Infinit for newbies??
ok, have done all the reading on infinit. not sure what mixture i would order, but wondering why people (around here at least) seem to swear on this vs utilizing the ironman perform drink on the course.
seems to me that by using the IMP drink on the course, i can get my cals and water intake from 1.5 - 2 bottles per hour...
any thoughts?
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If you are comfortable using what is on the course then go for it.
EN has a customized IM mix, I think I added a few more calories, more protein, and more sodium to mine. We also get a discount too, check out the wiki.
Of course, everyone is different, but I also swear by the Infinit solution. I like being able to add my own ingredients in, especially caffeiene. Im a coffee addict and 17 hours is a long time with no Mojo for me. It is also the only solution that doesnt upset my stomach. I used it during CDA 09 and it was amazing. No bonk the entire day.
I've been searching to the perfect drink for a while. I switched to Infinit a couple of months ago because everyone was raving about it the guys who run it seem to be ok. I really like the taste much better than anything I've tried before - even at full strength (I'm used to watering other products down to cut the sweet taste). I just answered the questions (which are pretty basic) on the website to get my "formula". So far, so good.
I also like the ability to customize it and I like the taste. I make a concentrated bottle for the bike and then switch to gels for the run, mainly for variety. The discount is nice too.
I use the same formula for all races from Olympic distance to IM.
For the run, I'll use whatever is on the course because I don't like to carry anything. The key is to train with that drink first. I bought some PowerBar Ironman Perform to get used to it. It doesn't taste great but so far my body is okay with it.
I was able to up the sodium level and that freed me from carrying salty tabs at races. One less thing to deal with on race day. And I really can't taste the extra sodium.
As noted, if you call them they can help you get it dialed in. And I use Infinit on the bike for 70.3 and 140.6 events.
For those of us that get nauseated with strong flavors, or don't tolerate certain mixes, whatever- then Infinit has been heavenly.
I have a "weak" stomach and could NOT stomach Gatorade. I purchased the IM Perform and used it for run training. Luckily it worked for me, but only watered down.
So for IMWI, I used Infinit on the bike, then on course nutrition for the run, I also hate to carry anything. I also figured out ahead of time that the Lemon-Lime favor tasted awful, Mango Orange was OK, and fruit punch was best - again this was what worked for me, and I spent the time BEFORE the race- to nail my nutrition plan.
Chuck:
Yes to the 3x and two bottles. And you will need to calculate the calories of your particular blend and figure that out. If your blend is 256 calories for two scoops then 256 x 3 = 768 for one bottle. So you would drink 1/3 bottle per hour (I put a black sharpie line around my bottle at 1/3 marks so I can see where I am at). You will need to adjust this if you are also planning on eating a gel (150 calories) or anything else each hour. It really is simple math.
One note, a 3x bottle is really strong and it isn't water. So learn to "sip" and not chug the bottle. First time I trained with a 3x bottle I chugged and ended up with GI issues.
I also like to chase my 'sip" with some water. That way I am getting the fluids and calories in at the same time. No guess work.
Hope this helps.
John
@Chuck - I second what folks have already said... and agree that marking a bottle if you're going concentrated is key- otherwise one hour you'll have too much, another maybe not enough... that's actually why I put water in my speedfill and keep the infinit in a bottle - so I can monitor my progress and keep track...
To be sure I get in what I need in the right timeframe, I set my watch to beep at me every 15 minutes to remind me to drink (first a sip or two of infinit - then the water chaser)... Usually I can get through my third of the bottle drinking every 15". But this is a personal preference thing, maybe you want to take smaller sips and drink more often... whatever.... as long as after an hour you've hit the first black line and are working on the second.
As other folks have said, the water chaser is KEY! And, potentialy drinking more water more often as needed. If you're taking additional sodium (i.e., an S!cap or endurolyte cap) you must be sure to drink even more water! Kitima commented on my first IM RR report with all sorts of super useful information in this regard ... you might want to take a look: http://endurancenation.us.dnnmax.co...fault.aspx
If you choose to do this, you MUST practice it during your RR. That way you will learn if you can manage it. As others have said drinking enough water with each swig of concentrated drink is essential to avoid the dreaded GI distress.
I was skeptical of this type of fueling, but it worked like a charm for me during the Paris Marathon in April.
On the questyion of two formulas I don't adjust based on the distance of the race, but I do have one formula for bike and one for run. I can handle more protein on the bike than on the run. The protein helps with hunger on longer distance biking for me. I don't mess with the sodium in my formula because I tend to adjust electrolyte balance based on the temps.