Trent- you rock! I am HOPING to keep a 8:15 pace on relay coming up. I'd be tickled pink to do 7:45's). Several run opportunities this weekend so likely an easy 10 miler tomorrow and some trail running Sun. Have friend who's doing the Pinhoit 100 in Nov and planned to go down and do some pacing for her. (she is SUPER strong, fast runner and one of the few people that almost ALWAYS looks like she's enjoying every step of running- great person to be around). Looking at 4 day week running schedule thru Jan for the Goofy, with core/yoga mixed in. Weather permitting- will throw in 2 bikes and one of the runs likely trail or pool.
  •  @Kitboo - avoiding all "crotch disasters" is something I strive for at all times 

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